2008-09 NFL Season Thread

[Dandaman]

DAMN YOU Martin Grammatica.......

Denver gets lucky again. Well, half lucky - you guys stuffed us on a easy to make 3rd and 1. Deuce would have converted that.

As a dyed in the wool Saints dude, I'm a big Cutler fan. I think he'll be an elite QB before his time is done. I certainly wish I would have drafted him!

I really hope our defense comes around. However, we did play two offensive heavy teams. If we can't hold Kansas City down this weekend, then I am officially worried about the Denver Defense.

I love Cutler and I'm so glad we got him in that draft. He makes some sick throws. That NO game was an off day for him! ~280 yards 2TDs an off day!! He does have a solid offensive minded coach and many many weapons to throw to.

 

[rdowns]

Hello????????

Jets winning 34-0 at the half.

Cardinals are just awful. 5 turnovers.

And Jets wearing the most hideous throw back uniforms ever.

 

[fotografica]

"The Cardinals are who we thought they were."

Edit:21 points in the third quarter,lol...

 

[majordude]

Cardinals are just awful. 5 turnovers.

And every year (at least since they moved to Phoenix) they are expected to be the Cinderella of the season. I just don't get it. Don't people see a trend here?

You have to be extraordinarily talented to be so bad, year after year, in the NFL. The whole system is designed so that crappy teams get better and great teams get worse. The worst team this year will have a chance to get the best college player next year. To override a system like that you have to have mad skill.

I mean, how do the Lions, Cards, Raiders, Falcons, 'Ain'ts, Chiefs, Jets, Bengles, Browns, Dolphins and Texans pull it off?!

I'm serious!

 

[fotografica]

And every year (at least since they moved to Phoenix) they are expected to be the Cinderella of the season. I just don't get it. Don't people see a trend here?

You have to be extraordinarily talented to be so bad, year after year, in the NFL. The whole system is designed so that crappy teams get better and great teams get worse. The worst team this year will have a chance to get the best college player next year. To override a system like that you have to have mad skill.

I mean, how do the Lions, Cards, Raiders, Falcons, 'Ain'ts, Chiefs, Jets, Bengles, Browns, Dolphins and Texans pull it off?!

I'm serious!

I'll point to exhibit A,Matt Millen..When you've got a GM like that,you can have five number one draft picks in a row and it won't matter..When ownership/management suffers from cranial rectal insertion,there's your answer..

 

[Applespider]

And every year (at least since they moved to Phoenix) they are expected to be the Cinderella of the season. I just don't get it. Don't people see a trend here?

Well, they do play in the NFC West which no-one usually seems to want to win. I mean last year the Niners, as bad as they were, still weren't mathematically dead until the last couple of weeks of the season.

You have to be extraordinarily talented to be so bad, year after year, in the NFL. The whole system is designed so that crappy teams get better and great teams get worse. The worst team this year will have a chance to get the best college player next year.

Except the salary cap combined with the ridiculously high rookie salaries don't help. It's almost becoming a bad thing to have a top 10 pick these days - if you end up with more than one in a row. Way too much cash tied up in rookies that can be a complete bust; the draft for the most part is a million-dollar gamble. And running backs aside, there aren't many rookies who make a great impact in their first year (honorable mention to Patrick Willis last year).

Some interesting games though this week - a few upsets perhaps on the cards.

 

[Applespider]

Even though it's knocked me out of Survival Football, gotta love the Chiefs beating the Broncos

Have always had a small Chiefs soft spot partly since Montana went there and partly after a fabulous MNF experience at Arrowhead; one of the best NFL experiences I've ever had.

 

[fotografica]

Solid win for the Skins...Thought those two penalties that negated TD's might come back at them..NFCE is a beast...

 

[scotty96LSC]

Glad to see the Cowgirls lose. Always puts a smile on my face.

 

[madfresh]

I'm getting annoyed of my niners being murdered by the Saints every season.

Also surprised by the WAS win over Dallas.

 

[majordude]

Also surprised by the WAS win over Dallas.

Hail to the Redskins! Hail Vic-tor-eee!

NFCE is a beast...

The SEC of the NFL.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Hail to the Redskins! Hail Vic-tor-eee!

The prevent defense late in both halves almost gave me a heart attack though. We were solidly controlling both sides of the ball and we almost gave it up by playing too conservatively as the game moved towards the 2 minute warnings.


Lethal

 

[majordude]

The prevent defense late in both halves almost gave me a heart attack though. We were solidly controlling both sides of the ball and we almost gave it up by playing too conservatively as the game moved towards the 2 minute warnings.

My thought was that the Skins started running the ball too much at the end and while they ran time off the clock they weren't going to score any more points.

Also, while it worked out in the end, I thought it was bad to settle for field goals once to many times. The strategy and play calling was very Gibbs-like, oddly enough.

It's hard to believe that this is the same Coach Zorn from a month ago. He actually came across as authoritative and knowledgeable... he looked like a head coach!

 

[madfresh]

Oh, and btw, T.O. is not a "physical" receiver. I'm tired of announcers saying he is a physical receiver.

 

[majordude]

Oh, and btw, T.O. is not a "physical" receiver. I'm tired of announcers saying he is a physical receiver.

Yeah, I've seen him display his alligator arms many times over his career... however, I will say that he seems to be more brave as he grows older. Same for Randy Moss. He never used to run across the middle. Then again, he never played any down that he didn't want to either.

 

[madfresh]

Bears and Eagles game:

Some pretty good football so far. Love that spinning 18-yard run by Kevin Jones, and that series of passes to Reggie Brown.

Game planning note: the Eagles eat cover 2 for lunch. Find a different defense to stop them.

SIDE NOTE: Cutler is the most impressive Qb i've ever seen.

 

[swiftaw]

And Jets wearing the most hideous throw back uniforms ever.

Actually I think the Eagles have the worst throwback jerseys:

 

[majordude]

SIDE NOTE: Cutler is the most impressive Qb i've ever seen.

He lost against the Chiefs. Let me repeat that... he lost against the Chiefs.

And, I'm guessing that you are young, because Elway, Young, Aikman, Montana, Marino, Jergunsen, Starr and Unitis were waaay better than he is.

Hell, there are probably five QBs that play today that are better than he is!

 

[madfresh]

He lost against the Chiefs. Let me repeat that... he lost against the Chiefs.

And, I'm guessing that you are young, because Elway, Young, Aikman, Montana, Marino, Jergunsen, Starr and Unitis were waaay better than he is.

Hell, there are probably five QBs that play today that are better than he is!

Cutler is still extremely young. What I mean by impressive is his raw talent. He has an amazing arm, mobile enough, and is still very young. Give him a few years, and I have no doubt he will be considered the best QB in the league.

And come on, Aikman? Aikman pales in comparison to Cutler talent wise. In fact, if it wasn't for Norv Turner resurrecting Aikman, Aikman may have been a colossal bust.

 

[majordude]

And come on, Aikman? Aikman pales in comparison to Cutler talent wise. In fact, if it wasn't for Norv Turner resurrecting Aikman, Aikman may have been a colossal bust.

Aikman was probably the most accurate passer of the group.

Personally, if I could have any QB in their prime it would be Elway. There was just something about him. A confidence. A charisma.

Even when the Broncos were down by 21 with three minutes left you still thought he could pull it out.

 

[majordude]

Wow, the Skins have a better record than the Eagles!

You know, I don't understand the out of bounds rule. Sometimes the clock stops, sometimes it doesn't. On that last play by the Eagles, he was out of bounds or the ball was but the clock keeps ticking? It happens almost every game. I can't figure it out an no one really seems to complain about it... so it must just be me!

And yes, Madden does like to hype certain things or certain people, but that last goal-line stand really was a SWARMING Chicago defense. Every member of the defense was in that pile. Amazing.

 

[Mike Teezie]

He lost against the Chiefs. Let me repeat that... he lost against the Chiefs.

And, I'm guessing that you are young, because Elway, Young, Aikman, Montana, Marino, Jergunsen, Starr and Unitis were waaay better than he is.

Hell, there are probably five QBs that play today that are better than he is!

Agreed, and like I said earlier, I like Cutler.

Since the best player in the whole league is out for the year, this is how I see the quarterback situation right now:

1. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
3. Tony Romo
5. Philip Rivers
5. Donovan McNabb

 

[yellow]

Interesting day of football.

Since it's a Pats bye-week, I get to watch a lot more of other teams. It was a good week too!

Pack/Bucs was pretty good.
Hou/Jax was pretty good.
Skins/Cows game was pretty good.

6 TDs for Jet Farve? Wow.

Though I hate to see the Jets win*, I enjoy reading "Brett doesn't have the vertical targets he used to have a Green Bay...".


*: Division rivalry, after all. But not because of the Jets players or fans, so much. They have a lot in common with the Pats. Mainly because I seriously want to kick Mangina in his smug face.

It all comes down to the Monday night game for me, on whether I beat my wife this week. I lost the first 3 weeks, I need a win here. I took the Ravens. <crosses fingers>

 

[MacNut]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3616696
Collier paralyzed below waist, one leg had to be amputated
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Jacksonville Jaguars offensive tackle Richard Collier, shot while sitting in a car outside an apartment complex earlier this month, is paralyzed below the waist and his left leg was amputated, his doctor said Monday.

Collier was on a ventilator for about three weeks and has no memory of the shooting, said Dr. Andy Kerwin, a surgeon for the University of Florida at Shands Jacksonville hospital.

"His overall condition has improved greatly," Kerwin said. "We expect him to be discharged soon."

Kerwin said Collier suffered 14 bullet wounds to the back, left groin, left legs and right buttock. In addition, a bullet severed his spinal cord, causing the paralysis. The amputation was the result of damage to his left leg and groin, where blood clots formed. Five bullets alone were removed from his urinary bladder and the 26-year-old player also had bouts of pneumonia, infections and renal failure.

Still, his condition has been upgraded to good from critical.

Collier will undergo physical therapy to learn how to move from his bed to a wheelchair. He will never walk again, the doctor said.

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Rams fire Linehan; D-coordinator Haslett tapped as interim coach
ST. LOUIS -- After experiencing the wild highs and lows of the Mike Martz years, the winless St. Louis Rams opted for cool, calm, reserved Scott Linehan as their next coach.

On Monday, they admitted their mistake and fired Linehan after four consecutive lopsided losses to open the season. Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, a fiery type and polar opposite in terms of demeanor, was hired as interim coach, given the unenviable task of trying to revive a franchise that has become an NFL doormat.

The Rams have lost 17 of their last 20 games, most of them routs. But no matter how dire the situation appears, Haslett said it'll never be as bad as in his final season as head coach of the New Orleans Saints in 2005 in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3615358

 

[majordude]

1. Collier paralyzed below waist, one leg had to be amputated
2. Rams fire Linehan; D-coordinator Haslett tapped as interim coach

Wow, which is the greater tragedy?

In all seriousness, I really feel for Collier. That sucks. It's times like this that I truly hope that the religious folks are right. The coward(s) that did this to him deserve burn forever in a special place in the center of Hell.

BTW, who is your icon? Don't know her name...