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Ferrari.

Yes, Massa is not a world champion.

And Massa only has 1 more year on this contract, right? I guess that makes sense. I like Massa, but for Michael, I'd let him go. Hmm, so then in 2009 it would be Kimi and Fred?
 
AutoWeek said:
The McLaren-Mercedes Formula One team will have to wait several more weeks before it learns whether or not the FIA has found its 2008 car includes any of Ferrari's intellectual property.

If it does, McLaren-Mercedes will face further sanctions on top of the $100 million fine and loss of constructors' championship points it was hit with in 2007 as a result of the spy scandal that rocked the sport.

The FIA World Motor Sport Council met in Monaco on Friday, Dec. 7, and was set to announce the findings of inspectors who examined McLaren's new MP4-23 car.

The FIA sent inspectors to review the car's design after it became clear that information passed by former Ferrari employee Nigel Stepney to former McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan might have been used in the design or technology of McLaren's new car.

The FIA now wants McLaren and Ferrari to comment on the inspectors' findings and has scheduled a meeting for Feb. 14 in Paris.

I guess this means that Fred will not make up his mind and Mc and Ren and Toy are all in a holding pattern?
 
Either way it Looks unfair in the light of the mclaren fine

Maybe, but I'd argue that it's better that it looks unfair rather than it actually been unfair which it undeniably would've been had Renault been punished for a similar offense to which McLaren themselves went unpunished for in July.
 
Huge surprise, that...Flav seemed able to handle him before, anyway. But is the car good for a championship run?

Depends how much McLaren is in it I guess. Or Ferrari for that matter. Fred has intimate knowledge of both, although I'd warrant that he wouldn't be as stupid next time to e-mail people admitting as such... :rolleyes:
 
The FIA are doing their best to ruin F1. What nonsense all the Ferrari spying business is. F1 is such a tight knit sport where engineers at all levels from mechanics to head desgners go from team to team regularly. Ferrari were notorous for spying on radio traffic.

If ferrari were so foolish as to piss off their head designer so much that he copies documents and offers them to other teams it is their fault.

F1 is in free fall and most people think its a complete farce, Mclaren not being awarded any points but their drivers still eligible. What crap.

I'm totally loosing interest in F1 and the FIA won't rest until all the geat UK teams are out of the running.

Most spectators won't care and will be turned off by all this. All the people I know who were once huge F1 fans (myself included) are now turned off this festering sport to the point of vowing not to watch it anymore.

I have been to many GP and would look forward to my copy of Grand Prix International magazine. Now its nothing more than oversponsored borefest.

What sort of an example is Alonso to my kids? A brooding pouting self centred bitter over paid ego maniac who seems clinically deranged and ruthless. Where are teh knock about larikins like Alan Jones and James hunt-they were heroes. Not this bunch of whining prima donners

Sorry for my rant but I am so fed up with all these stupid rule changes, prancing spoilt drivers and now this spying crap is the final straw for me.

http://en.ce.cn/sports/formula/200707/30/t20070730_12359126.shtml
 
Its a while since I posted on here, anyway:

Fred to Renault, not a huge shock there.

Heikki to McLaren, good move by McLaren. Ferd did a Senna and said that he didn't want Heikki as a team mate because he was too fast, poor little Freddie!

And Lewis has been caught doing over 120mph in France.

Now this may cause a few outbursts, but it is my opinion that if a driver is caught speeding on the public highway then they should be penalised in the sport. They have a responsibility to show people that just beacsue they drive at 200mph it does not make that behaviour acceptable on a road and they are commiting a serious crime. I just think it sends out all the wrong messages, and Lewis is behaving like a spoilt child at the moment.
 
New ferrari for 2008 (sorry, don't know how long the pics will stay up, they should not be out 'till tomorrow):

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Looks OK, Toyota style front nose.
 
To compare to the F2007 (top)

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The most obvious changes are the new engine cover (BMW link) and the higher head protectors around the cockpit. Also, there are no turning veins around the rear of the nose section (the are now in the suspension). The also have dropped the telemetry antenna so they may be running the flat-patch antenna like the Honda have in the past.

The overall height of the side pod is the same, but they have been 'lifted' with more of an undercut.

There is also some slits in the sidepod winglet.
 
To compare to the F2007 (top)

It's difficult to compare the two at the moment, the same way as it was between the 248 and the F2007 at launch, because the launch photographs seldom show the new (season starting) aero-package.

And a link posted on the Atlas Forums reminded me just how good a contemporary Ferrari F1 car would look with '80's aping black wings and detailing. :D

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It's difficult to compare the two at the moment, the same way as it was between the 248 and the F2007 at launch, because the launch photographs seldom show the new (season starting) aero-package.

And a link posted on the Atlas Forums reminded me just how good a contemporary Ferrari F1 car would look with '80's aping black wings and detailing. :D

Here.

Ferrari have said that they will see some updates before Australia. That is pretty obvious when you look at the rear wing end plates, they are almost identical as last year.
 
Ferrari have said that they will see some updates before Australia. That is pretty obvious when you look at the rear wing end plates, they are almost identical as last year.

Supposed to be an innovative nose in the works isn't there... :D
 
It's difficult to compare the two at the moment, the same way as it was between the 248 and the F2007 at launch, because the launch photographs seldom show the new (season starting) aero-package.

And a link posted on the Atlas Forums reminded me just how good a contemporary Ferrari F1 car would look with '80's aping black wings and detailing. :D

Looks a bit burnt to be honest.:eek: Wonder what the Honda livery is gonna be? Grey with smog detailng?:p
 
It's difficult to compare the two at the moment, the same way as it was between the 248 and the F2007 at launch, because the launch photographs seldom show the new (season starting) aero-package.

And a link posted on the Atlas Forums reminded me just how good a contemporary Ferrari F1 car would look with '80's aping black wings and detailing. :D

Here.

Holy crap that looks sexy! I always enjoyed the Marlboro/Vodafone red with white, but this car would look amazing in red/black, especially since I'm not really a fan of the red/red.

Also, I don't think those are Ferraris in that picture. The top and bottom aren't even the same development of whatever car they are.
 
Looks a bit burnt to be honest.:eek: Wonder what the Honda livery is gonna be? Grey with smog detailng?:p

They will have to stick with the Earth car for a few more seasons, it won't send out a good message if they say, well actually this environment stuff is all crap, we want sponsors!
 
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