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F = the first letter of both Ford and Ferrari. Has anyone ever successfully held a copyright on a letter?

- = dash. Really???

150 = a number. Has anyone ever successfully held a copyright on a number?

This has no merit.

The logos are very similar...

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F = the first letter of both Ford and Ferrari. Has anyone ever successfully held a copyright on a letter?

- = dash. Really???

150 = a number. Has anyone ever successfully held a copyright on a number?

This has no merit.

Except of course it is the combination of all of the above to one specific string.

So it is not just a letter, a dash, and a number. :rolleyes:
 
It's now the official name for the new car.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89384

good, no use in getting dogged down in a futile dispute.
the first time i heard they were calling it the F150 i laughed, but i thought that ford would be pleased/amused by the situation and i was already imagining the appearance of bright red trucks with wing mods. :D

i does seem surprising that ferrari wouldn't see this, considering their huge north-american market and that they would only raise eyebrows in their costumers.

robbieduncan said:
It seems the team who likes to cheat in red ......
always nice to see such balanced, on-topic and grounded-in-reality comments... :rolleyes:
 
Other than the typeface, tracking, strokes, oh... and the colours of course. ;) Other than that... :p

i think that it was the correct decision to change it and that the logos do look similar, so there is some merit in ford's complaint, but i couldn't help but smile at the rationale given:

"Ferrari has misappropriated the F-150 trademark in naming its new racing vehicle the 'F150' in order to capitalise on and profit from the substantial goodwill that Ford has developed in the F-150 trademark," Ford said in the complaint.

:D now, that's funny.
 
always nice to see such balanced, on-topic and grounded-in-reality comments... :rolleyes:
It's not so unbalanced. Ferrari has a history of cheating.

I was just re-watching a program on the Shelby Daytona Coupe. In 1964, the Daytona Coupe had the advantage to beat Ferrari and win the sports car championship at Ferrari's home race, Monza. Enzo went to the FIA and had them declare the event a non-points race, without telling the public or press. As a result Ferrari won the championship instead. If that isn't blatant cheating, I really don't know what is.

After all, FIA does mean "Ferrari In front, Always"
 
It's not so unbalanced. Ferrari has a history of cheating.

I was just re-watching a program on the Shelby Daytona Coupe. In 1964, the Daytona Coupe had the advantage to beat Ferrari and win the sports car championship at Ferrari's home race, Monza. Enzo went to the FIA and had them declare the event a non-points race, without telling the public or press. As a result Ferrari won the championship instead. If that isn't blatant cheating, I really don't know what is.

After all, FIA does mean "Ferrari In front, Always"

never heard about this one. if that's what happened, it's pretty sad. A big if, though.

it seems however that at least in the last decades or so the the teams that 'distinguished' themselves as cheaters were others, and by a very large margin.
in any case, i am not interested in rehearsing this trite argument and the lame jokes that go with it.
haters gonna hate, knock yourself out.
 
I was just re-watching a program on the Shelby Daytona Coupe. In 1964, the Daytona Coupe had the advantage to beat Ferrari and win the sports car championship at Ferrari's home race, Monza. Enzo went to the FIA and had them declare the event a non-points race, without telling the public or press. As a result Ferrari won the championship instead. If that isn't blatant cheating, I really don't know what is.

The numbering scheme behind the 250 GTO homologation was even better... :D

After all, FIA does mean "Ferrari In front, Always"

The sad thing about the whole FIA "joke", is that some people actually believe it.
 
The sad thing about the whole FIA "joke", is that some people actually believe it.

that, i don't buy.


so guys, which of the cars looks most interesting at the get go?
I'll have to go with the Macca. a lot of interesting variations. hopefully they also work.

i have to say that i like the cars in general this year, and i like the fact that they actually look quite different from each other.

now if they only would put some visible numbers on them....

something like this (since the shelby was mentioned):
AC-Shelby-Cobra-Daytona-Coupe_21.jpg
 
Why do you want numbers? I just look at the make and the camera color on the rollover bar, or the helmet if my low res torrent will show it ;-)
I also miss the days of the big meatballs on the cars. I like big numbers.

ALMS does it right. Not only do they have large numbers on each side, but they are color coded for their class (which isn't relevant to F1). They also have three lights on the side: one for 1st in class, two for 2nd, and three for 3rd.
 
I also miss the days of the big meatballs on the cars. I like big numbers.

ALMS does it right. Not only do they have large numbers on each side, but they are color coded for their class (which isn't relevant to F1). They also have three lights on the side: one for 1st in class, two for 2nd, and three for 3rd.

I think the last time F1 cars had big numbers was in the 60s - before sponsorship! The difficulty remembering numbers would kinda neuter the need for big numbers, but I guess some of the helmets (ie the Red Bull/ Torro Rossos) look very similar - Vettel will never have an iconic helmet while he drives for Red Bull, whereas Hamilton's and Schumacher's are more iconic.
 
I think the last time F1 cars had big numbers was in the 60s.
Which is my favorite era of F1. The old bullets without wings. When the only driver aid was a strong cup of coffee the morning of the race, and a shot of whiskey afterwards. :)
 
So at the end of the 4 days of testing in Jerez the combined best times (by car, regardless of who was driving are):

Williams 1m19.832s
Renault 1m20.361s
Mercedes 1m20.352s
Ferrari 1m20.413s
Sauber 1m20.601s
McLaren 1m21.009s
Toro Rosso 1m21.213s
Red Bull 1m21.522s
Lotus 1m21.632s
Force India 1m21.780s
Virgin 1m22.208s

I suspect that the top 3 from last season are not showing their full potential yet. And a nice step forward for Team Lotus and a step, but somewhat less, for Virgin.
 
So at the end of the 4 days of testing in Jerez the combined best times (by car, regardless of who was driving are):

Williams 1m19.832s
Renault 1m20.361s
Mercedes 1m20.352s
Ferrari 1m20.413s
Sauber 1m20.601s
McLaren 1m21.009s
Toro Rosso 1m21.213s
Red Bull 1m21.522s
Lotus 1m21.632s
Force India 1m21.780s
Virgin 1m22.208s

I suspect that the top 3 from last season are not showing their full potential yet. And a nice step forward for Team Lotus and a step, but somewhat less, for Virgin.

It's going to be difficult to say which teams are doing well until the Bahrain test. The teams are not only running different setups, but we also don't know how they're using the KERS or the moveable wing. Mercedes have been disappointed so far with their efforts.
 
It's going to be difficult to say which teams are doing well until the Bahrain test. The teams are not only running different setups, but we also don't know how they're using the KERS or the moveable wing. Mercedes have been disappointed so far with their efforts.
There's probably some sandbagging going on too, especially between RBR, McLaren, and Ferrari.
 
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