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2011-2012 College Football Thread

evilgEEk said:
I want us to go to the Big East just to get out of this terrible TV contract. Talk about a death trap! We need ESPN back on our side. At this point I don't care about AQ status, especially since it might not exist for anyone after 2013. I just want ESPN back. The Big East TV contract will be much better than the ridiculous MWC bull ****, regardless of BCS status.
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I've enjoyed it. Haven't seen that disgusting colored field all season. :p
 
steve2112 said:
They got grandfathered in. The NCAA banned different colored fields after they and some lower division schools changed things, but allowed the schools to keep their fields.
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Actually, there is no rule concerning field/grass/turf color whatsoever, though there is plenty of stuff about the colors of lines, the allowance of logos, etc. Nothing about the playing surface itself, though.

SECTION 2. The Field

Dimensions

ARTICLE 1. The field shall be a rectangular area with dimensions, lines, zones, goals and pylons as indicated and titled in the diagrams on pages FR-18-19.

a. All field-dimension lines shown must be marked 4 inches in width with a white, nontoxic material that is not injurious to the eyes or skin (Exceptions: Sidelines and end lines may exceed 4 inches in width, goal lines may be 4 or 8 inches in width, and Rule 1-2-1-g).
b. Twenty-four-inch short yard-line extensions, four inches inside the sidelines and at the inbounds lines, are mandatory; and all yard lines shall be four inches from the sidelines (Rule 2-11-7).
c. A solid white area between the sideline and the coaching line is mandatory.
d. White field markings or contrasting decorative markings (e.g., logos, team names, emblems, event, etc.) are permissible in the end zones but shall not be closer than four feet to any line.
e. Contrasting coloring in the end zones may abut any line.
f. Contrasting decorative markings are permissible within the sidelines and between the goal lines but shall not obliterate yard lines, goal lines or sidelines.
g. Goal lines may be of one contrasting color from the white lines.
h. Advertising is prohibited on the field [Exceptions: (1) Permitted for any game not played in-season when the sponsor is associated with the name of that game, (2) NCAA Football logo, and (3) If a commercial entity has purchased naming rights to the facility, that name is allowed to be painted on the field; however, the commercial logo is not allowed to be in the field of play].
i. White field yard-line numbers not larger than 6 feet in height and 4 feet in width, with the tops of the numbers nine yards from the sidelines, are recommended.
j. White directional arrows next to the field numbers (except the 50) indicating the direction toward the nearest goal line are recommended.
The arrow is a triangle with an 18-inch base and two sides that are 36 inches each.
k. The two inbounds lines (hash marks) are 60 feet from the sidelines. Inbounds lines and short yard-line extensions shall measure 24 inches in length.
l. Nine-yard marks 12 inches in length, every 10 yards, shall be located nine yards from the sidelines. They are not required if the field is numbered according to Rule 1-2-1-i.


Marking Boundary Areas

ARTICLE 2. Measurements shall be from the inside edges of the boundary markings. The entire width of each goal line shall be in the end zone.


Limit Lines

ARTICLE 3. a. Limit lines shall be marked with 12-inch lines and at 24-inch intervals 12 feet outside the sidelines and the end lines, except in stadiums where total field surface does not permit. In these stadiums, the limit lines shall not be less than six feet from the sidelines and end lines. Limit lines shall be 4 inches in width and may be yellow. Limit lines designating team areas shall be solid lines. No person outside the team area shall be within the limit lines.
b. Limit lines shall also be marked six feet from the team area around the side and back of the team area, if the stadium permits.


Team Area and Coaching Box

ARTICLE 4. a. On each side of the field, a team area in back of the limit line and between the 25-yard lines shall be marked for the exclusive use of substitutes, trainers and other persons affiliated with the team. The front of the coaching box shall be marked with a solid line six feet outside the sideline between the 25-yard lines. The area between the coaching line and the limit line between the 25-yard lines shall contain white diagonal lines or be marked distinctly for use of coaches (Rule 9-1-6-a). A 4-inch-by-4-inch mark is mandatory at each five-yard line extended between the goal lines as an extension of the coaching line for line-to-gain and down indicator six- foot reference points.
b. The team area shall be limited to squad members in full uniform and a maximum of 60 other individuals directly involved in the game. All
persons in the team area are subject to the rules and are governed by decisions of the officials (Rule 1-1-6). “Full uniform” is defined as being equipped in accord with NCAA Football Rules and Interpretations, and ready to play. The 60 individuals not in full uniform shall wear special team area credentials numbered 1 through 60. No other credential is valid for the team area.
c. Coaches are permitted in the area between the limit line and coaching line between the 25-yard lines. This area is the coaching box.
d. Marking the team areas from the 25-yard lines is a game management requirement.
e. No media personnel, including journalists, radio and television personnel, or their equipment, shall be in the team area or coaching box, and no media personnel shall communicate in any way with persons in the team area or coaching box. In stadiums where the team area extends to the spectator seating area, a pass-through area should be made available for media to move from one end of the field to the other on both sides of the field.
f. Game management shall remove all persons not authorized by rule.
g. Practice kicking nets are not permitted outside the team area (Exception: In stadiums where playing enclosures are limited in size, nets, holders and kickers are permitted outside the team area and outside the limit line) (Rule 9-2-1-b-1).


Goals

ARTICLE 5. a. Each goal shall consist of two white or yellow uprights extending at least 30 feet above the ground with a connecting white or yellow horizontal crossbar, the top of which is 10 feet above the ground. The inside of the uprights and crossbar shall be in the same vertical plane as the inside edge of the end line.
b. Above the crossbar, the uprights shall be white or yellow and 18 feet, six inches apart inside to inside.
c. The designated uprights and crossbar shall be free of decorative material (Exception: 4-inch-by-42-inch orange or red wind directional streamers at the top of the uprights are permitted).
d. The height of the crossbar shall be measured from the top of each end of the crossbar to the ground directly below.
e. Goal posts shall be padded with resilient material from the ground to a height of at least six feet. “Offset uprights’’ may be used.
Advertising is prohibited on the goals. One manufacturer’s logo or trademark is permitted on each goal post pad.
f. The following procedure is recommended when one or both goals have been taken down and the original goals are not available for a try or field goal attempt:
A team is entitled to a kicking try and is not required to attempt a two-point play if the goals are not in position or complying with the dimensions required by Rule 1-2-5. A team also is entitled to a field goal attempt under the same conditions.
Kicking tries and field goal attempts must be made in the direction of the goal the team was attacking when it elected to make the kick.
The home team is responsible for the availability of a portable goal if original goals are removed during the game for any reason. The portable goal shall be erected or held in place for the kicks.


Pylons

ARTICLE 6. Soft, flexible four-sided pylons 4 inches by 4 inches with an overall height of 18 inches, which may include a 2-inch space between the bottom of the pylon and the ground, are required. They shall be red or orange in color and placed at the inside corners of the eight intersections of the sidelines with the goal lines and end lines. The pylons marking the intersections of the end lines and inbounds lines extended shall be placed three feet off the end lines.


Line-to-Gain and Down Indicators

ARTICLE 7. The official line-to-gain and down indicators shall be operated approximately six feet outside the sideline opposite the press box, except in stadiums where the total playing enclosure does not permit.
a. If a yardage chain is used, it shall join two rods not less than 5 feet high, the rods’ inside edges being exactly 10 yards apart when the chain is fully extended.
Any other line-to-gain indicator that accurately measures the line to gain is permitted outside the sideline opposite the press box when teams mutually agree. Before the game, the linesman shall test and approve all line-to-gain indicators for accuracy and security.
b. The down indicator shall be mounted on a rod not less than 5 feet high operating approximately six feet outside the sideline opposite the press box.
c. An unofficial auxiliary line-to-gain indicator and an unofficial down indicator six feet outside the other sideline are recommended.
d. Unofficial red or orange nonslip line-to-gain ground markers positioned off the sidelines on both sides of the field are recommended. Markers are rectangular, weighted material 10 inches by 32 inches. A triangle with an altitude of 5 inches is attached to the rectangle at the end toward the sideline.
e. All line-to-gain and down-indicator rods shall have flat ends.
f. Advertising is prohibited on the down and line-to-gain indicators. One manufacturer’s logo or trademark is permitted on each indicator.


Markers or Obstructions

ARTICLE 8. a. All markers and obstructions within the playing enclosure shall be placed or constructed in such a manner as to avoid any possible hazard to players. This includes anything dangerous to anyone at the limit lines. The referee shall order removed any hazardous obstructions or markers located inside the limit lines.
b. Any markers or obstructions within the playing enclosure but outside the limit lines constituting a hazard shall be reported to game management by the referee. Final determination of corrective action shall be the responsibility of game management.


Field Areas

ARTICLE 9. a. No material or device shall be used to improve or degrade the playing surface or other conditions and give one player or team an advantage (Exceptions: Rules 2-15-4-b and c).
PENALTY—Live-ball foul. Five yards from the previous spot [S27].
b. The referee may require any improvement in the field necessary for proper and safe game administration.
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IgnatiusTheKing said:
Actually, there is no rule concerning field/grass/turf color whatsoever, though there is plenty of stuff about the colors of lines, the allowance of logos, etc. Nothing about the playing surface itself, though.
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I just remember the ESPN talking heads discussing it during a game last year. They said something about BSU and a couple of other schools getting grandfathered in before the NCAA changing regs. You think I would have learned to take anything they say with a block of salt, but I guess I'm just a slow learner or something. After all, they seem to have a problem remembering which school they are covering, as most of them routinely mix up us and a certain other school in this state.

Of course, they aren't as bad as the announcers in the CUSA title game last week, who referred to Southern Mississippi as Mississippi State on a couple of occasions.
 
renewed said:
So Houston is playing Penn St.

Guesses on how many injuries and score? :p

And my boys Oklahoma are playing Iowa. woohooo :rolleyes::p
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PSU's offense isn't very good, so they likely won't score many points. Their defense is pretty good, and may hold Houston down. PSU has just been out of it since the whole scandal broke, so I think Houston may actually take this one.

In other weird news, it seems Kansas has hired Charlie Weis for their head coach. If he couldn't win at Notre Dame with their level talent, I wonder how he'll do at Kansas. Then again, Kansas fans don't seem to have the insane expectations of ND fans.
 
Welp, the good news is that I'll be home the last week of December, and so the plan is to drive down to San Diego and attend our purse fight in the Holiday Bowl against Cal. Should be a good time!
 
This just came out of nowhere.

All you need to know about the Mark Richt-to-Texas A&M Aggies rumors that have flourished out of nowhere: the Georgia Bulldogs coach is up for a contract extension after winning the SEC East, and has thus been advised to listen to offers. A&M's delayed hiring Houston Cougars coach Kevin Sumlin for a reason, and if they really think they can swipe Richt, then there you go.
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Uhh...what?
 
Ummmm, no on Richt to A&M
That's just silly talk
There was also talk about Richt to Penn State too... just "talk"
This is fan stuff, and maybe agent stuff to hype things

Richt played at Miami and the 'Canes were thought once to be his only destination (dream job)
That hasn't and won't happen

Richt coached at Florida State, and their was fear in Athens he would return after his success at UGA before Jimbo Fisher
He didn't

Richt has repeatedly stated his desire to be in Athens
And unlike Les Miles or Nick Saban, I believe him when he says so
I think he is a Dawg until such time as his seat truly gets hot and he is fired
He will not bolt to A&M of all places
He is not driven by money, and he has made that abundantly clear

Shocking things have happened before
And I am not saying it is impossible
But I would be totally surprised and disappointed in the man for such a move

PLUS
Florida is down
Tennessee is rotting
Carolina has Lattimore (injured) and little more
He has a rising Junior QB who is the best in the SEC
A nationally ranked defense
And young skill players on offense
He is poised to make a run with a favorable schedule next year
After his 7th 10 win season in 11 years

He is staying
Any talk to the contrary is nonsense
 
Abyssgh0st said:
Thoughts, Ignatius?
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I think Richt might be talking to A&M because Brent Zwerneman, the reporter cited in that article, is the most connected guy when it comes to breaking stuff about A&M sports, so if he's saying it then there's certainly some smoke there.

I doubt Richt really wants to leave UGA, and I agree with MacDawg that it's not really about money either way. It's about sticking it to all the folks in Athens who wanted to fire him the last few years. This move will get him a little extra money but more importantly, it will get him some job security (you don't know what you have until it's [almost] gone).

That being said, if UGA doesn't give him the love he thinks he deserves and doesn't fall all over themselves to keep him, I could see him looking more seriously at A&M, despite all the reasons MacDawg listed.

As for whether or not I want him to be A&M's coach? Not really. Even though he's a damned good coach and he's not old at all (he'll be 52 at the start of next season), it would worry me that this would be a retirement plan for him and he might not have the fire to win that he once did.
 
Most of the hot seat talk was media generated, not so much from the University
I think the UGA leadership knows what they have in Richt
And especially with the scandals found elsewhere
The fan base anywhere is fickle, but winning solves a lot of that

Leaving the East (Gators down, Tennessee sucking, Carolina inconsistent)
With a returning team that is East champs, returning QB, etc
Coming off the best year of recruiting
To play in the West (LSU, Bama, Arkansas, Miles, Saban, Petrino)
At a school with a fan base that thinks they are more than they are (sorry)
This seems a recipe for disaster

I have no doubt A&M would want him, court him or even offer him
Would he go?
That would shock me, literally
I don't think sticking it to a small, but albeit vocal minority of the fan base is on his radar
 
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Dan Wetzel from Yahoo sports has an interesting article on what he calls a college football final four. Basically, it's the "plus one" concept using the bowl games. It's ideal, but it's a step in the right direction. It even keeps those Big 10 and Pac 12 whiners happy about the Rose Bowl. :)

How important can bowl games be? Choosing the wrong one basically just got the AD at Southern Miss fired. That whole situation is weird. Normally, the CUSA champ goes to the Liberty Bowl to face an SEC opponent, but the bowl has some kind of weird clause that depending on the number of SEC bowl teams, they can opt out and take a Big East team. The CUSA champ then can choose from a few different bowls. The Liberty Bowl would have been great for USM, since it's close and would bring more fans. The AD and coach (now going to North Carolina) chose the Hawaii Bowl on Dec. 24, thus ensuring very few fans show up. The players and fans were not happy about this. Now the AD has announced his "retirement", but the university all but said this was a big part of his leaving. So, within a week, the University of Southern Mississippi Fightin' Favres have lost their AD and head coach.


Edit: Usually, it's the students getting a bit rowdy, but check out this video of a huge fight in the luxury suites during the Florida/Florida State game.
 
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steve2112 said:
Dan Wetzel from Yahoo sports has an interesting article on what he calls a college football final four. Basically, it's the "plus one" concept using the bowl games. It's ideal, but it's a step in the right direction. It even keeps those Big 10 and Pac 12 whiners happy about the Rose Bowl. :)
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A step in the right direction, but in the end, I think an eight-team playoff is the best solution. Here's how my system would work:

1. We would rank the top eight teams that go to the playoff in BCS-like ranking, but we would drop the Coaches Poll and replace it the AP poll (the Harris Interactive poll stays in place). The poll weighting will be 50% computers, 25% AP poll and 25% Harris poll.

2. #1 hosts #8, #2 hosts #7, #3 hosts #6 and #4 hosts #5 in the quarterfinals on the first Saturday in December at the home stadiums of the higher-ranked teams.

3. The winning four teams are ranked again the day after the quarterfinal games before #1 plays #4 and #2 plays #3.

4. We will use the current BCS bowl games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange) for the semifinal and final games.

5. The semifinal games will be played on New Year's Day. The final will be played eight days afterward. (In my first year scenario, the semfinals will be the Sugar and Orange Bowl games, and the final will be the Rose Bowl game.)

My method has one HUGE advantage: it will not interfere with college exam finals during the third week of December. That right there will make this playoff scheme much more acceptable to college presidents.
 
ppilone said:
Serious question - are you upset with the Sugar Bowl because Boise wasn't picked or that VT/Michigan were?
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Both.

dmr727 said:
I think Boise St. and USC should give the middle finger to everyone and find some money to create their own bowl game. I'd watch that!
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That would be awesome!! :D

renewed said:
I've enjoyed it. Haven't seen that disgusting colored field all season. :p
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Quit...

mcrain said:
The Big East should require that they change that stupid field.
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Yer...

renewed said:
Seriously. I don't understand it. I would think the fields would all have to be the same due to some NCAA regulations.
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Whinin'...



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