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Before it was sooo.... hard. My wrist still hurts from dragging one single file to the Applications folder. Oh, and I just love having to pay sales tax on the apps. :rolleyes:

I don't hate the Mac App store, I just don't think it should be a factor in the award. With that said, its Apples award and they can do as they please with it, including making acceptance of onerous terms a prerequisite to compete.
It's a hell of a lot easier updating your apps and re-installing applications through the Mac App Store than any previous method. You don't have to check every single app on your machine to see if it's updated, nor do you have to go to the developers website if they don't have an automatic updater or even a manual updater.
 
I can't see how people can vote this negative...

The App Stores are Apple's thing. Why can't they award the best apps on those stores?

Seems like a good idea to me. :)
 
When was the last time a standards setting, headline grabbing, everyone's gotta have it Mac application created?
 
What did you think they would do, rummage through all the non-app store apps on the Mac platform? Lol, some people are ridiculous.
 
Because not being eligible for an award ranks right up there with freedom of speech. :rolleyes:

I think you're missing the point that it was Apple, not Jaymes, who invoked 1984 first. Now, if you want to claim that forcing developers who want to be eligible for one of the most prestigious awards to post their apps to the Mac App store is not Orwellian, then you have every right to say such. I, and I am sure many other application developers, will disagree with you.

The Mac App store clearly demonstrates Apple's intent to drive the Mac towards as closed of a system as possible, not just for the OS, but for software as well (sort of like the iPad).

Let's also not forget that the Mac App store work great in a consumer world, not such a great idea in the enterprise and non-profit worlds where licenses tend to be owned by the employer. With the Mac App store, apps are owned by the individual. It makes business sense for Apple but not for the organization who will be purchasing.
 
What exactly is a 'hater'? Someone that disagrees with the company line? Someone with a dissenting opinion?

Consultant is the opposite of a hater which is just as bad really. Apple can do no wrong in his eyes, I think he's in love with Steve Jobs or something.
 
Perfectly reasonable to expect an "Apple Design Award" winner to be available in the App Store. It's Apple's award to give.
 
What did you think they would do, rummage through all the non-app store apps on the Mac platform? Lol, some people are ridiculous.

Are you new to the design awards? They have existed for years without the App Store. It used to to be that you would submit your app to Apple prior to WWDC. Why would an App Store be required?
 
Eh, they could do with renaming this award ceremony. "App Store Award"? It's hardly "Apple Design Awards" if they're excluding a lot of those developers.
 
It's a hell of a lot easier updating your apps and re-installing applications through the Mac App Store than any previous method. You don't have to check every single app on your machine to see if it's updated, nor do you have to go to the developers website if they don't have an automatic updater or even a manual updater.

I'll give it does have advantages. I don't think I would agree that it is "a hell of a lot easier", as most apps have an automatic updater or some mechanism to make you aware that an update is available.

The Mac App store updating mechanism is flawed, at least in my experience. For example, a few days ago the Mac App Store did not detect that I had the app Awaken 4 on my mac, even thought they host Awaken 5 on the store. I had to go to the developers website and download Awaken 5 and then update it the old fashioned way.
 
Good. I'm all in favor of Apple adding more incentives for devs to embrace the Mac App store. As a consumer I really like the idea of an App Store that makes buying and installing as easy as one click as well as fostering competition between comparable apps.

The Mac AppStore is SJ's wet dream - the closest that he'll get to controlling the platform - just like iOS.

Realistically, OSX cannot become totally closed.

Unfortunately, due to Apple's rules people will never know of the gems that are out there that cannot be included on the Mac AppStore... because they'll be brainwashed into thinking MacAppstore is the only way to get apps - outside of various retail stores.

The MacApp store would be more useful if Apple were to dropped its dracion rules. Some of its rules are wrthwhile having, but others... ugh.

It's a hell of a lot easier updating your apps and re-installing applications through the Mac App Store than any previous method. You don't have to check every single app on your machine to see if it's updated, nor do you have to go to the developers website if they don't have an automatic updater or even a manual updater.

I, like many people, had a hard time getting XCode 4.00 to be upgraded to XCode 4.01. AppStore simply wouldn't recognize that I had previously purchased XCode 4 (yes, I had the XCode installer in /applications ). Downloading outside of the appstore would have been vastly easier...
 
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No kidding. It's like Columbia Records giving out awards to its most innovative musicians, and all the musicians from Sony Music start complaining that they aren't eligible to receive one. :confused:

It's not anyone's "right" to be in the running for any awards. Sheesh.

+1

Why awards at all? An American disease carried into all cultures of the world!

If something or somebody is good, they get the award(s) they deserve: and want most of all:

$$$ in the bank.

And those awards are not based on any committees opinion or mercy Susan Lucci award types for being in something forever!.

It's consumers who buy your stuff because it's good!

And the$e awards never catch dust:)
 
Are you new to the design awards? They have existed for years without the App Store. It used to to be that you would submit your app to Apple prior to WWDC. Why would an App Store be required?

In other words, it is now more fair to everyone because you just need to be in the App Store rather than having to submit your app specifically to be considered.
 
In other words, it is now more fair to everyone because you just need to be in the App Store rather than having to submit your app specifically to be considered.

Why not both methods? Hardly rocket science. This is a way to 'encourage' developers to list their apps.
 
I'll give it does have advantages. I don't think I would agree that it is "a hell of a lot easier", as most apps have an automatic updater or some mechanism to make you aware that an update is available.

The Mac App store updating mechanism is flawed, at least in my experience. For example, a few days ago the Mac App Store did not detect that I had the app Awaken 4 on my mac, even thought they host Awaken 5 on the store. I had to go to the developers website and download Awaken 5 and then update it the old fashioned way.
I, like many people, had a hard time getting XCode 4.00 to be upgraded to XCode 4.01. AppStore simply wouldn't recognize that I had previously purchased XCode 4 (yes, I had the XCode installer in /applications ). Downloading outside of the appstore would have been vastly easier...


I never said it was perfect. If you have many apps as I do that DON'T have automatic updates then it is a royal pain in the ass to go to their site(assuming you even know where it is), download it again, unpackage the dmg, and place it in my applications folder. Sure, if you only have a few apps then it isn't THAT bad but I have upwards to 20 apps that I have to do this with. It's a chore. With the Mac App Store I can take a quick glance, click update all if there are any updates and be done with it.
 
I don't think people realize that there are many technical limitations on what can/can't be submitted to the app store. There are some incredible apps, that by their very nature, really can't be submitted to the app store because of how they work and the kinds of things they do.

The Apple Design Awards have been the equivalent of the Academy Awards for Mac developers. This announcement radically reduces the significance of these awards. Hopefully new awards will be created that recognize the absolute best apps available on OSX, regardless of which distribution model(s) the use. Perhaps Macrumors will step up to the plate?
 
In other words, it is now more fair to everyone because you just need to be in the App Store rather than having to submit your app specifically to be considered.

In other words, it's less fair to everyone, because you have to fork over $0.30 of every $1.00 you make to Apple in order to be part of the Mac App store just to be in the running for the design award.

It's going to be interesting to see if open-source products win any awards whatsoever this year. In the past, several have brought home awards.

But I digress, as the new Big Brother on the block, I had almost forgot that "Apple knows best".
 
Welcome to 1984.

Let me preface this by saying my household has alot of Apple products. I'm not an Apple hater.
  • My MacBook
  • My wife's MacBook Air
  • My iPhone
  • My wife's iPhone
  • Our Apple TV
  • 2 of my kids have 4th gen iPod Touches
  • Plus a closet full of old iPods, my old MessagePad 100, G3/G4/G5 Macs and even our old, old Peforma 575

I like Apple, Apple products, & Steve Jobs. I like the AppStore on both iOS and OS X & I understand their vertical ecosystem. However, Apple is becoming more and more like the IBM they advertised against. Everyone in line, doing it the one way you are allowed to do it, all doing the same thing. I guess its inevitable when a company gets so big.
 
Apple does not offer all of its own apps in the app store. Is Final Cut Studio in the app store?

This requirement will have two effects

(1) make the award irrelevant because everyone will know that the best apps were not even in the race and
(2) Shows that Apple is greedy by asking others to do what they don't.
 
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