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2007 Harpertown Stoakley-Seaburg Motherboard With New Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

Are You Waiting For A Stoakley-Seaburg and 2007 Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

  • No. I bought the FrankenMac

    Votes: 30 7.1%

  • Yes I Will Wait 'Til Apple Gets It Right

    Votes: 246 58.0%

  • Not sure. Waiting for benchmarks on the 4.4.07 model.

    Votes: 27 6.4%

  • I'll stick with 4 cores, thank you very much.

    Votes: 121 28.5%
  • Total voters
    424
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What kind of speed up is anticipated with new chips?

I'm curious how the new quad 3.0 ghz chips will compare with the current generation ones. Will this be an increase in speed on the order of 10% or more? And won't much of the speed up depend on using faster memory which will be very expensive, at least initially?

For pros doing rendering and video the extra cores and speed under Leopard may prove cost-effective, but I wonder if the speedup will be noticeable for photographers using Photoshop CS3, Lightroom, and Aperture? I wonder how much prep Adobe has done for multicore support in Leopard? I know Adobe has warned about possible issues with Leopard compatibility.

Any thoughts on the matter?
 
12 MB L2 Cache Per Quad Core Is 150% More Than The Current Cache

So instead of 2 MB per core it's 3 MB per core which should show up in lots of faster ways.
Eidorian said:
That's 3 MB per core on Penryn. Then again it is shared across each dual core.
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Yes it's 12MB Per Quad Core Processor or 3 per core instead of 2 in Clovertown. Do each pair of cores share 6MB L2 cache? :confused:

Anyway it will be a lot faster due to many things including the brains on the board - Stoakley-Seaburg. I bought a previously owned 2.66 Mac Pro in August and I can tell you that while it's significantly faster than this Quad G5 - twice as fast Handbrake encoding - which I am using a lot also, there will be no substitute for 8 cores no matter how fast 4 go. Simply running two instances of Handbrake 0.9.0 simultaneously hoses a Mac Pro since Handbrake is already fully multithreaded and will use all 4 cores if left alone to work one instance at a time. So the idea that 8 cores will not be mainstream sooner than later I think is a flawed one. You don't have to do anything special to hose any 4 core Mac. It is easily done in any number of ways.

I'd like to know if any first gen 8 core owners here can report Handbrake's use of all 8 cores when run alone?
 
Cache will become a lot less important when the new Nehalem Architecture comes out with the integrated memory controller.

This explains why current Intel chips have so much more cache than their AMD counterparts.

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Photoshop Work Will Be Allowed To Proceed While Crushing Video Simultaneously

areve said:
You do: video or audio. With photos, it is much more difficult. There is an intereting post about Photoshop and Multicore on John Nack's blog about it. It's worth reading.
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I am compromising the speed of two Toast DVD Image encodes on my Quad Mac Pro by running them simultaneously while I have a Handbrake encode waiting idly for them to complete so it can use all 4 cores. I don't think that's anything special do you? Photoshop work could proceed while doing all three speed compromised processes in an 8 core but that work would be better relegated to a second Mac Pro for Photoshop so the 8 core could continue crushing video as fast as possible.
 
Multimedia said:
I am compromising the speed of two Toast DVD Image encodes on my Quad Mac Pro by running them simultaneously while I have a Handbrake encode waiting idly for them to complete so it can use all 4 cores. I don't think that's anything special do you? Photoshop work could proceed while doing all three speed compromised processes in an 8 core but that work would be better relegated to a second Mac Pro for Photoshop so the 8 core could continue crushing video as fast as possible.
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Multi, you broke down and bout a Quad Mac Pro? 2.66? I thought you were waiting for Penryn/Stoakley? :eek:
 
Still Need The New 8 Core ASAP

netdog said:
Multi, you broke down and bout a Quad Mac Pro? 2.66? I thought you were waiting for Penryn/Stoakley? :eek:
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Previously owned super deal.
Spikeanator6982 said:
he bought a used one for a GREAT price.
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Seller bought it new empty June 15. I bought it from him August 15 loaded with 5GB ram, 10k 139GB Raptor, two 500GB WDs, the 250GB WD it came with + 23" ACD HD + iLife '08 for $2727 delivered. It was an offer I couldn't refuse. Found it right here at MacRumors.
darthraige said:
That and he will buy the new one when it comes out. When you do the work we do, it all pays off in the end. :D
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Definitely buying the HSS when it ships. Joining ADC for $500 this month to get maximum ADC discount + Leopard.
 
MM, is the discount any better for full ADC members compared to the student membership?

Also, I have been looking at Skulltrail, and I think that would be a much better option for the next Mac Pro. I know some of you have mentioned it before, but it looks really good.
 
I can't find any prices for the UK. It seems you have to call them. If anybody knows what the UK student ADC prices is for a 2.66 Mac Pro, I'd appreciate it.
 
Since this is the most popular thread, question for anyone who can answer...

With the MacPro having Dual Ethernet ports, can the second one be used as an "out" source? For instance, when I go from my modem to the router and the router to my Mac now, and the router being a linksys, I sometimes lose connection. I only use the router for the wireless part. So if I were to go Modem to MacPro, could I take the second Ethernet port from MacPro and go to Router?
 
darthraige said:
Since this is the most popular thread, question for anyone who can answer...

With the MacPro having Dual Ethernet ports, can the second one be used as an "out" source? For instance, when I go from my modem to the router and the router to my Mac now, and the router being a linksys, I sometimes lose connection. I only use the router for the wireless part. So if I were to go Modem to MacPro, could I take the second Ethernet port from MacPro and go to Router?
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Yeah you would essentially be internet sharing on that port, the router would catch an IP from the Mac and then DHCP out to the clients. If the Mac Pro is off, I don't think you would get internet on anything else. Other than that, it should work just fine.
 
suneohair said:
Yeah you would essentially be internet sharing on that port, the router would catch an IP from the Mac and then DHCP out to the clients. If the Mac Pro is off, I don't think you would get internet on anything else. Other than that, it should work just fine.
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Would the speed be about the same or would it split the signal and run twice as slow on both ends?
 
darthraige said:
Can not wait to upgrade this piece of crap G4. This thing has done its time. Time to take it out back. :cool:
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Your G4 probably has more power than your router too. ;)

I really really hope they release a Mac Pro update with Leopard this month! I can't believe I've held out this long, If I'd known in advance I would have bought a quad 2.66 back in July...

I think I'd be mad to have waited so long but to buy now. :confused:
 
MM started this thread April 4th. I've been waiting since about January. I really really REALLY hope Apple doesn't screw up the graphics card options on the new Mac Pro. But it wouldn't surprise me, given their track record in that department. :rolleyes:
 
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