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I am sure you have all heard about Williams saying that they will go to court over teams like Super Aguri and Toro Rosso. They have now turned around and said that they helped develop the Toyota gearbox for 2007.

Come on Frank, play the game! I have worked with the head of trans-mechanical at Williams and he certainly had a reputation so Toyota must be desperate.

I didn't think that was all that unusual though in a manufacturer and customer relationship.
 
I didn't think that was all that unusual though in a manufacturer and customer relationship.

I know it isnt unusual. The problem is that a gearbox is one of the most complex parts of the car so where does it stop.

Making a gearbox and engine together to designing a whole chassis. Its a fine line but where does it stop? I think Williams need to look at what they are doing here.
 
Wow my first stumble into off-topic and I see an F-1 thread. This forum is great! I think Ferrari should do pretty well assuming Kimi has a good showing this year. I have to pull for BMW-Sauber though. Kubica and Vettle (test driver) showed some major talent last year. Kubica seems to have what it takes to win and lead his team to a championship.
 
Making a gearbox and engine together to designing a whole chassis. Its a fine line but where does it stop? I think Williams need to look at what they are doing here.

But the engine and gearbox has always been an area where manufacturers and customers collaborate, and share data to jointly develop and improve the performance and technology of the engine and/or gearbox if the manufacturer has supplied that too.

This is nothing new and is implicitly outside of the 'Constructor' remit. I'm not sure if it's possible, or fair even to compare what Super Aguri and Toro Rosso are doing in comparison.

I don't see what Williams (and Toyota) are doing is hypocritical, nor against the rules as I understand them.
 
JV will be JV... I think Webber needs to shut it more.

I like some of what he says, but other times not so much. He needs to make an impact this year - it would not do to be overshadowed by DC.

Scott Speed has been retained by Toro Rosso. That's great...now beat Liuzzi! I want to see American drivers in F1, but if they aren't competitive it's a waste of a seat. I predict he'll be slow again and will be gone in '08 (maybe earlier), though I hope I'm wrong.
 
The new 2007 Honda livery:

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Just before I left Honda someone mentioned that the new livery would be like this. I thought they where joking! This looks terrible, I wont stand out at all. I hope there is more contrast to the colours that this. That will be one big sticker over the car which will be very hard to make it look good. Also that URL doesn't exist on the rear wing. Again it highlights the inability of the Honda PR department to get a good sponsor. While I was there they got the bloke in who was PR man for the Spice Girls and David Beckham, taht worked well then!
 
Nice paint job, but goofy for an F1 car...you won't see the bearded hippies that frighten Jeremy Clarkson flocking around this car just because they painted an "Earth dream" on it....:rolleyes:

Maybe the new Honda driving suit will be a Jesus-like toga with sandals.
 
They have been quick with the URL then. Looks like it is genuine if they have a launch date of Tuesday and the car is launched tomorrow. I like how on the map Japan is on the engine cover.

Honda are really struggling to get grip with the rear tyres and they have remove the little wing-lets at the chimneys. Also they have been running so far with last years suspension with the new version being introduced at Bahrain test this week and they have been more competative. The next test is a big one for all teams.

In three weeks time we will see how all the hard work has got on.
 
Well this is the launch. It looks, erm. interesting:

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Now remind me, which ones are the drivers?
 
Via the website myearthdream.com, anyone who wishes, will have the opportunity to have their name on the car, make a pledge to make a lifestyle change to improve the environment and make a donation to an environmental charity. Under the concept of "our car is your car", each name will form a tiny individual pixel which will help build the image of planet earth on the car. Each name will be visible on the website when you make the pledge or under a microscope on the car.

Okay. :rolleyes: :p

Honda definitely don't do irony do they. :p

Linky
 
Having your name on the car is really good idea. I think a LeMans team used to do that, can't remember the name off the top of my head.

Everyone that works for Honda used to have their name on the inside of the rear-wing end plate which was good. It doesn't look like they are doing that agin this year. Maybe I can try and get my name on the car again as an ex-employee (do you think they would give me a discount?)
 
True!

What I hope the do is like a promotional pack. Say £20 with a certain percentage going to charity. With that you get a small name / logo on the car and a little booklet with a photo of your name / logo on the car.

Remember that website where a guy sold 1 million pixels to make a million dollars, something like that.
 
True!

What I hope the do is like a promotional pack. Say £20 with a certain percentage going to charity. With that you get a small name / logo on the car and a little booklet with a photo of your name / logo on the car.

Remember that website where a guy sold 1 million pixels to make a million dollars, something like that.

I have to be honest, I'm usually completely cynical of anything to do with Honda, but I really do actually like this concept... it's certainly original, and to a degree brave considering F1's reputation.

I can't help but feel that it's a couple of years ahead of it's time though, that would be more suitable once F1 begins to develop and use more environmentally friendly technology.

But yeah... I'd buy a £20 promo pack.
 
I love the launch photo...Rubens and Jense each have a Mini-Me!

This looks interesting, but nobody will care if Honda isn't competitive...
 
The young drivers are at it again:

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I hope this picture still works, I keep getting problems linking from Autosport!
 

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FIA postpones heat recovery plans

Autosport said:
or 2011, the FIA hopes that a new four-race engine will include high-efficiency turbo charging, fuel flow limits, direct injection and the use of bio fuels.

:cool: :cool: :cool:

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The FIA is also considering completely freeing up driver aids.

I wonder if this means we'll be seeing a return to the all singing, all dancing über cars of the early 1990's?
 
I wonder if this means we'll be seeing a return to the all singing, all dancing über cars of the early 1990's?

I like many of the new ideas, but I'm not a fan of driver aids. I think they suck, to be blunt. You pay the top drivers in the world mad cash to do what? Engage the "launch control" button and then mash their foot down? I can do that!
 
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