we scheduled oregon state, we have alabama in the future. scheduling can be worked out
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2008/9 COLLEGE Football Thread
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we scheduled oregon state, we have alabama in the future. scheduling can be worked out
OK, quite disappointed it comes to this... but I have had enough and I'm done posting here
Somebody turn the lights out in the thread if and when you finally get finished beating this dead horse
Woof, Woof - Dawg
Somebody turn the lights out in the thread if and when you finally get finished beating this dead horse
Woof, Woof - Dawg
it is college football, you beat everything to a pulp 
but this utah stuff is getting realllllllllll annoying.
but this utah stuff is getting realllllllllll annoying.
+1. I went out to the driving range this week to get ready for the off season.
Actually, there's a lot to that argument. I watched several Bama games this year, and the team that showed up at the Sugar looked little like the team that won 12 games and played a tough SEC Championship game. Sloppy line play, not holding blocks, missed tackles ( very un-Saban like ), and NO intensity in the first half. No passion, no pop.
College football is very dependent on emotion and motivation. Several on this board have made it clear that they thought Utah was playing for the NC in the Sugar Bowl.
What was Bama playing for?
See, I told you this a few days ago.
The article's dead-on right. The only thing left out was that the Big Ten should lose its automatic BCS game.
Utah went undefeated. End of story.
When the BCS was first being developed there was a lot of controversy on SOS, whether it should be included or not in the calculations. There was some feeling that several team in the pre-BCS era were awarded NC status by going undefeated and beating impressively sub-par opposition. Kind of the same argument Utah is making this year.
Stafford and Moreno have left the building
Woof, Woof Dawg
Tough road there Dawg. Strangely, I think MoMass is going to be the best at the next level. He's not as flashy as Moreno or Green, but he's a gamer. Plus I'm glad to see him go, seems like he's been catching passes against us for at least a decade. What is he, a 12th year senior?
Well, if Jim Rome and Michelle Tafoya said it, it must be true!
I wouldn't recognize Tafoya if she fell out of a tree in front of me.
Can't stand Rome. If he could go 2 minutes without saying something stupid, I'd award him the National Championship!
again, what is the alternative? for utah to not play football? surely you realize that that is not an option as football revenue is vital to a school in terms of funding
i would hardly say utah or any non bcs team is perfectly fine with the current system.
what do you propose non bcs conferences do, have their own championship that wouldnt be recognized as a championship as no other big name bcs schools would participate?
im glad the bcs is getting sued...it should be. however i find it sad how some posters on this board think its insane for utah or any other school to try and change the system (talking to you obey908 lol)
I'll say it again:
I don't think that's true. I really truely do think that Utah is just that good this year. They made Alabama look terrible, they were too fast (something people said Alabama would do to Utah) they were too physical (something people said Alabama would do to Utah), they were too skilled (something people said Alabama would do to Utah), and they were able to execute essentially every single aspect of their game plan (something people said Alabama would do to Utah).
But if you are right and Alabama was flat because they didn't have anything to play for, then that just goes to further the argument that there needs to be a playoff. If that were the case, Alabama would need to show up for Utah just as much as Florida. Apparently SEC teams can't be bothered to bring their A game unless the match up has title implications. Well that just goes to show that they never belonged in the title equation to begin with. Florida doesn't either, they screwed the pooch against an unranked team!
Utah beat everyone, they even got up for the San Diego State game because if there's one thing the Utes understand, it's that every game matters!
SLC
Well we played and beat Oregon State and Alabama this year and it still didn't help! What else ya got?
SLC
You are tiresome. I am one who is suggesting that Utah try and change the system if they are unhappy. So my post is amusing because I say that Utah should try to change things, yet, you denigrate those who think it is insane that Utah change it
I find your contradictions amusing.Please listen for the last time! I never said that Utah should not play. I never said they should create their own title. I said that by playing, you agree to the system in its current format. So they should not bitch after the fact. If you do not like it, then work to change it (like I referenced with the lawsuit.) BEFORE the season. No one is perfectly happy with the BCS as it is now, but they all agreed to it by playing and it is the system we have.
Am I clear now?!?
Whether or not people like it, Either OU or Florida will be the national champion. NOT Utah! All of this Utah talk is so tiresome and crybaby-ish. Utah will not be the champion. Game over. Let's please move on to the game that will crown a champion.
OK, quite disappointed it comes to this... but I have had enough and I'm done posting here
Somebody turn the lights out in the thread if and when you finally get finished beating this dead horse
Woof, Woof - Dawg
See ya, and we will. Good luck to the Dawgs next year!
and michigan......how was utah suppose to know they were gonna suck majorly
Let Utah be mentioned no more obey908, who is your pick for the championship game tomorrow and why?
You are tiresome. I am one who is suggesting that Utah try and change the system if they are unhappy. So my post is amusing because I say that Utah should try to change things, yet, you denigrate those who think it is insane that Utah change it
Please listen for the last time! I never said that Utah should not play. I never said they should create their own title. I said that by playing, you agree to the system in its current format. So they should not bitch after the fact. If you do not like it, then work to change it (like I referenced with the lawsuit.) BEFORE the season. No one is perfectly happy with the BCS as it is now, but they all agreed to it by playing and it is the system we have.
Am I clear now?!?
Whether or not people like it, Either OU or Florida will be the national champion. NOT Utah! All of this Utah talk is so tiresome and crybaby-ish. Utah will not be the champion. Game over. Let's please move on to the game that will crown a champion.
But the problem is, almost nobody thinks that the game tomorrow will crown a legitimate champion. Look at any of the millions of polls floating around and you'll get an idea of what I'm talking about! And there was mention of a solution to fix the BCS that was brought up by the Pac-10 during the off season. The rest of the BCS conference commissioners voted to not even discuss it. Look it up!
The MWC commissioner doesn't even have a seat at the table to discuss any of the goings on in the BCS.
You can call it crybabyish, you can call it whatever you like. But you'd be naive to not recognize that getting people everywhere talking about situations like this is the first step in changing the system!
SLC
you keep saying they agree and are ok with it by playing as if they had an alternative.
do you not see how they dont have a choice but to play under the current system?
football is a money maker for schools and would be unfeasible for them to not play and thus they have to play under the current system. by no means does this imply they cant challenge the system in which they are arguably gtting screwed. even by them taing action by suing the bcs this offseason, it wont change anything next year. does that mean if utah goes undefeated again and beats another powerhouse school in a bowl game next year, they shouldnt argue they should be considered for the title?
the system will not change unless all school/conferences agree. tell me, what incentive is it for the bcs conferences to open the doors up to all these non bcs schools? there isnt any..
am i clear now?
I agree talk might lead to change. But can we put a 24-hour moratorium on it and just discuss the game tomorrow? After that, let's hash out what went wrong and what can be done to fix things
my what a joke comment was about saban being coach of the year lol
but i agree about the comebacks about utah
i like florida. i honestly have not been impressed with the big12 all season, and in the bowls. I know they have done pretty well in the bowls, but their big bad offesnes really haven't shown and I think their weak defenses have been exposed more. I really don't think Florida will have that much of a problem. Tebow is just a great leader and will have florida fired up to play. A lot of people don't think tebow is a passer because of how well he runs, but he sure can throw the ball.
I think bradford will be a lot under pressure the whole game and interested to see how he deals with it. If he can deal with the pressure, it may be closer than expected. if not, here comes a blow out.
I really look for tebow in this game to get florida fired up. And for florida's defense to be all over bradford
and tebow is the real heisman. he had the most 1st place votes! haha
i just want a good game! the only real good game has been osu and texas
but i agree about the comebacks about utah
i like florida. i honestly have not been impressed with the big12 all season, and in the bowls. I know they have done pretty well in the bowls, but their big bad offesnes really haven't shown and I think their weak defenses have been exposed more. I really don't think Florida will have that much of a problem. Tebow is just a great leader and will have florida fired up to play. A lot of people don't think tebow is a passer because of how well he runs, but he sure can throw the ball.
I think bradford will be a lot under pressure the whole game and interested to see how he deals with it. If he can deal with the pressure, it may be closer than expected. if not, here comes a blow out.
I really look for tebow in this game to get florida fired up. And for florida's defense to be all over bradford
and tebow is the real heisman. he had the most 1st place votes! haha
i just want a good game! the only real good game has been osu and texas
I am not sure what to make of things. I am a die-hard OU fan, but am indeed concerned about the game.
Yeah the Big 12 is 4-2, but the vaunted South division is 1-2, with all 3 games being underwhelming. 3 of the 4 wins are from the weaker North. I guess OU will have a chance to prove that the South was not overrated. However, if they don't play well, then perhaps I and others were fooled by the South this year.
Yeah the Big 12 is 4-2, but the vaunted South division is 1-2, with all 3 games being underwhelming. 3 of the 4 wins are from the weaker North. I guess OU will have a chance to prove that the South was not overrated. However, if they don't play well, then perhaps I and others were fooled by the South this year.
I think that taking any and all hype out of the game tomorrow is paramount to what we're trying to accomplish, so no we can't! The game tomorrow is for 3rd place after USC!
SLC
I think Florida is going to win. I still haven't decided who I'm rooting for yet, I've hated the Gators and the Sooners long before this season.
P-Worm
P-Worm
Wow.
Enough of the Utah bitching and moaning. It's taking all the fun out of the thread.
What's done is done and no amount of arguing is going to change it. You all are just annoying as hell.
Anyway.............
I'm never any good at predicting scores, but I'll go with:
Oklahoma - 24
Florida - 21
I think it's going to come down to a field goal.
Enough of the Utah bitching and moaning. It's taking all the fun out of the thread.
What's done is done and no amount of arguing is going to change it. You all are just annoying as hell.
Anyway.............
I'm never any good at predicting scores, but I'll go with:
Oklahoma - 24
Florida - 21
I think it's going to come down to a field goal.
I disagree. I think Saban did some great things for the Crimson Tide. He sure gave them a great season this year.
P-Worm
I was worried about the curse as well, but the last time that the previous year's Heisman winner and current year 3rd place finisher played the current year's Heisman winner (Jason White vs. Matt Leinart in 2004), the current Heisman winner's team won handily. Hopefully the same will happen for OU