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2007 Formula One Thread

but that's what they tend to do behind a safety car...move around from side to side, accelerate and then brake hard...to try to retain some heat in the tyres.
 
I cannot believe FIA simply erases his points, that's not going to happen. More likely penalty would be giving him the 25 second time penalty, which would mean Hamilton dropping from P1 to P4, giving Kovalainen his maiden victory, Kimi P2 and DC P3.

That would also make championship battle more interesting, because Hamilton would be at 102, Alonso 7 points behind and Kimi 10 points behind.
 
JFreak said:
I cannot believe FIA simply erases his points, that's not going to happen. More likely penalty would be giving him the 25 second time penalty, which would mean Hamilton dropping from P1 to P4, giving Kovalainen his maiden victory, Kimi P2 and DC P3.

That would also make championship battle more interesting, because Hamilton would be at 102, Alonso 7 points behind and Kimi 10 points behind.
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I can't remember the FIA using time penalties. They usually use punishments for the next race or dock the points. I can see him being given a 10 spot grid penalty for the weekend.
 
JFreak said:
I cannot believe FIA simply erases his points, that's not going to happen. More likely penalty would be giving him the 25 second time penalty, which would mean Hamilton dropping from P1 to P4, giving Kovalainen his maiden victory, Kimi P2 and DC P3.

That would also make championship battle more interesting, because Hamilton would be at 102, Alonso 7 points behind and Kimi 10 points behind.
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I'd say more likely would be a 10 place penalty for the start of the Chinese race.

I guess we'll see.
 
I am glad they sorted that one out. And to remove Vettels 10 place drop is the right thing to do too. Don't they think that he suffered enough being denied a podium and probably getting a rocket up his back-side too?

At the moment they appear to be giving out penalties like they are going out of fashion. Just let them race. Has anyone ever heard of a 'racing incident'?
 
emotion said:
Cleared. Common sense prevails.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7029797.stm
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Thats good but the last part of the article is rather confusing

And BBC 5live commentator David Croft, who is in Shanghai for this weekend's race, had questioned the accuracy of reports that an investigation into Hamilton's driving was ongoing.

He said: "We're now being told it's not really an investigation but that the three drivers have been called in to see the stewards.

"It's where the story of the investigation are being spun from. We've never been categorically told by the stewards that they are investigating what happened.

"Lewis should be completely in the clear but why was that story put around that there would be an investigation?

"Is that trying to destabilise a man that has come here to win a world title?"
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Seems like it wasn't even an investigation and has been made into something it wasn't by the media(?)
 
It seems that Hamilton slowed pretty drastically, but it also seems that Vettel was at fault for hitting Webber...

I think we should call the engraver on Hamilton's championship. But I have to say that after the events of this season all of McLaren seems tainted to me. Alonso is a primadonna ******, the team is populated with cheaters and Hamilton seems a bit of a brat. Granted, the media storm that constantly surrounds Hamilton makes it hard to tell what is real and what is fabricated by the press.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
It seems that Hamilton slowed pretty drastically, but it also seems that Vettel was at fault for hitting Webber...

I think we should call the engraver on Hamilton's championship. But I have to say that after the events of this season all of McLaren seems tainted to me. Alonso is a primadonna ******, the team is populated with cheaters and Hamilton seems a bit of a brat. Granted, the media storm that constantly surrounds Hamilton makes it hard to tell what is real and what is fabricated by the press.
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i think mclaren are by nature an honourable organisation. i don't think hamilton is a prat at all. i am amazed by his composure and skill in his first year. i do agree with you that alonso is a primadonna. as far as i can see (from having the transcripts of the world council hearing) the cheaters are alonso, de la rosa (who didn't seem to even realise he was doing anything wrong) and mccoughlin. between the three of them they have cost mclaren $100 million dollars, the constructor's championship, travel benefits, and their nice pit allocation for next year. alonso is incredible. he obtains confidential information from mccoughlin and de la rosa, threatens his boss with telling the FIA that he has been cheating (unless he is given preferential treatment over someone who is beating him), when he doesn't get what he wants he sends the evidence of his own cheating to bernie ecclestone (who passed it to the FIA) so that his cheating gets the whole team in trouble, and then refuses to turn up to the hearing into his own cheating. out of all this, he emerges scott free (for which the world council must take responsibility).

another prat in this is luca de montezemola who is, without any supporting evidence, quite deliberately saying that if hamilton wins it is thanks to ferrari since, he claims, there is a lot of ferrari in the mclaren.
 
sananda said:
i think mclaren are by nature an honourable organisation.
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McLaren is a very arrogant organisation. I know a few people who left them because they where told to walk around like winners, behave like they had won. If you see another team in the airport (which the often do for fly-away races) make sure you are first on the plane and first off. If necessary 'barge' your-way to the front. Not many people like that attitude and it didn't go down too well when they where not very successful a few years ago.
 
You can say what you want about Hamilton but that lap was amazing! To come from 4th and finish so far ahead of Alonso was brilliant. Hopefully his car is set-up for the wet tomorrow.
 
R.Youden said:
You can say what you want about Hamilton but that lap was amazing! To come from 4th and finish so far ahead of Alonso was brilliant. Hopefully his car is set-up for the wet tomorrow.
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Maybe he's hoping for a safety car tomorrow:D
 
R.Youden said:
How will the sport get on without Schumacher? Will Hamilton be able to cope with Alonso? Will Kimi finally get a car capable of finishing every race? Will Massa have a chance of the title? Can Button build on the second half of last year?

My predictions for the championship:

1. Raikkonen
2. Alonso
3. Button
4. Massa
5. Barrichello
6. Hamilton

I really don't see Renault being at the races this year. I am sure Kovalainen will prove to be a good long term replacement for Alonso, but not next year. I think Honda will push on (I am bound to say that arn't I!) and Barrichello will be more able to put pressure on Button which will only benefit the team and hopefully they will grab the odd win. Hamilton will do OK but I fear that the McLaren will do its usual firework displays! I think that Ferrari will just have the edge over everyone else and they will have a very reliable car that is just that little bit quicker.

What does everyone else think
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Hey guys, I opened this thread just now and it came up with the first posts. Makes for interesting reference today! Hopefully Hamilton can continue this excellent weekend for English sport... :D
 
AlBDamned said:
Hey guys, I opened this thread just now and it came up with the first posts. Makes for interesting reference today! Hopefully Hamilton can continue this excellent weekend for English sport... :D
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Well I was speaking utter rubbish wasn't I!

I mean if you take Honda out of the equation then it wasn't far off. I was right about Renault not being in contention! Ah well. I will go back and watch the race now on the horrific coverage from ITV. Why do they have to have good luck messages from the England Rugby Team? What a load of rubbish.
 
robbieduncan said:
I don't know: I'm stuck without any live TV coverage here in Oz. I'm reduced to the live timing on the F1 site :(

The text commentary made it sound like a driver error partially caused by a worn tyre?
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More team error for not calling him in several laps earlier.
 
robbieduncan said:
I don't know: I'm stuck without any live TV coverage here in Oz. I'm reduced to the live timing on the F1 site :(

The text commentary made it sound like a driver error partially caused by a worn tyre?
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His tired were totally shot, as in had holes in them. Came into the pits where it was still wet, turned the corner, car didn't turn, ended up in the gravel and was stuck
 
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