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2011 Formula 1 Thread

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Woot! That means I can download it and actually read the standings AS WELL AS actually seeing how the car is behaving!!!

I actually would like to have DC as a commentator. I much enjoy Brundle, and if given the chance, DC is quite funny, but you have to catch it. I hope Brundle stops explaining the rules over and over and over and over.... please go deeper into what the teams are working on, or the strategy. The F1 fan should already know that O= oversteer ;-) Explain why they use 13in wheels vs lo-pros as seen in LeMans, and what the pros/cons are. I sure don't see crazy amounts of sidewall flex in the slow mo, especially given the Gs experienced.... Explain the gas valves used to let these engines rev to 18-21k rpm. I'm not new to road racing in general eh? Now if I could only email this to Brundle...

BTW what's a good F1/ race engineering magazine to subscribe to? I am getting to be jealous of Spookthehamsters understanding ;-)
 
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rezenclowd3 said:
BTW what's a good F1/ race engineering magazine to subscribe to? I am getting to be jealous of Spookthehamsters understanding ;-)
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Racecar Engineering

http://www.racecar-engineering.com

Look for it at Borders - great engineering/technical magazine.

SpookTheHamster said:
The actions of Group Lotus annoy me here. Why didn't they buy into the current Lotus team? Lotus Racing really did themselves proud as a new team, and next year with a more competitive engine/gearbox should do even better.

By buying into Renault, they're just opening up a world of confusion and forcing a well liked team into obscurity when they have to change their name.
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Because they're flat broke and have been for a while now. It's the same reason that they sold their name years ago.
 
rezenclowd3 said:
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BTW what's a good F1/ race engineering magazine to subscribe to? I am getting to be jealous of Spookthehamsters understanding ;-)
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codymac said:
Racecar Engineering

http://www.racecar-engineering.com

Look for it at Borders - great engineering/technical magazine.
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The best one I've read on F1 is F1 Racing. It's a british publication, but there is a US distributor for it. I used to subscribe, but let it lapse. IIRC, it was about $75/year.
 
RaceTripper said:
The best one I've read on F1 is F1 Racing. It's a british publication, but there is a US distributor for it. I used to subscribe, but let it lapse. IIRC, it was about $75/year.
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Check out the one I mentioned - I think you (in particular) would really like it. It's British as well, has a very heavy engineering slant to it, and doesn't limit itself to F1.

A good friend who's a mechanical engineer and an auto enthusiast turned me onto it.
 
codymac said:
Check out the one I mentioned - I think you (in particular) would really like it. It's British as well, has a very heavy engineering slant to it, and doesn't limit itself to F1.

A good friend who's a mechanical engineer and an auto enthusiast turned me onto it.
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Thanks. I have seen it before. I just wanted to throw out F1 Racing as it's the major publication aimed towards F1 specifically.

I used to also subscribe to Autosport (51 issues/year). It's a great (British) weekly rag about motorsports in general. Obviously, it has a European slant, and only some coverage of American motorsports. It's $200+/year.
 
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Just seen that this will be in HD this year :D taken the FIA/FOA/FOM (bascially eveyone lol) long enough :p

I just hope the BBC don't **** this up as they have done in the past with other SD/HD broadcasts (being terrible quality). If it is horrid on BBC guess I'll have to find Rai HD or TF1 HD on the Satellite box ;)
 
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If proof were ever needed, the "Lotus vs Lotus" subplot keeps on rumbling on. The latest edition of Autosport comes with a poster of a Lotus Renault on one side, and a Lotus Europa ... in green. With 2 yellow stripes down the bonnet. We get the hint guys. ;)

PS: Also interesting article on CFD and Virgin. Will be interesting to see how they go this year.

PPS: New Ferrari F150 released. No need for a picture, as the only difference visually is the new Marlboro Ferrari logo on the sidepod, and the Italian flag on the rear wing. They don't even have a pull-rod suspension.
 
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Renault's Robert Kubica has been hospitalised after a high speed rally crash. :eek:

I bet that's not going go down too well with his bosses with the new season kicking off in 5 weeks time.
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I just came here to mention this. Fractured arm and leg, hopefully not serious enough for him to be away for too long. I don't rate Renault's chances with Petrov and Senna as their line-up. Their car looks way too good for those two.
 
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I just came here to mention this. Fractured arm and leg, hopefully not serious enough for him to be away for too long. I don't rate Renault's chances with Petrov and Senna as their line-up. Their car looks way too good for those two.
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I would assume that with a proper recovery he'll be out for a while. Depending on the injury, he's likely to have a rotator cuff injury, which would mean at least 6 weeks in a sling followed by a similar period for physio. Surgery would speed the healing process of the bone, but not the muscle which would cause the most problems. I think we're talking a Valentino Rossi length of stay off. It will be interesting to see which of their three test drivers takes the seat, but I imagine Bruno is favourite.
 
MOFS said:
I would assume that with a proper recovery he'll be out for a while. Depending on the injury, he's likely to have a rotator cuff injury, which would mean at least 6 weeks in a sling followed by a similar period for physio. Surgery would speed the healing process of the bone, but not the muscle which would cause the most problems. I think we're talking a Valentino Rossi length of stay off. It will be interesting to see which of their three test drivers takes the seat, but I imagine Bruno is favourite.
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The loads in F1 are high in terms of G forces, but MotoGP is much more physical for the riders. Autosport has him down as hurting his right (throttle) leg, which applies a much lower load than his left (braking) leg. We'll see what his hand and arm are like, as the steering load can be quite high. 10 weeks would have him missing 4 races. It's a long season this year though, so he'll hopefully be back in time to have a good championship.

From Autosport: "team principal Eric Boullier made it clear last week that Bruno Senna would be his number one choice to slot into a race seat - because he is the one with the most contemporary F1 experience."

However, they also make this (as yet unsubstantiated) comment in a later article on Kubica's condition: "Renault will likely call on reserve driver Bruno Senna to fill in in the short term, but the team could opt for a more experienced driver if Kubica faces a more lengthy lay-off."
 
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The loads in F1 are high in terms of G forces, but MotoGP is much more physical for the riders. Autosport has him down as hurting his right (throttle) leg, which applies a much lower load than his left (braking) leg. We'll see what his hand and arm are like, as the steering load can be quite high. 10 weeks would have him missing 4 races. It's a long season this year though, so he'll hopefully be back in time to have a good championship.

From Autosport: "team principal Eric Boullier made it clear last week that Bruno Senna would be his number one choice to slot into a race seat - because he is the one with the most contemporary F1 experience."

However, they also make this (as yet unsubstantiated) comment in a later article on Kubica's condition: "Renault will likely call on reserve driver Bruno Senna to fill in in the short term, but the team could opt for a more experienced driver if Kubica faces a more lengthy lay-off."
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If they do get an external driver, I do feel that would make a mockery of the entire thing. If you think he's worth having as a reserve driver, he should be good enough to have as a replacement driver. IMHO I think either Bruno Senna or Romain Grosjean could do a reasonable job given an opportunity. Quick Nick suddenly finding a seat would be a travesty to the whole business, and actually Force India have done a sterling job in promoting Di Resta despite the cost to the team.
 
Robert came close to getting his hand amputated, but they don't know yet how functional it will be. There is also question about whether he has caused permanent damage to a previous fracture. Both of these issues are potentially F1 career ending. http://bit.ly/gyUSsp
 
according to some german news outlets they don't even know yet if they can save his right hand from amputation, so speculation regarding how many races he will miss might not be that important right now
 
takao said:
according to some german news outlets they don't even know yet if they can save his right hand from amputation, so speculation regarding how many races he will miss might not be that important right now
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Not good. An unfortunate injury, but another one that'll make F1 bosses looking into banning these extra-curricular activities for their drivers.
 
takao said:
according to some german news outlets they don't even know yet if they can save his right hand from amputation, so speculation regarding how many races he will miss might not be that important right now
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It has already been confirmed by multiple sources the hand will not be amputated. The function of it is in question.
 
Don't panic said:
apparently he risked amputation of both hands.
luckily they saved them, but i think that it's very likely his career might be at risk. hopefully he'll be back at full speed in 2012.
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There haven't been any reports of any injuries to his left hand so I don't know where you've heard that. :confused:

The latest news is he has been put into an induced coma and his condition is described as 'stable but serious'.
 
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but i think that it's very likely his career might be at risk.
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I suspect that's likely, given the levels of dexterity needed to drive a modern F1 car, it's difficult to imagine him ever having the required level of movement again, I know the injury is different to that of Alessandro Nannini, but I think the outcome is likely to be the same, sadly.

Having seen some of the photos of his car though... :eek: he's extremely lucky that he's still literally in one piece.
 
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i had read it on multiple places, but i am glad to know it was not as severe, as it certainly bodes a bit better for a full recovery.
good luck to him.
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Unfortunately, it appears the damage is as bad as it can get without being life-threatening. Speaking as a member of the medical profession, it appears he has severed (or at least greatly damaged) the nerve supply to his hand. As you'll know from spinal injuries, nerves don't recover too well, and so require prolonged periods of rehab before getting up to full working order. On an aside, severing of the arteries in your arm [you can feel the pulses either side of your wrist] would have been a similar worry at the time due to the close proximity, but it appears they are intact and hopefully his hand will survive.

In other news, Virgin released their new car. I for one am intrigued as to how they progress. The car appears actually most like the Mclaren with the long nose, but I am interested to see how they progress as they get up to speed with the CFD.
 
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