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2011 MacBook Pro - SATA 6 Gigabit Link Speed
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He didn't say it didn't work, just that he couldn't get it to boot from that port. Perhaps he didn't set it as the startup disk?
Vertex 3 works fine in my DataDoubler but I only have 6/3, not 6/6. Went to my local Apple Store to see if they had any recently built 2.3GHz HiRes units but they were all built during weeks 8-10...
This could be. I only had the Vertex 3 in the Optibay with nothing in the main spot, and booted from the OSX disc via an external drive. The disc booted fine, but it couldn't find a drive to install to.
I probably will try it again at some point, since I have a 1TB drive sitting around that's 12.5mm and has to be in the main slot.
Please please try this!!!
OK guys...I think I may have stumbled onto something...
Rather than give a full explanation, anyone experiencing problems PLEASE try this to help narrow down the issue, I have done this and seen results!
You must have a SATA III DRIVE (OBVIOUSLY) and an airport extreme to replicate my findings.
1)Benchmark your 6g drive with just the magsafe power adapter attatched (nothing else)
2)screen capture the results
3)plug in an ethernet cable from your airport extreme that is on!
4)re-benchmark the results
listen...I know it sounds crazy but the southbridge controls this stuff....I have benchmarked an OWC 6g 120 GB drive without the ethernet cable plugged in and gotten like 440-450 MB/SEC write speeds (read speeds were fine)
WITH IT PLUGGED IN I GOT 480-510 MB/SEC!!! NOT KIDDING GUYS!!!!!!
PLEASE JUST TRY IT....YOUVE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE....BUT IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU AS WELL...WE MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING!
PS...JUST PLUGGING IN AN ETHERNET CABLE ATTACHED TO NOTHING DIDNT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCES....IT HAD TO BE CONNECTED TO MY AIRPORT EXTREME ON ONE END AND MY MACBOOK PRO ON THE OTHER
OK guys...I think I may have stumbled onto something...
Rather than give a full explanation, anyone experiencing problems PLEASE try this to help narrow down the issue, I have done this and seen results!
You must have a SATA III DRIVE (OBVIOUSLY) and an airport extreme to replicate my findings.
1)Benchmark your 6g drive with just the magsafe power adapter attatched (nothing else)
2)screen capture the results
3)plug in an ethernet cable from your airport extreme that is on!
4)re-benchmark the results
listen...I know it sounds crazy but the southbridge controls this stuff....I have benchmarked an OWC 6g 120 GB drive without the ethernet cable plugged in and gotten like 440-450 MB/SEC write speeds (read speeds were fine)
WITH IT PLUGGED IN I GOT 480-510 MB/SEC!!! NOT KIDDING GUYS!!!!!!
PLEASE JUST TRY IT....YOUVE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE....BUT IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU AS WELL...WE MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING!
PS...JUST PLUGGING IN AN ETHERNET CABLE ATTACHED TO NOTHING DIDNT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCES....IT HAD TO BE CONNECTED TO MY AIRPORT EXTREME ON ONE END AND MY MACBOOK PRO ON THE OTHER
So if your right do you suggest that we all drag around an airport to get an extra 50mb/sec?
I hope you did more then one run of these tests and got an average for both situations.So if your right do you suggest that we all drag around an airport to get an extra 50mb/sec?
Funny
..... Yes...tested it many times (on my machine it is a consistent 40 mb/sec avg difference) it is just weird.... will be doing a capture with apple on tuesday with and without ethernet attatched and they will review what is going on. ALSO....TRIED PLUGGING IT INTO AN AIRPORT EXPRESS...DID NOT WORK!!
WEIRD!!!!
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ALSO....TRIED PLUGGING IT INTO AN AIRPORT EXPRESS...DID NOT WORK!!
WEIRD!!!!
what about a time capsule- hmmm
sounds like dodgy internal cable issue OWC were ranting on about
I can believe this. The old MBPs had an "issue" where internal HDD transfer speed was increased by attaching a firewire device.
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacBookProCore_i7-SATA-Bizarre.html
can we get back to link speed for a bit
who has mbp 17 with 2x6g ports and what date you got it and where
store or BTO ?
also build date would be good
thanks
who has mbp 17 with 2x6g ports and what date you got it and where
store or BTO ?
also build date would be good
thanks
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I love seeing how some of you folks go bezerk over an additional port supporting 6gbps.
If you purchased your macbook pro months before this new addition, don't get your panties bunched up. You guys fail to see within a short period of time (roughly a year's time), the ivy bridge computers will be out from Apple replacing your precious MBP. By that time, you're gonna think 6/6 ports isn't that big of a deal compared to the new hardware out.
I'm just telling you panty bunchers to relax. Unless you got money to burn by getting 2 SATA3 SSD's, there's no real threat if you only have one 6Gbps port and one 3Gbps optibay port.
Enjoy your fast as ***k mbp and by next year's time, I'm sure those who are complaining about the 6/3 combo you have now will buy the new ivy bridge mbp.
If you purchased your macbook pro months before this new addition, don't get your panties bunched up. You guys fail to see within a short period of time (roughly a year's time), the ivy bridge computers will be out from Apple replacing your precious MBP. By that time, you're gonna think 6/6 ports isn't that big of a deal compared to the new hardware out.
I'm just telling you panty bunchers to relax. Unless you got money to burn by getting 2 SATA3 SSD's, there's no real threat if you only have one 6Gbps port and one 3Gbps optibay port.
Enjoy your fast as ***k mbp and by next year's time, I'm sure those who are complaining about the 6/3 combo you have now will buy the new ivy bridge mbp.
I just ordered my new MBP yesterday.
15 inch anti-glare
8GB RAM
750GB internal
I will tell you guys what kinda of transfer rates I have when I get it. I'm dropping in a 128GB SSD SATA3 and will post results.
I'm still a little scared because I know there are SATA3 issues. I wonder if I should just return the SATA3 and get a safe SATA2.
Any ideas?
15 inch anti-glare
8GB RAM
750GB internal
I will tell you guys what kinda of transfer rates I have when I get it. I'm dropping in a 128GB SSD SATA3 and will post results.
I'm still a little scared because I know there are SATA3 issues. I wonder if I should just return the SATA3 and get a safe SATA2.
Any ideas?
I purchased a new 17" from the Apple store as a stock model roughly a week and a half ago. This was the base 2.2 model. Both my ports appear to be 6/6. I have posted my serial specs for those interested.
Group1: MacBook
Group2: Pro
Generation: 83
ModelCode:
Machine Model: MacBookPro8,3
Model introduced: 2011
Production year: 2011
Production week: 18 (May)
CPU speed: 2.2GHz
Family name: Become a pro user to see this information. (sorry)
Screen size: 17 inch
Colour: Please tell us what colour this MacBook is.
Factory: C0 (Quanta Computer (Susidiary = Tech Com))
Group1: MacBook
Group2: Pro
Generation: 83
ModelCode:
Machine Model: MacBookPro8,3
Model introduced: 2011
Production year: 2011
Production week: 18 (May)
CPU speed: 2.2GHz
Family name: Become a pro user to see this information. (sorry)
Screen size: 17 inch
Colour: Please tell us what colour this MacBook is.
Factory: C0 (Quanta Computer (Susidiary = Tech Com))
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As a side note, I wonder if the updated interface for the 6/6 revisions would address the issue some people are having with SATA 3 SSDs not being read correctly / not functioning at full speed / general instability. I plan on upgrading to a SATA 3 SSD in the future but unfortunately have no way of testing that at present.
Can anyone with a SATA 3 SSD and a 6/6 MBP test this and post the results?
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Here is a link to the article for those new to this issue.
Can anyone with a SATA 3 SSD and a 6/6 MBP test this and post the results?
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Here is a link to the article for those new to this issue.
Just took delivery of my 15" /2.2/anti-glare, and.........
3 Gigabit Link speed in the optidrive.
I am wondering how much this means to me. For now I am sticking a SATA 3 SSD in the main drive and popping the 7200 HD it came with into the optical drive. So non issue for now. Eventually though, I was/am going to put an SSD in the optical drive. SO that will have to be SATA II. THis will be for streaming large sample libraries and multitrack audio. I am thinking SATA II will suffice - but more is better. I also have the option of using a Thunderbolt drive eventually as an audio drive.
So I am thinking I will just keep it until it ever starts bothering me, and then I will trade up.
Please feel free to talk me into sending it back and trying to figure out how to get a 6/6....
First post here, BTW...
3 Gigabit Link speed in the optidrive.
I am wondering how much this means to me. For now I am sticking a SATA 3 SSD in the main drive and popping the 7200 HD it came with into the optical drive. So non issue for now. Eventually though, I was/am going to put an SSD in the optical drive. SO that will have to be SATA II. THis will be for streaming large sample libraries and multitrack audio. I am thinking SATA II will suffice - but more is better. I also have the option of using a Thunderbolt drive eventually as an audio drive.
So I am thinking I will just keep it until it ever starts bothering me, and then I will trade up.
Please feel free to talk me into sending it back and trying to figure out how to get a 6/6....
First post here, BTW...
Where your logic fails is that you need the two ports to run 6GB connections if you want to utilize a SATA 3 drive (SSD) and a Traditional HDD that doesn't have a built in SMS. To use the system SMS in this situation to protect the HDD drive, the drive needs to be mounted in the HDD slot, the only one utilizing SATA3 currently. This causes your super fast new SSD to be throttled down and not worth the extra cost of the 6GB. Even though the HDD will not use the 6GB it will be in the only slot that can utilize it, so we lose the added benefit of 6GB and the extra storage space. If we could designate which slot gets the 6GB or which slot gets the SMS it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
Wow this is interesting. I'm surprised your machine which is 11weeks ahead of mine still got SATA II optical port. I was actually considering selling mine (already found a buyer) and buying a new one. But now it seems its not even worth the hassle cos i might still end up where i started.
Strange. So it's still a lottery.
This hole story keeps getting stranger. Well, I don't care about the Sata 6G port in the optical bay. Just bought the OWC data doubler last week and put the 750GB HDD in. I'm waiting for my Vertex 3 MaxIOPS to arrive. I just hope that it'll work in my MBP, while it seems to be a real lottery putting one in.
Regards JMR
Regards JMR
Just got my 2011 MBP
Anti-Glare 15inch Hi-Res Display
8GB Ram
750GB internal
Both of the SATA ports are 6G. One negotiated @ 3 and one @ 1.5, but both are indeed 6G ports.
Mac built between May 23rd and May 29th, according to CoconutID, even though today is the 20th lol...
Anti-Glare 15inch Hi-Res Display
8GB Ram
750GB internal
Both of the SATA ports are 6G. One negotiated @ 3 and one @ 1.5, but both are indeed 6G ports.
Mac built between May 23rd and May 29th, according to CoconutID, even though today is the 20th lol...
I know I should not be fixated on the fact that my optical port is 3GB. If I ever REALLY need a 2nd SATA 3 drive I can sell and upgrade to whatever newer model is current. And by then there will hopefully be thunderbolt drives on the market. But......damn!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel cheated.
Question is, does the SATA 3 drive WORK correctly in the HDD slot by itself?
Because if so, it means that Quanta didn't use old parts, they used fixed parts, but just not the "optimal". I can live with that. I just need the SSD to work in the main bay.
Has anyone actually gotten their MBP to boot to an SATA 3 drive on the optical port? I wasn't able to as of yet.
Yes, it works fine for me.