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2011 Macbook Pro 13.3 Overheating *VIDEO*
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Just because the computer doesnt shut down doesn't mean everything is ok. Over time heat and heat cycles kill electronics. I still think back to the original xbox 360 and over time all the problems they had due to heat cycles. Mine died. I believe that in apples attempt to make everything quieter and more compact and faster temps go up. All the parts are supposedly designed to handle these temps but my MBP GPU failed from heat prematurely but was designed badly and there for fixed by apple.
One thing I also forgot to mention is that when I took the laptop apart to add the SSD, the CPU plate & heatsink were not made of copper. I think that also adds more heat as most high end CPU cooler are made of copper. I believe Apple used to use copper for their older MBP too, anyone want to confirm this?
Actually the SB runs cooler than previous models, at least the quad core.
And OP, it sounds like you returned a normal functioning computer.
And as far as the heat, think about the design including what it is made out of, how it is made, and what it does not have as much of as other laptops
The aluminum case is part of the ______.
@wicked4u2c I tried to post a reply to your video, but I cursed in it and I don't know how Google/YouTube feels about that. May not appear in that case. So, I just wanted to say that I am having a similar experience with my 13" i5. Temperatures are nearly identical. YouTube gets into the 80s and sometimes 90. Left for Dead 2 sits at about 89 with the fan on full 6000 RPM. My mid-2009 MBP 13" was about 20*C cooler in all circumstances. It idled at around 35, whereas this one is at around 50. YouTube videos pushed the old one up to the 50s, but this one is in the 80s. I think you're right that the design just simply isn't good enough for these processors and I think heat distribution is abysmal. They have aluminum cases for goodness sakes - why is not more of that CPU heat getting dispersed? And if Apple has done away with copper cooling, that will really chap my hide. Anyway, if it's any consolation, you're not alone. AND I'm on my 3rd machine in one month. Ugh.
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I ran the video at 1080p full screen and I barely broke 60c. Fans never moved from 2000. Odd how the OP had such different results. Is it a lemon?
I ran the video at 1080p full screen and I barely broke 60c. Fans never moved from 2000. Odd how the OP had such different results. Is it a lemon?
I made a video response. I have the i5 and it got to about 73 and topped out doing the same test as yours. When I was encoding the video it got to 87.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw4brstI9pg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw4brstI9pg
You removed the logic board when you put in the SSD?
I just ran the test Youtube video @1080p on my 2011 13" i5 (8GB RAM, SSD). I was on wireless and using mains power.
My CPU temp never exceeded 70C and my fans never ramped up. They remained at a quiet 2000RPM. The MBP is still cool to the touch as well.
Second try, I was able to reach 84C before the fans caught up and it stabilized at 74C @ 3000RPM. This run I was also burning a dual-layer DVD from an ISO accessed wirelessly via my server. It was still cool to the touch and quiet.
Edit: I'm using Google Chrome. I'll try other browsers later.
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My dell got up to 64c playing a 1080p video on youtube just now. Not as hot as this, but still really hot, and consider the xps 15 has a lot more room on the inside to vent the heat and it doesn't seem so out of place.
Thanks for sharing your video, your system definitely runs cooler. One thing to note is that my enclosure case was 27c and yours was 30c which shows how much cooler I was ambient temp which was 72F.
27 versus 30 degrees is not statistically significant whatsoever. Many things can affect temp that users rarely take into account. This is not even counting that they are two different CPU architectures, which makes the comparison almost useless.
The aluminum case is hotter than most polymer-based cases due to physics. The aluminum case is also one of the means of dissipating heat, and is likely why massive fans with massive vents are not required to cool the 'massive processors' (they aren't that 'massive' though). Why do this at the expense of causing many users to think their computer is malfunctioning? Because the concept of the unibody is to maximize structural integrity. By cutting holes in it, you defeat this goal and create a 'weak spot' in which leaves the computer more vulnerable to damage. It is the same as why cars with sunroofs (and esp. convertibles) almost never perform as well as their hardtop counterparts. Think of the bottom of your MBP as one giant heatsink. If you ever drop your MBP on a corner though (which is the worst place to drop a laptop), you will appreciate why this was designed in this fashion as most laptops will 'crack'. The internals are made to withstand the heat, and the heat generated is way too low to affect the properties of the alum alloy used. The plastic keys are shielded from the rest and they won't melt. Even the battery is designed slightly differently to reduce the risk of an explosion and/or fire. My point is the system is made around this.
They may have run a little on the hotter side, but your applications probably bumped the CPU usage-percentage up which obviously generates more heat. Certain programs that have a small resource footprint in Windows sometimes have a larger footprint with OS X. Heat can be reduced by a variety of ways with the MBPs depending on your usage of the system. It sounds like you got two computers that did the same thing (running normally) and decided they were not working correctly. The computers both worked (and work) fine.
OP, that machine runs hot as hell.
Known issue with much hiding of the fact by long-winded apoligists.
Sell the the notebook and get a base 2010 refurb 15 from apple for $1200-ish.
Also, everyone, notice how extremely defensive and in multiple numbers the apoligists show up in any 2011MPB heat-issue threads....?
Duh, the machine is very powerful, as all the SB chips are, but the thermal issues have not been addressed properly.
I had this very machine and returned it after 4 days. Went with what I suggested above, 2010 15 MBP reefurb from Apple.
Known issue with much hiding of the fact by long-winded apoligists.
Sell the the notebook and get a base 2010 refurb 15 from apple for $1200-ish.
Also, everyone, notice how extremely defensive and in multiple numbers the apoligists show up in any 2011MPB heat-issue threads....?
Duh, the machine is very powerful, as all the SB chips are, but the thermal issues have not been addressed properly.
I had this very machine and returned it after 4 days. Went with what I suggested above, 2010 15 MBP reefurb from Apple.
Perhaps it's because they don't all run hot.
I've run the same video from the OP over and over on my 2011 13" tonight at 1080p. I still can't get my fans to budge from 2000RPM using Safari, simply because there's no need. It get slightly warmer in Chrome, and the warmest using Firefox 4. Still though, the fans don't exceed 3200RPM and nothing feels warm to the touch.
I love how if you don't have a problem, you're an apologist.
If you have a problem, have it fixed. It's that simple.
You are wrong; forget getting defensive as this is not a debate. This is not a new 'issue' and the SB does NOT run hotter. How many people ask if their MBP is overheating? A lot. How many people say 'My MBP had a thermal meltdown'? Not many. The MBP has historically felt 'hot'. We have a few of the 13's and they do not run hotter than the previous Core 2 Duo models.
I think this is underscored by the fact that switching to different browsers that use various plug-ins, etc completely changes the thermal response on the same content.
Integrated graphics: CPU temp: 49C
Dedicated graphics: CPU temp: 59C
Used gfxCardStatus to control the GPU selection. Web browser: Safari. MacBook Pro 15" 2011 2.2Ghz
We as Customers should not need to use 3rd party Aids for watching youtube in 1080p.
IMO if an APPLE laptop out of the box is giving you so much STRESS. I said stress because its simply just is.
If you really want a mbp you can either
A: accept the fact and move on.
B: Sell it / return it and get a pre mbp 2010 but you sacrifice the i7. Dont forget the price different.
C: talk to a Genius bring your laptop in show them exactly what you capture in the video. Let them Decide for you.
D: Ask someone else.
Sorry but i think its more or less a personal preference, so im not going into the Tech part.
Clearly , this issue is fine with some and not the others.
Its like - i can stand the rattle noise in my car , others cant.
IMO if an APPLE laptop out of the box is giving you so much STRESS. I said stress because its simply just is.
If you really want a mbp you can either
A: accept the fact and move on.
B: Sell it / return it and get a pre mbp 2010 but you sacrifice the i7. Dont forget the price different.
C: talk to a Genius bring your laptop in show them exactly what you capture in the video. Let them Decide for you.
D: Ask someone else.
Sorry but i think its more or less a personal preference, so im not going into the Tech part.
Clearly , this issue is fine with some and not the others.
Its like - i can stand the rattle noise in my car , others cant.
you sure seem to think you know a lot dont you? If its not a debate quit debating the guy
*Yawn* Every revision has heat complaints. Ditto for thermal paste applications.
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You think this is hot? you must not have used a Core Duo machine.
Edit: Is mitchell248 incapable of getting a point across without being patronizing/condescending? If people don't agree with you it doesn't make them an apologist, it just means they dont agree with you. Your viewpoint isn't necessarily gospel.
2010 MBP Heat question
MBP reached 106 degrees
Heat on my i7 MBP
Core i7 MBP hits 100C
MacBook Pro too HOT
MacBook Boiling Hot
Hot i5 MBP
MacBook Pro Heat Dissipation
MacBook Pro heat problem
MacBook Pro heat causing pain in hands
PowerBook G4 Overheating
Whats new
You think this is hot? you must not have used a Core Duo machine.
Edit: Is mitchell248 incapable of getting a point across without being patronizing/condescending? If people don't agree with you it doesn't make them an apologist, it just means they dont agree with you. Your viewpoint isn't necessarily gospel.
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interesting, I never called anybody an apologist... you have the wrong person. But thats okay I am merely the other side of this discussion. Most people here seem to be so intent that nobody has a problem and they need to get over it while some certainly do... There is a line on both sides that probably needs to be walked in order to not be perceived as an Apple swinger or a hater. Many have not found how what that is and I am sorry that I see it that way.
Well enough here, I am off to recommend that everyone installs an SSD and 8GB of RAM so they can watch youtube and facebook.
You may not have used the exact word but...
Get in the row with the rest of the ducklings and follow apple around. Others that think on their own will not only understand the problem but will hope for a solution to it as they see more to the situation than just apples behind
I was just saying that his head was up Apples butt. To be an apologist you would have to think on your own and believe something truly then defend it. I was indicating that this was not the case. There was no hidden meaning to that. A little harsh? Maybe. I never did well with english so I could always be misinterpreting the word apologist too.
I am sorry for coming of as patronizing or condescending, it was not where I wanted to go in my posting.