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As expected, Mark Richt apparently got the love and attention he wanted from UGA and told A&M, "Thanks but no thanks." Kevin Sumlin (as I'd hoped) appears to be the guy at A&M and could be announced as early as today.

I'm happy.
 
As expected, Mark Richt apparently got the love and attention he wanted from UGA and told A&M, "Thanks but no thanks." Kevin Sumlin (as I'd hoped) appears to be the guy at A&M and could be announced as early as today.

I'm happy.

I think leverage can be advantageous, and it is aways nice when other programs come calling
But I don't think there was ever any serious danger of Richt going to A&M
That is not a knock on A&M
But the Dawgs' situation is pretty good right now as I have stated above

If Richt had lost to the Gators, missed the East championship and lost to Tech
Then maybe the seat would have gotten much hotter
Even then, not sure he would have left on his own
But under that scenario, A&M likely would not have come calling anyway

Heisman predictions?
Word is, it is very close

My vote would be Richardson
But I am not sure he wins
 
I think leverage can be advantageous, and it is aways nice when other programs come calling
But I don't think there was ever any serious danger of Richt going to A&M
That is not a knock on A&M

I didn't think there was ever a legit chance of Richt leaving for A&M, but I do believe there was talk between the two parties as part of a shrewd move by Richt's people to get a more advantageous deal with UGA.

The only way he was ever coming to A&M was if UGA didn't give him the love and attention his ego demanded. All coaches have big egos and Richt's had to have been a little bruised after all the firing talk the last couple of years (and earlier this season after the 0-2 start), regardless of where it came from.

Of course, I'm stoked that Sumlin is the guy. I hope he hires a great DC (or even keeps DeRuyter and just one or two other guys). I was never terribly interested in Richt for two reasons: 1) because I never thought he was a serious candidate and 2) because, if he did come to A&M, it would have been a retirement plan. No thanks.

Heisman predictions?
Word is, it is very close

My vote would be Richardson
But I am not sure he wins

Heisman Badger should win it but won't. Montee Ball is the best of the remaining candidates but I have a sneaking suspicion that RG3 will become the first Heisman winner to have suffered two regular season 25+ point blowout defeats.
 
I didn't think there was ever a legit chance of Richt leaving for A&M, but I do believe there was talk between the two parties as part of a shrewd move by Richt's people to get a more advantageous deal with UGA.

The only way he was ever coming to A&M was if UGA didn't give him the love and attention his ego demanded. All coaches have big egos and Richt's had to have been a little bruised after all the firing talk the last couple of years (and earlier this season after the 0-2 start), regardless of where it came from.

Apparently this was not the case

Georgia football coach Mark Richt expressed Saturday his gratification over UGA's desire to extend his contract and intimated that, contrary to reports in Texas, he did not speak with Texas A&M about its coaching job.

"I've said many times Georgia is the place I want to be as long as Georgia will have me. That has never changed," Richt said in a statement. "And it's gratifying to know Georgia wants me.

"I have not talked to any other school about a job, nor do I have any interest in doing so. My interest is having a great recruiting year and start building toward next season."

A report Friday in the San Antonio Express-News and Houston Chronicle, citing an unnamed source, said Richt was "in the mix" for the Texas A&M job. The papers reported Saturday that Richt declined A&M's job offer.

UGA athletic director Greg McGarity met with Richt on Friday to open discussions about extending the coach's contract, which has two years remaining. McGarity said the meeting was planned before the A&M reports, which McGarity dismissed.

McGarity said he had not been contacted by A&M athletic director Bill Byrne, and he would have been if the Aggies were pursuing Richt.
 
College football is starting to piss me off with all this tv deal driven conference alignment.

I hate espn

ESPN has been the death of college football.
Big 12 fall apart I blame heavily on ESPN and the money deals and what is worse is not one cent of that money goes back into the school. No instead we get fee increases to pay for upgrades to the stadiums but the millions in profit the sports teams get does nothing to reduce our tuition and fees.
 
AKA: Montee Ball didn't win.

Montee Ball had a great season, but RG3 really changed a team that's been **** for decades into a respectable squad.

As a long time Baylor fan (yes, we exist!), I'm genuinely thrilled for him. Such a phenomenal athlete, scholar, and representative of the university. He deserves the hell out of this award for one of the best seasons Baylor has ever seen (easily the most amazing I've seen in 12 years of being a Baylor Bear).

If he doesn't stay another year, I'd love to see him go to the Chiefs. I want to see him do the same thing in KC. :D
 
Of course, I'm stoked that Sumlin is the guy. I hope he hires a great DC (or even keeps DeRuyter and just one or two other guys). I was never terribly interested in Richt for two reasons: 1) because I never thought he was a serious candidate and 2) because, if he did come to A&M, it would have been a retirement plan. No thanks.



Heisman Badger should win it but won't. Montee Ball is the best of the remaining candidates but I have a sneaking suspicion that RG3 will become the first Heisman winner to have suffered two regular season 25+ point blowout defeats.

1) RGIII doesn't play defense.

2) After the repeated collapses in the second half this season, why would you WANT to keep the same DC? Sure the O caused a lot of the misery with turnovers and inability to score in the second half, but the other teams scored a bunch of points on that defense in those comebacks.

3) Retirement plans aren't bad. We were Jackie Sherrill's retirement plan, and I'm glad we had him (except those last two years). Had he walked away in 2001 or especially after 2000 and that awesome Snow Bowl (sorry about that one), we would have built a statue of him outside our stadium.
AKA: Montee Ball didn't win.

Montee Ball had a great season, but RG3 really changed a team that's been **** for decades into a respectable squad.

THIS^^
 
1) RGIII doesn't play defense.

RG3 completely disappeared in the first half against OSU and the second half against A&M, two blowout losses in which he didn't give his team any chance to win despite putting up some meaningless numbers. Name one other Heisman-winning QB who has failed so miserably in key situations that led to blowout losses.

He's a great player and a great kid by all accounts, but you should have to perform better than that in every game to win the Heisman.

Luck had a better season. So did Montee Ball, Trent Richardson and especially Heisman Badger.

2) After the repeated collapses in the second half this season, why would you WANT to keep the same DC? Sure the O caused a lot of the misery with turnovers and inability to score in the second half, but the other teams scored a bunch of points on that defense in those comebacks.

The defense wasn't very good this year, but if you'd watched all the games you would know that they played well enough to win in all of them, despite having tons of injuries and losing the best defensive player in the college football last year (and possibly in the NFL this year) and starting ILB/team captain/team leader.

DeRuyter is a damned good coach, and I'd be interested to see what he could do with some new position coaches (that he picked) and an offense that used its best resources to kill the other team's will (great OL and RBs) AND didn't constantly shoot itself in the face at the worst possible time.

Despite that, I'm not sure he'll be retained. The rumor de jour is that Sumlin's buddy Mike Stoops is going to get the call, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

3) Retirement plans aren't bad. We were Jackie Sherrill's retirement plan, and I'm glad we had him (except those last two years). Had he walked away in 2001 or especially after 2000 and that awesome Snow Bowl (sorry about that one), we would have built a statue of him outside our stadium.

Jackie was a great coach and had some decent seasons at MSU, but I expect better than 7-5/8-4. I think Sumlin can deliver that consistently; I'm not at all sure Richt would.
 
RG3 completely disappeared in the first half against OSU and the second half against A&M, two blowout losses in which he didn't give his team any chance to win despite putting up some meaningless numbers. Name one other Heisman-winning QB who has failed so miserably in key situations that led to blowout losses.

He's a great player and a great kid by all accounts, but you should have to perform better than that in every game to win the Heisman.

Luck had a better season. So did Montee Ball, Trent Richardson and especially Heisman Badger.

I admit I didn't watch many of their games, as B12 games are rare around here. (Except for freakin' Texas. It seems like the only B12 games ABC shows around here are Texas) I admit I was shocked by Griffin winning. Given the massive hype, I fully expected Luck to win, despite not even being the best QB in his own division. We all knew Matheiu wouldn't win because he didn't play offense. Defense and special teams will not get you the Heisman. With Ball, I saw an interesting comment on him. Some schools are known to produce "system QBs" with huge numbers. Wisconsin has system RBs: Huge numbers are a common occurance.

The defense wasn't very good this year, but if you'd watched all the games you would know that they played well enough to win in all of them, despite having tons of injuries and losing the best defensive player in the college football last year (and possibly in the NFL this year) and starting ILB/team captain/team leader.

Perception is reality in this case. A&M gave up 27 second half points to OSU, 25 to Arkansas, 21 to Mizzou, 28 to OU, etc. Granted, in most of those games the offense disappeared and had mistakes that led to those points, but people just see the huge numbers and blame defense. Statistically, the defense was middle of the road at #66 in total defense. More telling to me is that A&M was in the bottom 20 in the country in turnover margin.




Jackie was a great coach and had some decent seasons at MSU, but I expect better than 7-5/8-4. I think Sumlin can deliver that consistently; I'm not at all sure Richt would.

OK, don't take this the wrong way, but I have always found A&M fans to be a bit delusional. Not nearly as bad as say, Ole Miss fans, but it's still there. 60% all time winning percentage, 18 conference titles (with the majority of them coming during the Sherrill and Slocum eras), and one national title. While those are all nice, and I would sacrifice body parts for MSU to have those kinds of numbers, it's not on the same level as elite teams (historically) like Michigan, Texas, etc. A 31% winning percentage vs. Texas, and a 40% clip in bowl games indicates a program not on the same level. At a 60% win rate, A&M historically is a 7-8 win team.

I'm not slamming A&M. I love the history, tradition, and school colors of A&M. Hell, we were Mississippi A&M for years, so I feel a kindred spirit there. But I think A&M fans believe they are better than they have historically been in reality.
 
I expect better than 7-5/8-4. I think Sumlin can deliver that consistently; I'm not at all sure Richt would.

Richt's 11 seasons at UGA in the SEC

Record = 106-37
Winning percentage =.741
10 win seasons = 7 out of 11
4 SEC East Championships
2 SEC Championships
9 Top 25 finishes
5 Top 10 finishes
2 Top 5 finishes
11 straight bowl games (counting this year)
7-3 bowl record
2 time SEC Coach of the Year

What is Sumlin's resume again?

Richt has never gotten the credit he deserved
He coached in an era of Gator dominance with Tebow
and Miles, Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, Petrino, et. al. are far more colorful and quotable

But you are right, he is not likely to be able to do that at A&M
I don't think anyone will
Playing in the West with LSU, Alabama, Auburn and Arkansas
I would say your 7-5 and 8-4 seasons will be your high point

Welcome to the SEC
 
Perception is reality in this case. A&M gave up 27 second half points to OSU, 25 to Arkansas, 21 to Mizzou, 28 to OU, etc. Granted, in most of those games the offense disappeared and had mistakes that led to those points, but people just see the huge numbers and blame defense. Statistically, the defense was middle of the road at #66 in total defense. More telling to me is that A&M was in the bottom 20 in the country in turnover margin.

Like I said, the defense was not good but there were some good things. We led the nation in sacks and were 13th in run D. In almost every loss, it was the defense as much as the offense that set up the big leads in the first place, but untimely (as if there's ever a good time) turnovers and an unwillingness by the Sherman offense to grind the ball and kill clock in the second half put the defense in hole after hole.

Go back and look at the stats in the OU game. Yeah the score got completely out of hand in the third quarter, the way it happened was not on the defense at all. OU had TD drives of 31, 28, 69 and 39 yards. A&M, on the other hand, had drives of five plays for 19 yards (punt), three plays for -3 yards (punt), four plays for 15 yards (interception), three plays for 8 yards (punt), one play for 0 yards (interception), ten plays for 56 yards (missed FG) and five plays for 16 yards (punt). Several of those punts were for ~20 yards.

Few defenses will hold up under those circumstances. So like I said, while the D wasn't good this year, a lot of the superficial stats make them look far worse than they actually were. Playing much of the season without half—the best half—of the starting secondary, while not an excuse, also played a huge factor.


OK, don't take this the wrong way, but I have always found A&M fans to be a bit delusional. Not nearly as bad as say, Ole Miss fans, but it's still there. 60% all time winning percentage, 18 conference titles (with the majority of them coming during the Sherrill and Slocum eras), and one national title. While those are all nice, and I would sacrifice body parts for MSU to have those kinds of numbers, it's not on the same level as elite teams (historically) like Michigan, Texas, etc. A 31% winning percentage vs. Texas, and a 40% clip in bowl games indicates a program not on the same level. At a 60% win rate, A&M historically is a 7-8 win team.

I'm not slamming A&M. I love the history, tradition, and school colors of A&M. Hell, we were Mississippi A&M for years, so I feel a kindred spirit there. But I think A&M fans believe they are better than they have historically been in reality.

There is a lot of truth to what you say, but you also have to remember that I grew up watching Aggie football in the 80s and 90s, when we won six conference titles, averaged 9+ wins per year (in a time when playing 11 games was the norm) and almost never lost at home (55-4-1 at Kyle Field in the 90s, including a 31-game winning streak).

So yeah, maybe my expectations are unrealistic, but they were built on what I watched growing up, not what my dad watched when he was a boy (when A&M was a tiny military college that rarely won more than 3-4 games in a season between WWII and the mid-70s).



Richt's 11 seasons at UGA in the SEC

Record = 106-37
Winning percentage =.741
10 win seasons = 7 out of 11
4 SEC East Championships
2 SEC Championships
9 Top 25 finishes
5 Top 10 finishes
2 Top 5 finishes
11 straight bowl games (counting this year)
7-3 bowl record
2 time SEC Coach of the Year

What is Sumlin's resume again?

Richt has never gotten the credit he deserved
He coached in an era of Gator dominance with Tebow
and Miles, Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, Petrino, et. al. are far more colorful and quotable

But you are right, he is not likely to be able to do that at A&M
I don't think anyone will
Playing in the West with LSU, Alabama, Auburn and Arkansas
I would say your 7-5 and 8-4 seasons will be your high point

Welcome to the SEC

Easy! I wasn't taking a shot at Richt's abilities, but like I've said countless times, if he leaves UGA it will be because he's got his feelings hurt and he's looking for a golden parachute somewhere else. Most coaches don't do terribly well in those sorts of situations.
 
Wow, I bet the Sugar Bowl is really glad they took Va. Tech. Their fan support is amazing. So amazing that they have barely sold half their tickets and are begging fans to buy more tickets. I also seem to recall this happening to them a couple of times in the past. But no, the Sugar Bowl didn't want those small market, non-AQ teams. Have fun in that half-empty Superdome.
 
Richt's 11 seasons at UGA in the SEC

Record = 106-37
Winning percentage =.741
10 win seasons = 7 out of 11
4 SEC East Championships
2 SEC Championships
9 Top 25 finishes
5 Top 10 finishes
2 Top 5 finishes
11 straight bowl games (counting this year)
7-3 bowl record
2 time SEC Coach of the Year

What is Sumlin's resume again?

Richt has never gotten the credit he deserved
He coached in an era of Gator dominance with Tebow
and Miles, Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, Petrino, et. al. are far more colorful and quotable

But you are right, he is not likely to be able to do that at A&M
I don't think anyone will
Playing in the West with LSU, Alabama, Auburn and Arkansas
I would say your 7-5 and 8-4 seasons will be your high point

Welcome to the SEC

Richt is a very good coach.

IgnatiusTheKing - i don't see any clothes yer majesty...
 
Wow, I bet the Sugar Bowl is really glad they took Va. Tech. Their fan support is amazing. So amazing that they have barely sold half their tickets and are begging fans to buy more tickets. I also seem to recall this happening to them a couple of times in the past. But no, the Sugar Bowl didn't want those small market, non-AQ teams. Have fun in that half-empty Superdome.

I really hope the media (read: ESPN) reports this every chance they get! ...of course I doubt they will.
 
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