I have a prediction.
I predict that this thread, started by MultiMedia on 4-4-07, will reach 1,000 posts before we see a Mac Pro update.
I can hardly see how that would be surprising. Why not raise the stakes to something more amusing, like 1,500?
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I can hardly see how that would be surprising. Why not raise the stakes to something more amusing, like 1,500?
Its just so weird to go this long and not even hear about a rumor of an update. I mean the last time the Pro was updated, Pluto was still a planet.
Where oh where is the Mac Pro
My G5 is starting to get old and the noises seem to increase daily.
My G5 is starting to get old and the noises seem to increase daily.
What I get from that is the Mac Pro is not coming out in the immediate future.
Not quite true (8/7, 8/24) but close enough for government work
Not quite true (8/7, 8/24) but close enough for government work
I hate it when people here just blindly defend Pluto.
Sometimes there are signals about updates. Remember in March when Apple UK leaked the 8-core by mistake. Also, the Santa Rosa Intel MBP update was very predictable. The new iMac keyboard (but not the iMac itself) was also leaked. I thought the late July Intel Xeon price cuts to compete with AMD Barcelona could have been another signal but I guess not.
I have a prediction.
I predict that this thread, started by MultiMedia on 4-4-07, will reach 1,000 posts before we see a Mac Pro update.
I predict 2000 posts. Closer we get to Hapertown release, more ppl will speculate and when we reach the release and Apple still does nothing then we will complain here so 2000 is reasonable.
I'll match your 2000, and raise you 500
No, in October Apple will launch a mini-tower with the "Yorkfield" quad Penryn on an X38 "Bearlake" chipset - and make a fine small expandable desktop.
The case will be chrome and black glossy plexi and enamel, to match the new Iphone-styled LCD displays (20" and 24" with LED backlighting).
The Mac Pro won't be updated - so to add insult to the injury, it will be the only computer in the lineup to have that brushed aluminum finish that was so popular back when Pluto was a planet.
Here, there will be wailing about neglecting the "creative core", and posts will hit 2500 within a week of the mini-tower announcement.
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Prepares+X38+Express+Launch/article8467.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/dailytech+digest+intels+penryn/article7277.htm
I predict 2000 posts. Closer we get to Hapertown release, more ppl will speculate and when we reach the release and Apple still does nothing then we will complain here so 2000 is reasonable.
No, in October Apple will launch a mini-tower with the "Yorkfield" quad Penryn on an X38 "Bearlake" chipset - and make a fine small expandable desktop.
The case will be chrome and black glossy plexi and enamel, to match the new Iphone-styled LCD displays (20" and 24" with LED backlighting).
The Mac Pro won't be updated - so to add insult to the injury, it will be the only computer in the lineup to have that brushed aluminum finish that was so popular back when Pluto was a planet.
Here, there will be wailing about neglecting the "creative core", and posts will hit 2500 within a week of the mini-tower announcement.
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Prepares+X38+Express+Launch/article8467.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/dailytech+digest+intels+penryn/article7277.htm
I thought the July price cuts was the first good news because it told me what the Harpertown prices are going to be.
It also showed that the Harpertown processors will be priced just about the same as the current Woodcrest and Clovertown processors of the Mac Pro.
I thought the best piece of news came on August 14th when Intel announced a Harpertown release date of November 11th.
And more good news came on August 24th when it was announced that 1600MHz FSD Harpertown processors would also be released sometime this year.
It looks to me like one plus one equals November.
Sunday November 11 Harpertown Release Day Sunday? Weird
Thanks Topper. I overlooked the November 11 Harpertown release date announcement. Sunday seems like a weird day for a new generation of processors to hit the street.
Thanks Topper. I overlooked the November 11 Harpertown release date announcement. Sunday seems like a weird day for a new generation of processors to hit the street.
Skull Trail is coming.
I was speaking to a bloke over on the seti forums, he's part of the intel development team.
He said on the 18th there is going to be some big announcements around Skull Trail boards etc.
Tried to get him to lets slip about any possible Mac Pro stuff, but he said his NDA would cause him to e fed to the fish's
I was speaking to a bloke over on the seti forums, he's part of the intel development team.
He said on the 18th there is going to be some big announcements around Skull Trail boards etc.
Tried to get him to lets slip about any possible Mac Pro stuff, but he said his NDA would cause him to e fed to the fish's
Skull Trail has absolutely nothing to do with the Mac Pro.
It's their high-end DDR3 gaming platform, with marketing names like V8 (Two Quad-core processors) and four PCI-Express slots amongst other things. Although the Skull Trail board in itself does have support for FB-DIMM.
I wasn't aware that Stoakley is part of the X38 chipset, which Skull Trail is based upon, but I have been known to be wrong.
But by all means if this guy of yours has more information, please share
Pressure, i've tried for months to get some info out of him.
If you find some of the pictures of when Intel showed of the V8, he's the bloke in the blue shirt. He's already tried them on Seti, and reckons they will blow AMD out of the water. I know as he works for Intel, he;s bound to hype the up, but I think he may be on to something.
As Paris comes a week after the Intel conference, we may well see some announcement on the update we all waiting for.
If you find some of the pictures of when Intel showed of the V8, he's the bloke in the blue shirt. He's already tried them on Seti, and reckons they will blow AMD out of the water. I know as he works for Intel, he;s bound to hype the up, but I think he may be on to something.
As Paris comes a week after the Intel conference, we may well see some announcement on the update we all waiting for.
Yea, but, would Apple screw us and have the expo just be on the stupid iPhone (International) for the 5th time? Or would they want to show off something cooler? Like the MacPro? Is this going to be an actual Keynote too? You would think Apple would not want to dodge a big announcement like that from Intel and say, "Hey, the prices dropped, but we aren't gonna update the Macpro."
Many stories say that Skull Trail is X38, but this recent one differs:
This is just the beginning, though. Intel's "Skulltrail" high-end dual socket media & gaming platform will use this same Xeon, just in an unlocked Extreme version, and the same Seaburg chipset, but in an optimised lower latency, higher bandwidth configuration with selected FB-DIMMs running upward of DDR2-1000 speed and lower latency like CL4.
The board has FOUR PCI-E x16 GPU slots and, of course, strong power/VRM config with overclockable Dual FSB config on top of the unlocked multipliers. All the chipset and VRM heat sinks are easy to replace for optional water block/freeze block cooling.
Knowing the 4++ GHz air cooling overclock headroom on these 45 nm parts, and even higher liquid or cryo cooling potential, and coupled with fast FSB & memory - I thought "Fast FB-DIMM" was an oxymoron - we could be in for some record results when the monster E-ATX board shows up in the market in the next few months.
After all, an extra 20 - 30% speed boost on CPU, and additional 30+ memory throughput due to optimised FSB latency coupled with both higher bandwidth and lower latency by those upcoming FB-DIMMs, should give a very decent application performance increase, not to mention ability to feed, say, four Nvidia G92 GPUs simultaneously?
One of these records will surely be the above mentioned Linpack - Dual water-cooled 4+ GHz Extreme Harpertown Xeons on a Skulltrail board will be the first ever dual-socket PC / workstation / server to break the 100 GFLOPs net - Rmax - Linpack performance barrier.
Now, just think what wonders will that machine do for gaming physics or, as our Theo reported from Leipzig, real time ray tracing.
The board has FOUR PCI-E x16 GPU slots and, of course, strong power/VRM config with overclockable Dual FSB config on top of the unlocked multipliers. All the chipset and VRM heat sinks are easy to replace for optional water block/freeze block cooling.
Knowing the 4++ GHz air cooling overclock headroom on these 45 nm parts, and even higher liquid or cryo cooling potential, and coupled with fast FSB & memory - I thought "Fast FB-DIMM" was an oxymoron - we could be in for some record results when the monster E-ATX board shows up in the market in the next few months.
After all, an extra 20 - 30% speed boost on CPU, and additional 30+ memory throughput due to optimised FSB latency coupled with both higher bandwidth and lower latency by those upcoming FB-DIMMs, should give a very decent application performance increase, not to mention ability to feed, say, four Nvidia G92 GPUs simultaneously?
One of these records will surely be the above mentioned Linpack - Dual water-cooled 4+ GHz Extreme Harpertown Xeons on a Skulltrail board will be the first ever dual-socket PC / workstation / server to break the 100 GFLOPs net - Rmax - Linpack performance barrier.
Now, just think what wonders will that machine do for gaming physics or, as our Theo reported from Leipzig, real time ray tracing.
http://www.intelligible.com/default.aspx?article=41868
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But, Apple will more likely announce new colors for an Ipod, rather than a new computer system
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I think the Skulltrail systems are designed to support heavy overclocking, so he may not be hyping it up that much.
Which only shows that perhaps they are good at Seti....
Single application benchmarks are not that useful, unless that's the only application that you run.
In particular, a tight compute loop like Seti is prone to show cache size effects - a slightly faster CPU with a larger cache might be *much* faster, but mainly due to the cache size increase.
Larger programs (or programs that process more data) won't get as much help from the larger cache.
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