Well, if he survives until the January transfer window his (presumably) new signings need to do a job for him otherwise he definitely won't see the season out. Rumour has it he has to win his next match or he's gone.
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Well, if he survives until the January transfer window his (presumably) new signings need to do a job for him otherwise he definitely won't see the season out. Rumour has it he has to win his next match or he's gone.
I was a bit concerned with Vito at the end of our match against Reading on the 28th he was hobbling a bit, got Zayette to take a goal kick, and then in the final act of the match went down holding his thigh as he cleared the ball.
I read a little earlier on City's OWS that the 'keeper has returned to Arsenal...
Due to the injury sustained in Tuesday's draw against Reading, goalkeeper Vito Mannone has returned to parent club Arsenal to receive treatment and will not be included in City's squad for Saturday's match against Leicester.
We wish Vito a speedy recovery and hope to see him back in action soon.
Gah! He'd been doing really well for us, and I was hoping we might get his time here extended. However, we've moved quickly to find a replacement and it's none other than American chap Brad Guzan, who we've got for a month from Villa.
I read a little earlier on City's OWS that the 'keeper has returned to Arsenal...
Due to the injury sustained in Tuesday's draw against Reading, goalkeeper Vito Mannone has returned to parent club Arsenal to receive treatment and will not be included in City's squad for Saturday's match against Leicester.
We wish Vito a speedy recovery and hope to see him back in action soon.
Gah! He'd been doing really well for us, and I was hoping we might get his time here extended. However, we've moved quickly to find a replacement and it's none other than American chap Brad Guzan, who we've got for a month from Villa.
Providing you don't break him
Still, it'll give Houlier an excuse for being in 15th and now we know the reason Wigan got a late equaliser against Arsenal
Heh. Steven Gerrard's cousin Anthony is on loan with us at the moment, and has leapt to the defence of our medical staff saying via Twitter that they're 'top draw and know there [sic] stuff'. In yer face, Hodgson.Providing you don't break him
I don't want to sound like I'm blindly defending Hodgson, but if we sack him who will take his place? There are a good number of managers floating around jobless at the moment, but none of them are of the caliber I'd want to see at Liverpool. I'm having nightmares about Big Sam....
Guzan is solid, I think he's a Premier League quality keeper. Just keep him healthy for me, ok?
There are a good number of managers floating around jobless at the moment, but none of them are of the caliber I'd want to see at Liverpool. I'm having nightmares about Big Sam....
He's ready, and he's brought his hat with him.
We'll see how he gets on – I suspect he'll be straight into the side to replace Mannone, Pearson (Nigel) doesn't seem to have confidence in Duke other than as an understudy.Guzan is solid, I think he's a Premier League quality keeper. Just keep him healthy for me, ok?
I don't want to sound like I'm blindly defending Hodgson, but if we sack him who will take his place? There are a good number of managers floating around jobless at the moment, but none of them are of the caliber I'd want to see at Liverpool. I'm having nightmares about Big Sam....
Some of the scuttlebutt I've been reading is that they'll bring back Kenny Dalglish. That would be precisely the wrong move for Liverpool. They need some longer-term stability and someone who'll have enough time to rebuild the squad. Firing Woy and bringing in Dalglish reminds me a bit of Newcastle two seasons ago, fumbling about on their way to the drop.
Guzan is solid, I think he's a Premier League quality keeper. Just keep him healthy for me, ok?
Absolutely. That's why it seems so strange to me all the rumors that Villa are shopping for a new keeper to replace Friedel. They have a perfectly good replacement in house already!
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He's ready, and he's brought his hat with him.
We'll see how he gets on I suspect he'll be straight into the side to replace Mannone, Pearson (Nigel) doesn't seem to have confidence in Duke other than as an understudy.
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He's ready, and he's brought his hat with him.
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He's got plenty of experience and I think he's good enough to start. I'd love to see him get a lot of playing time with Hull City. He's 26, so he's probably in peak physical condition with 10+ years left in him between the sticks.
I'm going to stick my neck out a bit and agree with you, Dalglish could become a repeat of the second coming of "King Kev", and we all know how that went. The owners are going to have to walk a very fine line - they must aqcuire a manager of suficcient standing that it silences the calls for Dalglish.
We need a Mourinho, a Hiddink, an Ancelotti, a (grits teeth) Ferguson. If we can't get a manager of that caliber now, we should either stick with Roy until a better man is found or, if people think his immediate sacking is absolutely necessary, get someone in on a short-term contract just to finish the season (though the latter option is fraught with possible pitfalls).
I don't see why they'd get rid of him. He may not be at, say, Pepe Reina's level, but he's quite good and pretty cheap to boot. His one downside is a lack of playing time in league matches, but I am confident he's good enough.
Pah! It was white and worn on the other side of his head, so there.
Ha! watch out for that hat! I just hope Liverpool isn't ringing with the sound of his Harley any time soon.
Sorry, must have been too busy laughing!
Seriously, I really do miss Brown- like the Pullis' trackie/ Mancini's scarf I respect the courage to stand in front of tens of thousands every week with something so characterisable. He's given the world some very happy memories (Humber Bridge, anyone?) but I believe he also did a lot for Hull and his achievement in the Premier league is impressive- its just a shame that the City episode is what's most remembered. Personally, I think he should be given another chance- I mean if Keano's still in a job why's Brown been frozen out for so long?
Seriously, I really do miss Brown- like the Pullis' trackie/ Mancini's scarf I respect the courage to stand in front of tens of thousands every week with something so characterisable. He's given the world some very happy memories (Humber Bridge, anyone?) but I believe he also did a lot for Hull and his achievement in the Premier league is impressive- its just a shame that the City episode is what's most remembered. Personally, I think he should be given another chance- I mean if Keano's still in a job why's Brown been frozen out for so long?
Well, that's the thing – the way I heard it, he bought himself a big shiny Harley as a birthday present with the intention of having a biking holiday (out in France or somewhere) during the close season. Problem is, he bought the bike prior to having his test, which he promptly failed.Ha! watch out for that hat! I just hope Liverpool isn't ringing with the sound of his Harley any time soon.
As for Guzan, hopefully he'll get some playing time but the loan is only for a month. I'm guessing that we'll be looking for a permanent signing during January and Guzan will be covering while we get that sorted – unless of course we look to make his move here permanent, hamstrings permitting.
Jozy was popular here last season of course (despite not getting on the scoresheet as often as he should have done), so I think another American would be welcome. The US does of course have a tradition of producing good keepers, as this archive wartime footage shows. What a save!
The problem is, Brown achieved a great deal here but it's only the negative stuff that's remembered. Granted, he said and did some daft things during his time here but it should also be said that quite a few of those were blown out of all proportion by the media, who didn't take kindly to Brown proving them wrong in their predictions for us.
I can't help but think that the media image he's acquired has hindered his employment prospects, because in pure management terms his achievements here were quite remarkable.
If you're a mid-table Championship club looking for a manager who's proven he's got what it takes to get an unfancied side promoted – and keep them up – you could do a lot worse.
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Well, that's the thing – the way I heard it, he bought himself a big shiny Harley as a birthday present with the intention of having a biking holiday (out in France or somewhere) during the close season. Problem is, he bought the bike prior to having his test, which he promptly failed.
He was probably docked points for not wearing enough fringe leather when he went to take the test. To me, a Harley in the UK would be almost as out of place as a Hummer H2 (and you should be glad for that).
Ideally I'd like to see Guzan get a starting spot in the Premier League, but a good first step would be a starting spot in the Championship, a tough league by any measure. I remain disappointed in Jozy's work at Hull City to a certain extent, but he is still quite young. He's no Balotelli in terms of skill but he also seems to have a better head on his shoulders, so here's hoping he makes better use of his potential. He's only 21 and already has 32 caps for the USA, so I have high hopes.
The whole affair just demonstrates how destructive an environment the Premier League can be. Unless you are relentlessly successful, personality quirks are punishable offenses, and Phil Brown has the misfortune to be something of a character.
Somehow, Hull's failure to establish themselves in the Premier League has been allowed to overshadow the remarkable story of their rise through the league system.
One of those instances where the journey is better than the destination...
Promotion is a bit of a poison chalice, isn't it? Few, if any, clubs in the Championship are really prepared to survive in the Premier League without taking large financial risks.
Indeed, the same could be said for many of the Premier League clubs outside the top four. It's an expensive and precarious existence.
Stop the presses, Joe Cole scored. A good win against a good team, slightly lucky but to see Torres and Cole both scoring is encouraging...
RE: the Becks to Tottenham rumors...if I were a Galaxy fan I'd be sick of him going off and getting hurt elsewhere.
RE: the Becks to Tottenham rumors...if I were a Galaxy fan I'd be sick of him going off and getting hurt elsewhere.
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^ Haha. Bound to happen eventually. Woy manages to keep his job...for now.
On another note, another strong performance from the A team today, even though we rode our luck at times. Still, thats a game Arsenal of previous seasons would normally lose/draw...maybe because Squillaci was dropped today
On another note, another strong performance from the A team today, even though we rode our luck at times. Still, thats a game Arsenal of previous seasons would normally lose/draw...maybe because Squillaci was dropped today
Hey we're not trying to get him on loan, he should be okay.
Ha! Well I wish you would, before he faces Columbus anyway.
Reading up on our new loan 'keeper, I was surprised to see that he's only 26 he looks like he's in his forties.
They must have bloody hard paper rounds in Illinois...
They must have bloody hard paper rounds in Illinois...
Maybe he's going for the Berbatov/Oliver Kahn old man look. I don't know why, but for some reason the USA produces a lot of bald/balding keepers.
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I'm not exactly clear as to why you are so against Kenny when his track record is superb, yet you have always been so for keeping Roy on when he is clearly out of his depth.
Here's Dalglish's record as Liverpool manager - 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st. The second 2nd was that last minute Thomas goal to give Arsenal the title on goals-scored so it could easily have been 4 titles out of 5. And they were even heading for another title in the 6th season when he retired after Hillsborough, so it could have been 5 from 6. How effing brilliant is that? Only Ferguson comes close to that in the modern age. And Ferguson hasn't won the title with two different clubs as Kenny has, which puts him on the same all-time level as only two other managers in history, Chapman and Clough. Seriously, why wouldn't you want that? Dalglish is so good that he was sacked from Newcastle because he drew the first two opening games. He didn't lose, just drew. Two games. That's the massive gulf between the expectations of Dalglish's abilities and Hodgson's. Hodgson is so far lower in expectations so he's been given far far longer rope. Why do you prefer Hodgson over Dalglish? Because he's a nice guy he doesn't deserve his long overdue pink slip?
A bad season for Kenny is getting to the FA Cup Final with Newcastle and losing. This is equal to Hodgson's best ever, getting to the UEFA final and losing. Kenny took over Celtic as late as February in his last stint as a manager and won the Scottish League Cup, like Hiddink did with Chelsea. So he also has the ability to salvage a bad season with an existing squad.
But you know all this already. Liverpool already has their Mourinho and Hiddink that you're wishing for, his name is Dalglish and you don't have to convince him to leave another club because he's already there and loyal. Why don't you want that?
PS. My prediction is Hodgson will reach the long overdue end of the rope and be sacked after Liverpool lose or draw to Blackburn. Even if Liverpool scrape a win, if it's a Gerrard goal or assist it will just look bad as Hodgson being carried by Gerrard. The manager has a say in which players to buy, so that Comollo guy in charge of Liverpool's new player signings in January is clearly cutting Hodgson out of the picture - he'll be buying for the new manager, not the current one. So I wonder who he's getting his advice on as to which players to buy for that purpose, is it Dider Deschamps over in Italy, or perhaps the guy over in the adjoining office of the Liverpool Head of Football Development, otherwise known as one Mr K M Dalglish esq.
I don't know, but I'm glad it did. Early on I was really dsiliking that the two oil-money clubs were taking such an easy and clear lead, so it's been good to see Tottenham move above one them again so a CL spot is not guaranteed for all that oil money.
Who'd a thunk a rich owner would interfere in a smoothly working club, because it's his toy and plaything so he can, and grinds its gears so badly that it's lurching all over the road and can't get back out of first.
I think if anything, it shows how much credit for success may be taken by the people in front of the cameras when it's really due to the work done by the unseen people in the background, like Wilkins. So if Ancelotti was happy to take full public credit for Chelsea's success for Wilkins work there last season, it's only fair that he takes full public credit for their current failures with Wilkins now gone. And which I am glad to see he is, according to the bookies as to which manager will be next to go.
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