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2007 Harpertown Stoakley-Seaburg Motherboard With New Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

Are You Waiting For A Stoakley-Seaburg and 2007 Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

  • No. I bought the FrankenMac

    Votes: 30 7.1%

  • Yes I Will Wait 'Til Apple Gets It Right

    Votes: 246 58.0%

  • Not sure. Waiting for benchmarks on the 4.4.07 model.

    Votes: 27 6.4%

  • I'll stick with 4 cores, thank you very much.

    Votes: 121 28.5%
  • Total voters
    424
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etrigan63 said:
The ATI/AMD HD 3800 series are very good performers for the price. They also sport onboard HD (Blu-ray & HD-DVD) decoding with support for 1080p on 30" dual link displays (2560x1600). I have tested this on the PC side. This includes HDMI support with in-band sound.

The 8800GT (nv92) based cards have slightly faster 3D performance and have overcome the 7-series limitation of HD over dual link displays.

Both support DirectX10.1 but that is pointless on the Mac. One can hope that the Mac Pro rev will allow for Crossfire or SLI to increase performance. HP has shown that a single system can support both technologies (see their Blackbird 002 gaming system). Also, Diamond Multimedia demonstrated Crossfire cards running on SLI mainboards by using a driver virtualization technique. There is a sight (5%) performance penalty for this configuration, but it does allow for ATI cards to be used in performance configurations on SLI systems.
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And in GPGPU applications the ATI cards are faster.
 
I'm going to make this new system last me all the way to Nehalem! (then its hello craigslist just like my last mac pro)
 
DirectX 10.1 Not Pointless on the Mac

I am waiting to see what the architecture/configuration looks like on these new Mac Pros. If it's as good as I think it will be, I will build a dual-boot Leopard/Vista gaming machine. The only gaming company that seems to be supporting OS X with serious titles is id, which is great. But gaming is spreading out beyond the dominance of id and Epic now. I want to run Crysis, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, etc. in my Vista partition, and run them at good visual quality and frame rates with maximum DirectX goodness! :cool:

When I find time to do some actual revenue-generating work, I want OS X with CS3! :rolleyes:

etrigan63 said:
The ATI/AMD HD 3800 series are very good performers for the price. They also sport onboard HD (Blu-ray & HD-DVD) decoding with support for 1080p on 30" dual link displays (2560x1600). I have tested this on the PC side. This includes HDMI support with in-band sound.

The 8800GT (nv92) based cards have slightly faster 3D performance and have overcome the 7-series limitation of HD over dual link displays.

Both support DirectX10.1 but that is pointless on the Mac. One can hope that the Mac Pro rev will allow for Crossfire or SLI to increase performance. HP has shown that a single system can support both technologies (see their Blackbird 002 gaming system). Also, Diamond Multimedia demonstrated Crossfire cards running on SLI mainboards by using a driver virtualization technique. There is a sight (5%) performance penalty for this configuration, but it does allow for ATI cards to be used in performance configurations on SLI systems.
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Hello out here / Waiting for new Mac Pro

My first post to the forum and I'm also waiting, or hoping I should say, that there will be a revised Mac Pro coming out soon.

I'm in the market for a new machine and have always been a PC person. The MAC OS has me totally sold. I love it. How-ever the current Pro is definetly lacking regard power and graphics card availability as compared to the PC world.

If the new Mac Pro addresses these issues, my decision will definitely be the Pro over a new PC!!!

Fingers crossed.
 
rmrc51 said:
My first post to the forum and I'm also waiting, or hoping I should say, that there will be a revised Mac Pro coming out soon.

I'm in the market for a new machine and have always been a PC person. The MAC OS has me totally sold. I love it. How-ever the current Pro is definetly lacking regard power and graphics card availability as compared to the PC world.

If the new Mac Pro addresses these issues, my decision will definitely be the Pro over a new PC!!!

Fingers crossed.
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I think the joker in the Mac pack of cards is that you might see a few different cards, but you won't have very many choices. So if you are looking for choice, then I think you are going to be disappointed.
 
Setmose said:
I am waiting to see what the architecture/configuration looks like on these new Mac Pros. If it's as good as I think it will be, I will build a dual-boot Leopard/Vista gaming machine. I want to run Crysis, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, etc. in my Vista partition, and run them at good visual quality and frame rates with maximum DirectX goodness!
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Let's hope Apple provides a video card good enough to run those games with high rendering.
I am guessing that the bto consumer video card will be nVidia's 8800 GT 512MB. Is that okay?
It may be the HD3870 which isn't near as powerful.

Roy said:
I think the joker in the Mac pack of cards is that you might see a few different cards, but you won't have very many choices. So if you are looking for choice, then I think you are going to be disappointed.
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I most definitely agree.
I think the best we can hope for is the 8800 GT 512MB card.
The really high-end nVidia and ATI video cards won't be out before the new Mac Pro is launched.

I am thinking about those G92 and RV670 kext files in 10.5.2.
Wouldn't it be something if Apple were to actually offer 5 or more video cards for the new Mac Pro.
I know it is extremely unlikely.
 
Roy said:
I think the joker in the Mac pack of cards is that you might see a few different cards, but you won't have very many choices. So if you are looking for choice, then I think you are going to be disappointed.
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I think a lot of us wouldn't mind a lack of choices as long as at least one of the choices wasn't a card so old that it's no longer even manufactured for the PC world.
 
Topper said:
I am thinking about those G92 and RV670 kext files in 10.5.2. Wouldn't it be something if Apple were to actually offer 5 or more video cards for the new Mac Pro.
I know it is extremely unlikely.
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Topper, you and I both share the same concern, as well as many others who have come and gone in this thread. Apple screwing up the video cards... Of course it's a real possibility. Look what they did to the poor iMac.

Anyhow, the G92 kexts in 10.5.2 are certainly a pleasant surprise. I would be more than happy with an 8800GT in the Mac Pro. It's a proven performer and runs a bit cooler than its big brothers (GTX, Ultra). Is the 8600GT in the G92 family? That would be disappointing if that was the card for the kexts.

I am also concerned about how Apple is going to structure the BTO options, namely, processors. I am hoping to see 1600 FSB across the board, but knowing Apple they'll probably offer only the most expensive processors at that FSB, and leave the rest at 1333. The E5470 (I think) Penryn Xeon at 2.8 GHz has a 1600 FSB and a low TDP. I'd like to see that processor as an option.

If, in the unlikely event that Apple disappoints people with either a lackluster upgrade or no upgrade at all at MWSF, the G92 kexts will serve to help those who would take the hackintosh route and build exactly what they want, if those persons were so inclined.
 
Wild-Bill said:
Is the 8600GT in the G92 family? That would be disappointing if that was the card for the kexts.
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Good news is it is not. It is a 80nm G84 card.

I am also concerned about how Apple is going to structure the BTO options, namely, processors. I am hoping to see 1600 FSB across the board, but knowing Apple they'll probably offer only the most expensive processors at that FSB, and leave the rest at 1333. The E5470 (I think) Penryn Xeon at 2.8 GHz has a 1600 FSB and a low TDP. I'd like to see that processor as an option.
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I'm not too worried about it. I'll just take what's best for me at the right price.

If, in the unlikely event that Apple disappoints people with either a lackluster upgrade or no upgrade at all at MWSF, the G92 kexts will serve to help those who would take the hackintosh route and build exactly what they want, if those persons were so inclined.
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That would be kind of funny in an ironic way...Apple helps people switch to PCs.
 
Still down.

Hopefully this is more than just the usual. I really want new MacPro Socks, woohoo!.

Knowing apple it'll just be for maintainance, or they are getting everything ready for next week a little bit early.
 
Guys, you probably know more than me. Has Apple ever done maintenance on all Apple store pages before? It's been over an hour and the store is still down. I checked other countries and they are down too. Could that mean update of something? It's tuesday after all.
 
Race you

Netdog, i'll give you a race to see who can order their new mac pro first!
 
New iPod socks it is then

Has to be new iPod Nano socks it is, woohoo, somethibg else I will never want.

Hopefully this will be the update many of us have been waiting for. I'm praying for the 2.83DualQuad to be the recommended config. I will look at that with great interest. As long as the rest gets a worth whle update that is.

2GB preferably 4GB of RAM. 500GB HD as standard. If we get that i could accept no price drop. Come on Apple give us the store back!
 
Has 10.5.2 even been released yet?

Haven't updated to 10.5 yet due to a few software incompatibilities so haven't been paying much attention to the updates.

If it hasn't, wouldn't they want to release that damn soon so that any thing announced at MacWorld would have that installed...

Which would lead me to believe that they may announce something on the 15th but it seems very unlikely it would be shipping the 15th :/
 
It's fun, our days would be that little be more depressing if we weren't sad enough to notice a online store going down.
 
off topic: netdog's Anais Nin quote

Since we are in the world, I guess that means we are back to seeing the world as it is, if we see it as we are.

The Aristotle in me couldn't resist analyzing the syllogism. :)
 
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