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My recently purchased MBP 15" has a 6Gb linkspeed for both the HD and DVD-RW. Of course, the negotiated linkspeeds are much lower due to platter technology.

Good enough for me:)
Just ordered one CTO with the upgraded 2.3 chip and higher res display.
I'll let you guys know if I get 6gb on both or not when it comes.
 
Pretty sure they didn't even advertise a single SATA3 port, let alone two. The ODD isn't intended to be user-replaceable anyway.

But Geniuses often overlook OptiBay enhancements. I pay $2500 for a new MBP in Feb upon release and want to do an Optibay upgrade but i'm stuck with using SATA II drives.

Then to rub salt in the wound, someone else pays the same about two months later and they get a revised chipset (who knows what other enhancements it contains) including the full SATA III experience in both SATA ports.

Similar thing happened with 8GB RAM support in the Late 08 MBPs which didn't come until later revisions/via a firmware update. Similar thing with the MBAs, a few months later and they're using faster blade SSDs

This is why i absolutely detest being an Apple (or any other company) early adopter. If only i had the option/choice to wait a little this time...

Oh well, i'll never put myself in that position again. Even if i do find myself there i'd rather be computer-less and wait to see how everything unfolds before diving in.
 
But Geniuses often overlook OptiBay enhancements. I pay $2500 for a new MBP in Feb upon release and want to do an Optibay upgrade but i'm stuck with using SATA II drives.

Then to rub salt in the wound, someone else pays the same about two months later and they get a revised chipset (who knows what other enhancements it contains) including the full SATA III experience in both SATA ports.

Similar thing happened with 8GB RAM support in the Late 08 MBPs which didn't come until later revisions/via a firmware update. Similar thing with the MBAs, a few months later and they're using faster blade SSDs

This is why i absolutely detest being an Apple (or any other company) early adopter. If only i had the option/choice to wait a little this time...

Oh well, i'll never put myself in that position again. Even if i do find myself there i'd rather be computer-less and wait to see how everything unfolds before diving in.

Guess so, but you've gotta make decisions based on what's available at the time. Besides, how many people seriously need to run 6Gb/s drives in RAID-0?
 
Guess so, but you've gotta make decisions based on what's available at the time. Besides, how many people seriously need to run 6Gb/s drives in RAID-0?

That's not the point. The point is, you paid the same price I did and got a more futureproof product. So, to clarify, if it says 3GB/s in the link speed I have the ****** model, no matter what?
 
That's not the point. The point is, you paid the same price I did and got a more futureproof product. So, to clarify, if it says 3GB/s in the link speed I have the ****** model, no matter what?

Well, it only matters if you want to put a 6Gb/s drive in your Superdrive bay. If you do, you could take it back to Apple and see what they say.

It looks like the SMS works for HDDs in an Optibay, at least on the 2011 Pros anyway - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1117836/. As I said, unless you want to run an SSD RAID-0, you're not losing anything anyway.
 
Got a new computer from Amazon 3 days ago, it still had only 1 SATA3 port. Guess they had lots of laptops in stock.
 
It can be in either. For example, Seagate drives with a "G" at the end of the part number have their "G-Force" shock resistant feature.

I think the point is if you buy a new Macbook with a OEM hard drive the SMS is in the computer.
 
I have a few questions. One is if you had the model that has the updated revision could you tell without putting in data double and a 6g sata III drive in there? as one post says it won't show until it has a 6g sata III drive in the optical bay drive. Secondly I have a macbook pro right now how do I (exactly) go about finding out if it has the updated revision? I've also attached a picture of it to make sure if anyone can help me with that. Thanks

http://www.flickr.com/photos/62315746@N08/5666344052/in/photostream/lightbox/
 
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If the shoe fits buddy.

OMG, Weaselboy you're so right!!!

I should have read this thread from the beginning because now I see it's all smart people on here. I can barely manage to get my intarnetz to work!

I'm so sorry! I thought this was about the networker.
 
ok thanks. now anyone have an answer for my second question? if I got a new laptop I wouldn't need to install data doubler and a 6g sata III drive to find out correct? I'm figuring it's a no because you just said I have an old revision based on seeing it but is there any validity to what the post said about needing to install a 6g drive in that optical port for it to show up as 6g? I'm figuring from the one post about how the ong guy had the New revision that you don't need to install it to know for sure but I didn't know if he had a 6g sata III drive in the optical bay.
 
ok thanks. now anyone have an answer for my second question? if I got a new laptop I wouldn't need to install data doubler and a 6g sata III drive to find out correct? I'm figuring it's a no because you just said I have an old revision based on seeing it but is there any validity to what the post said about needing to install a 6g drive in that optical port for it to show up as 6g? I'm figuring from the one post about how the ong guy had the New revision that you don't need to install it to know for sure but I didn't know if he had a 6g sata III drive in the optical bay.

You can tell without putting a 6g drive in there. Your Link Speed says 3 Gigabit, whereas mine says 6 Gigabit even with the stock Apple SATA 3.0 drive in there (in an optibay). It's a CTO MBP 15" 2.2GHz ordered on 4/15.
 
i feel a little bit disappointed about the cd drive port being only 3gbp,s on the latest releases[i mean first lot out]they should do a firmware fix on it,i almost feel like selling mine and buying the latest issue without that limitation,frankly,

they must know folks do the data doubler thing,its a real shame.
 
I was wondering why this age old thread was bumped back up . . .

Jesus, WHY DID I NOT WAIT? T.T

I will never be an early adopter again. Seriously. Arrgh, hopefully the logic board on this machine fries one day and they'll have to give me a replacement.

But if you think about it, it really doesn't matter unless you want to RAID SATA 6Gbps drives. For us non-enthusiasts, just move the HDD to the optical bay and the SATA III SSD to the HDD bay. The SMS seems to work for HDDs in the optical bay in the new MBPs. :)
 
But if you think about it, it really doesn't matter unless you want to RAID SATA 6Gbps drives. For us non-enthusiasts, just move the HDD to the optical bay and the SATA III SSD to the HDD bay. The SMS seems to work for HDDs in the optical bay in the new MBPs. :)

Honestly, I don't see why people are so worked up about this. Apple only intended for an optical drive to be connected to the optical drive port, and SATA II is more than adequate for that. The general consensus on the half dozen "does optibay, et al void my warranty" threads was that it did void the warranty. Why then would Apple reward people performing that unsanctioned procedure with performance that benefits only them?

I'm running two SATA III drives in RAID0 and not only does it work, it works well. Would it be better if both drives were running full bore? Yeah, probably. I don't know if it'd even be that noticeable in normal usage.
 
'm running two SATA III drives in RAID0 and not only does it work, it works well. Would it be better if both drives were running full bore? Yeah, probably. I don't know if it'd even be that noticeable in normal usage.

Well, I reckon you might notice the difference.

I bought a second Vertex 3 and configured them for RAID0. There's only a very tiny improvement. I might sell this MBP and buy a more recent one just to see what difference dual 6Gbps actually makes...
 

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Well, I reckon you might notice the difference.

I bought a second Vertex 3 and configured them for RAID0. There's only a very tiny improvement. I might sell this MBP and buy a more recent one just to see what difference dual 6Gbps actually makes...

Yes, I'm sure that in a benchmark the difference would be significant, but I'm talking about normal computer activities. Similarly, when I replaced the 8 gig 1066 kit I had in my last MBP with a new 1600 kit, benchmarks were boosted but the computer was not noticeably faster at all.
 
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