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2008 Formula One Thread

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In fact make the drivers push the cars, that would get rid off ALL driver aids! :rolleyes:

I remember Minardi having to test on F3000 tyres because they didn't have a contract with either Bridgestone or Michelin at the time. They where about 5 seconds a lap slower than usual!
 
iGav said:
Paddle shifts can't really be considered a driver aid, it'd be akin to suggesting that synchromesh is one as well. :p
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Semi automatic gearboxes are a driver aid though.

They say "no driver aids" when all they really mean is he had the traction control off.

There are plenty of other bits and pieces that aid the driver that he was more than likely using.
 
bartelby said:
Semi automatic gearboxes are a driver aid though.
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As I said, in no more a sense than how synchromesh could be considered a driver aid, or even a clutch.

The term semi-manual would probably be more apt, because whilst part of the process of changing gear is electro-hydraulically controlled, the actual decision to change gear is decided by the driver.

bartelby said:
They say "no driver aids" when all they really mean is he had the traction control off.
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Amongst other things, it's not just traction control that F1 will be losing.
 
R.Youden said:
In fact make the drivers push the cars, that would get rid off ALL driver aids! :rolleyes:

I remember Minardi having to test on F3000 tyres because they didn't have a contract with either Bridgestone or Michelin at the time. They where about 5 seconds a lap slower than usual!
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That's because they were Avon tyres, not designed for the car. And it was a Minardi.

I don't mind semi-auto gearboxes, but I'm glad that traction control has gone.
 
So what do you reckon are the odds that Schu will race in a GP again? Most drivers find it hard to step away, and Schu seems not to have lost any speed since he left...
 
To be honest I don't think it is a terrible thing that M. Schumacher may come back. It would be great to see him race head to head against Hamilton. Schumacher for champion in 2008 :)

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I'm confused Mclaren & Renault got caught doing basically the same thing
one gets a $100 million fine the other gets a slap on the wrist (if that)
isn't that just a tiny bit inconsistent?

Remind me, in which country is the FIA based?
 
The 10 year freeze is still stupid.

If F1 engines are irrelevant, why would you freeze them as being so irrelevant for 10 years? A better way to keep F1 relevant would be to force the cars to do, say, 20mpg by bringing in fixed fuel amounts for races with no refuelling.

I predict that if this comes in, it won't last the 10 years. Either that or the "rogue" teams finally go through with their competing series plan.
 
DAC47 said:
I'm confused Mclaren & Renault got caught doing basically the same thing one gets a $100 million fine the other gets a slap on the wrist (if that) isn't that just a tiny bit inconsistent?
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Nope. The precedent was set in July when McLaren were found guilty but went unpunished as well.
 
scotthayes said:
Unpunished!!! So what do you call loosing all constructors points?
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They where punished at a later hearing when evidence of an e-mail conversation between Alonso and De La Rosa became apparent, and phone calls and text message logs where found to show more communication between Stepney and Coughlan. It was at that point that McLaren where penalised.
 
I'd like to see Schumacher back. Don't care what team, but to have him race on a futher leveled field with another two champions on the grid would be a good test for him, especially after taking a sabbatical year.

It's unlikely though, why risk being beaten to the title again? :D

Having said that, his already uber high status would send his kudos level to new heights if he spanked the opposition again for 'old times sake'.
 
R.Youden said:
They where punished at a later hearing when evidence of an e-mail conversation between Alonso and De La Rosa became apparent, and phone calls and text message logs where found to show more communication between Stepney and Coughlan. It was at that point that McLaren where penalised.
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Indeed. I suspect that should any new evidence come to light suggesting that Renault were receiving a near constant stream of information from a current senior McLaren staff member throughout the majority of the 2007 Formula 1 season then they, like McLaren will be invited back to an extraordinary meeting of the WMSC and will suffer a similar penalty.

Personally... I think both McLaren and Renault should've been excluded from participating in the 2008 Formula 1 World Championship.

God bless the good ship Ferrari. :p :p :p
 
RemarkabLee said:
I'd like to see Schumacher back. Don't care what team, but to have him race on a futher leveled field with another two champions on the grid would be a good test for him, especially after taking a sabbatical year.

It's unlikely though, why risk being beaten to the title again? :D
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Exactly. A test is one thing, but coming back to such a sport at that age, for a whole season, is a different proposition. I'm not saying he wouldn't do well, but time and history aren't on his side.
 
AlBDamned said:
but time and history aren't on his side.
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History could be... Lauda in '84 and Prost in '93 are two examples of drivers making a a comeback and winning the WDC.

But I'm convinced that he'd take Räikkönen over a season. Schumacher's average gap over Massa was significantly greater than that of Räikkönen's. ;)

AlBDamned said:
Also looks like the younger Schumacher may be hanging up the fireproof overalls...
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He's done nothing other than bring the good name of Schumacher into disrepute. :p
 
RemarkabLee said:
I'd like to see Schumacher back. Don't care what team, but to have him race on a futher leveled field with another two champions on the grid would be a good test for him, especially after taking a sabbatical year.

It's unlikely though, why risk being beaten to the title again? :D

Having said that, his already uber high status would send his kudos level to new heights if he spanked the opposition again for 'old times sake'.
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I wonder what team he'd come back to. Would Ferrari cut Kimi or Massa to have one more year of Michael? And for that matter, Michael would only come back to a team with a car that is a title contender - so that would be Ferrari, McLaren and what? Bmw maybe?

I'd like to see him back for a full season, but I just don't see it happening, sadly.
 
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