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Field conditions are the least of the Dolphin's problems..
David Carr is beyond pathetic...
I've just flicked over to take a look, and the pitch is indeed really cutting up. If you listen carefully, you can just about make out the groundsmen sobbing...
Out of interest, what is the feeling among supporters over there in particular those of the Giants and the Dolphins about this game taking place on foreign soil? Are people happy to see the sport broadening its horizons in this way, or are folk annoyed that they're not able to attend the match in person?
What made me think this in particular is that there has been mention this week about the possibility of playing the odd Premier League match in the States, and the response to this suggestion has been largely negative. Personally, it annoys me when they shift the kick off time of one of our matches backwards or forwards a few hours on police advice or to accommodate Sky, so I'd be even more irritated to learn that they've switched the continent it was being played on as well.
Anyway, like I say I was just wondering what the general feeling about this particular game over in the States was.
I've just flicked over to take a look, and the pitch is indeed really cutting up. If you listen carefully, you can just about make out the groundsmen sobbing...
Out of interest, what is the feeling among supporters over there in particular those of the Giants and the Dolphins about this game taking place on foreign soil? Are people happy to see the sport broadening its horizons in this way, or are folk annoyed that they're not able to attend the match in person?
What made me think this in particular is that there has been mention this week about the possibility of playing the odd Premier League match in the States, and the response to this suggestion has been largely negative. Personally, it annoys me when they shift the kick off time of one of our matches backwards or forwards a few hours on police advice or to accommodate Sky, so I'd be even more irritated to learn that they've switched the continent it was being played on as well.
Anyway, like I say I was just wondering what the general feeling about this particular game over in the States was.
dumb. and so is the idea of having premier league games in america. football (the one we call soccer) is mostly a niche sport here.
I'm happy to be watching my Patriots steamrolling yet another insignificant team in their path.
Bring on Indy!
Bring on Indy!
I think it was a cool idea, the people there seemed to be enjoying themselves. I am interesting to see what they thought of the game, do they like the sport or was this just a novelty. I gather that there are some NFL fans over there. Or was that just good marketing.I've just flicked over to take a look, and the pitch is indeed really cutting up. If you listen carefully, you can just about make out the groundsmen sobbing...
Out of interest, what is the feeling among supporters over there – in particular those of the Giants and the Dolphins – about this game taking place on foreign soil? Are people happy to see the sport broadening its horizons in this way, or are folk annoyed that they're not able to attend the match in person?
What made me think this in particular is that there has been mention this week about the possibility of playing the odd Premier League match in the States, and the response to this suggestion has been largely negative. Personally, it annoys me when they shift the kick off time of one of our matches backwards or forwards a few hours on police advice or to accommodate Sky, so I'd be even more irritated to learn that they've switched the continent it was being played on as well.
Anyway, like I say I was just wondering what the general feeling about this particular game over in the States was.
No, there's definitely a reasonable fanbase here American Football was quite popular for a spell in the early-middish eighties so there are certainly more than a few people over here with an appreciation of the game. Add to that of course American ex-pats and it's not surprising that today's match proved popular with the ticket buying public. I've heard reports that there were over a million enquiries for tickets, so it seems quite a few people will have ended up disappointed (Wembley has a capacity of about 90,000).
How many of those in attendance were 'new' converts who will keep an interest as opposed to established fans is perhaps debatable, but one thing that can't be denied is that it's been great PR for the game, on this side of the Atlantic at least. It's certainly got a lot of mention in the media over the past week or so.
As in physically weak? We make digs on occasion about your boys being a bit soft for wearing pads and helmets, but a few ignorant types aside it's just a bit of leg pulling. Conversely, I know plenty of Americans who enage in a bit of banter about soccer being a game for girls and stuff, so it all gets balanced out.
Naturally opinions differ, there are people here who are fanatical about their NFL and plenty who have no interest in it whatsoever, with all points in between covered too. Personally, I've never been to get into it while I can appreciate the skill the players possess and I recognise that there's a huge amount of tactical depth and complexity to the game, it just doesn't engage me.
Still, that doesn't stop me being pleased that tonight's game at Wembley is being considered a success and was thoroughly enjoyed by those who managed to get their hands on some tickets.
Mike Vrabel had a hell of a game.
3 forced fumbles, 3 sacks
1 touchdown reception (on offense)
I was at the game... there was a mix of fans there. Hard-core in jerseys and merchandise - and newbies who had no clue what was going on. Even several of the merchandise-clad though had obviously never been to a live game so had no clue on when to make noise - and the announcers weren't helping. The way that they sold tickets though didn't help either - groups of fans couldn't sit together easily so you didn't end up with pockets of people who knew what they were doing to encourage the rookies.
I hadn't realised that the roof at Wembley doesn't actually shut - nor did most of those around me who were all calling the groundstaff morons. I thought that was the point of having a sliding roof (a la Reliant Stadium in Houston). So the field was absolutely awful... and the rain meant that the game was reduced to rushing attempts since throwing the ball was going to be pretty tough. If the Dolphins hadn't missed the FG and screwed up the onside kick, it might have been a little more interesting.
The halftime marching band were terribly British... and pretty dull. The streaker did exactly the same thing at Super Bowl XXXVIII so I'm surprised he managed to pull it off again... boom boom!
I disagree with the principle of the thing until they announce a proper schedule for which teams lose 'home' games or introduce a 17th game on the schedule - 8 home games isn't that many so losing one hurts. I felt for the Dolphins so cheered on their defense despite not being a Fins fan. And the Giants got a 'free' home game when Katrina evicted the Saints so didn't want them getting any more crowd help.
And I'm not sure how long the novelty will last. Yes, it's fun to go but not so much when it's not 'your' team there. Football games always have more atmosphere when you care about one of the teams - that's why I'm not entirely convinced this will work in the long term. A serious NFL funded league in Europe would be a better plan to drive football internationally - NFL Europe was underfunded (bet it cost a fraction what tonight's show did), too small with just 6 teams and driven by politics too much so that there was no accountability on playing/coaching decisions which meant no-one took it seriously. Allow fans to bond with a team and get to more than one game every x years.
I hadn't realised that the roof at Wembley doesn't actually shut - nor did most of those around me who were all calling the groundstaff morons. I thought that was the point of having a sliding roof (a la Reliant Stadium in Houston). So the field was absolutely awful... and the rain meant that the game was reduced to rushing attempts since throwing the ball was going to be pretty tough. If the Dolphins hadn't missed the FG and screwed up the onside kick, it might have been a little more interesting.
The halftime marching band were terribly British... and pretty dull.
The streaker did exactly the same thing at Super Bowl XXXVIII so I'm surprised he managed to pull it off again... boom boom!I disagree with the principle of the thing until they announce a proper schedule for which teams lose 'home' games or introduce a 17th game on the schedule - 8 home games isn't that many so losing one hurts. I felt for the Dolphins so cheered on their defense despite not being a Fins fan. And the Giants got a 'free' home game when Katrina evicted the Saints so didn't want them getting any more crowd help.
And I'm not sure how long the novelty will last. Yes, it's fun to go but not so much when it's not 'your' team there. Football games always have more atmosphere when you care about one of the teams - that's why I'm not entirely convinced this will work in the long term. A serious NFL funded league in Europe would be a better plan to drive football internationally - NFL Europe was underfunded (bet it cost a fraction what tonight's show did), too small with just 6 teams and driven by politics too much so that there was no accountability on playing/coaching decisions which meant no-one took it seriously. Allow fans to bond with a team and get to more than one game every x years.
NFL Europe was a failure because of that and also because it was a bunch of **** players off of the real NFL teams practice squads.
Don't forget that most of the teams were from Germany.
Yet another Jets loss today. The AFC East is going to have 2 out of the 3 worst teams in the league. 0-16 Fins and the 1-15 Jets.
Just a few years ago it was one of the better divisions. The Jets were good, the Fins were competitive, and the Bills were on their way up...
Now the Pats are the last man standing.
Very true. The AFC was looking like one of the toughest, if not the toughest divisions in all of football. Now it's crap.
Pats vs Colts should be a great game.
Nobody mentioned that Vilma is done for the season with a knee injury. He'll most likely walk at the end of the year. He hates the 3-4 and is not being utilized to his fulled potential (see when they were in the 4-3 and his was all over the place)
I've just flicked over to take a look, and the pitch is indeed really cutting up. If you listen carefully, you can just about make out the groundsmen sobbing...
Out of interest, what is the feeling among supporters over there in particular those of the Giants and the Dolphins about this game taking place on foreign soil? Are people happy to see the sport broadening its horizons in this way, or are folk annoyed that they're not able to attend the match in person?
What made me think this in particular is that there has been mention this week about the possibility of playing the odd Premier League match in the States, and the response to this suggestion has been largely negative. Personally, it annoys me when they shift the kick off time of one of our matches backwards or forwards a few hours on police advice or to accommodate Sky, so I'd be even more irritated to learn that they've switched the continent it was being played on as well.
Anyway, like I say I was just wondering what the general feeling about this particular game over in the States was.
I was fine with the concept of a regular season game on British soil at the beginning of the season, until we all found out how horrid the Dolphins are this year. Might as well have re-assembled one of the NFL Europa teams to face the Giants. Watching the game I was stunned how poor the field.....errr pitch was for American Football. Next time maybe lay fieldturf on top of the pitch. One day without sunlight won't kill the pitch. Oh fieldturf is artificial grass with tiny ground pieces of rubber mixed between the blades. Bodies and balls bounce on it more like real grass.
As for a a Premier League game in the states, I would be interested but as you stated yourself the logistics would be difficult. When would the start time be? 10am pacific, 1 pm atlantic, 5pm UK time? It would be too early for me to crack open a beer. A cold beer of course
We regularly have games kicking off at times past 5pm most evening games during the week start at 7.45pm, for example, so the time difference really wouldn't be an issue I think. The problems really are to do with the fact that our soccer teams play more games more frequently than their American Football counterparts you're not going to want your club flying out to Chicago or Dallas to play a League game on a Saturday or Sunday when you've got a Champions League match in Eastern Europe the following Wednesday night.
The problem too with playing Premier League matches over in the States is that I think it would also detract interest from the MLS teams surely it's far better to encourage the growth of the US domestic league rather than import over a foreign competitor? If there are folk in English football who really want to see our teams play in the States then organise a few pre-season tours or even a little tournament each year. Meanwhile, I'll wait to see if the West Ham chairman (whose suggestion this is) is prepared to go to the effort and expense of organising a pre-season tour to the states for his team next year.
We're familiar with the stuff, it's used quite often for all-weather training pitches and stuff over here. Yes, the pitch was cutting up really badly and it's clear that our nice footballing pitch isn't really up to the demands of an American Football game in the drizzle.
That's the point. They weren't to start with - there was Scotland, England, Barcelona, Amsterdam and two German teams (Frankfurt and Dusseldorf) and back then, sure, they were mostly bottom of the roster and practice squad guys but they were 'ours' and like everyone who has a team, we cared. And in the early 2000s before they really started watering it down, there were quite a few players who went back to the NFL and achieved some success. There are still a few ex-Claymores in the league 4 years after the team died.
Two of them were in the latest Niners debacle - one on either side of the field. Smith really didn't look ready to come back from his shoulder injury. His passes had no touch to them and he was obviously wincing walking back to the huddle. Was still possibly better than Dilfer was in relief... but... oh dear! The only plus point is that the Rams are so bad the Niners aren't in the basement yet.
It's only fitting I guess that whatever "ball bug" has been effecting Portis and Moss got picked up by Campbell. The ball is your friend guys, the ball is your friend!
The cobbled together o-line really got exposed yesterday.
Lethal
For the love of God,say it isn't so
JEFF GEORGE WANTS BACK IN
Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that 39-year-old quarterback Jeff George, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1990 draft, is lobbying to be signed by the Vikings.
George called our buddy Paul Allen of KFAN on Monday to see if P.A. would gauge the team's interest.
"I know they're banged up," George told Jensen. "But with a running back like Adrian Peterson, I would be licking my chops. With that running back, you need someone who can throw that deep ball, and I know I still can. I don't care about the talent at receiver."
George spent a season with the Vikings in 1999, and replaced a sputtering Randall Cunningham while the Vikings were 2-3 and losing to the Lions. George nearly pulled off the comeback, but did enough to win the job -- and he lead the Vikes into the postseason, where they lost to the Rams in the divisional round.
JEFF GEORGE WANTS BACK IN
Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that 39-year-old quarterback Jeff George, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1990 draft, is lobbying to be signed by the Vikings.
George called our buddy Paul Allen of KFAN on Monday to see if P.A. would gauge the team's interest.
"I know they're banged up," George told Jensen. "But with a running back like Adrian Peterson, I would be licking my chops. With that running back, you need someone who can throw that deep ball, and I know I still can. I don't care about the talent at receiver."
George spent a season with the Vikings in 1999, and replaced a sputtering Randall Cunningham while the Vikings were 2-3 and losing to the Lions. George nearly pulled off the comeback, but did enough to win the job -- and he lead the Vikes into the postseason, where they lost to the Rams in the divisional round.
And he just did to Dre Bly too.
82 yard touchdown pass by Favre to Greg Jennings on the first play of overtime. Packers win 19-13. That was awesome.
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