You guys post too damn fast.
Give him a break, he's probably getting tired of watching the Patriots roll on while his Packers go home.
Fair enough.
But if he's gonna troll us Pats fans, I reserve the right to troll back. It's all in good fun (I hope).
I have no idea why he hates New England so, Green Bay beat us in the last Super Bowl they played together. Aaron Rodgers is one of the best, and I have total respect for Green Bay. But einmusiker's act is tired.
I love Rodgers. He's a great QB and he was my fantasy QB this year. IMO he's above Brees, Roethlisberger, and the Manning brothers and is clearly the best in the league not named Brady.
He makes a great point, Google it, about the AFC being weak and the Pats (last three seasons) schedule the easiest or closest to being the easiest.
Strength of schedule has some bearing but it doesn't mean everything. Yeah, the Pats beat up on some weak teams, but they also beat (and many times soundly) some very good teams over the past few years. What was Houston's record when they were coming in to Foxboro a month ago and everyone was already crowning them the champs? On top of that, the Pats have been the team to beat for a decade, so EVERY team that plays them plays like it's the Super Bowl. Teams don't get geared up nearly as much to play the Chiefs or Raiders like they do the Patriots.
I don't think at all it's any disrespect to the great Tom Brady. But while he's a great 35 year old quarterback, and maybe the best 35 year old quarterback in NFL history, he's not the same guy who commanded full respect by taking three out of four Super Bowls in his twenties.
You're right. He's better. I've watched every game and nearly every snap of Brady's career and the past 3 years (2010, 11, 12) have been the 3 best and most consistent seasons I have ever seen from Brady. 2010 or 2012 Brady would smoke 2004 Brady in any head to head competition. The QB position, especially the way Brady plays it, relies much more on intelligence, experience, and mental decision making rather than being an excellent athlete. Brady was never a freakish athletic talent like a Gronk or an RGIII. He's as good as he is because of his football smarts, something that gets better with age, not worse.
If Brady loses in next two games, you may hear the same uproar telling him to retire as you heard with the Bus, Lewis, Favre, and yes, Joe Montana.
Anyone who would actually say this if Brady does lose either this Sunday or Feb 3rd would have no credibility and would just be proving they know jack **** about football.
Personally I don't give a **** about what some random person who probably bases all his sports knowledge on Sportscenter says about Tom Brady. When he won his first Super Bowl, they said it was luck. The second was because of his defense, and all the "true greats" won three. When he won his third, he got the respect he deserved as one of the GOAT. Lose two very close, unbelievable Super Bowls, and suddenly he still has something to prove. Enough already. 7 AFC Championship games. Won 5 of them.
(edit: so far ) 3 Super Bowl rings in the salary cap era.
This is what I don't get. How does losing a Super Bowl hurt his legacy? If anything, it helps. All of these other quarterbacks he is being compared against LOST beforehand and didn't even make it to the Super Bowl.
He's compared most to Montana and Peyton. Montana LOST the NFC championship 3 (I think?) times, lost in the divisional round twice, and lost in the wild card round once.. Peyton Manning has lost his FIRST game of the playoffs 8 of 12 times, lost the superbowl once, lost the conference championship once, lost in the divisional round five times, and lost in the wild card round 4 times.
Brady's lost super bowl twice, the AFC championship once, lost in the divisional round twice, and lost in the wild card round once.
If you're going to say Montana is better because he never lost a superbowl, you might as well say Sanchez is better too, since he also has never lost a Super Bowl. But we all know he isn't.
You have to get to the Super Bowl to lose it, and in his 10 full, complete seasons as a starter, Brady's got there exactly 50% of the time. Montana: 36% of the time (4/11). Manning: 14% of the time (2/14).
That 4th ring still hangs over his head, but if he gets that, the discussion is over.
If football awarded Gold, Silver, and Bronze like the Olympics, who would you say was the better athlete.
The guy with 4 golds and 3 fourth place finishes, or the guy with 4 golds and 2 silvers?
Are you crazy? You really think we're effed in any way, shape or form? Do you honestly think it's easy to put up 41 points on the Houston Texans? And Brady himself will tell you that wasn't their best game.
I swear the rubric by which the Patriots are graded is different than everyone else. I guess I understand it, but it's still baffling. I mean, effed? The Patriots went 4-1 without Gronkowski.
Yup.
I agree with all you say, but this? No way.
That Brady at 24, and few years after, alone can stand as calling him the greatest of all time in some peoples' books. Google those years and look at his schedule. He took out AFC defenses when defenses were the strong point of the AFC. Who cares about his stats now when destroying defenses was his best trait then?
You either didn't watch or you're severely misremembering how Brady and the Patriots played the game of football when they won those 3 Super Bowls.
It was about low scoring games, the defense controlling the game, and Brady handing off the ball to Antowan Smith (Corey Dillon in 04), throwing short passes to Brown and Patten, and screen routes to Redmond and Faulk. Brady played well and won us all of those Super Bowls, but we wouldn't have beat Manning's Colts (03) and Roethlisberger's Steelers (04) in the AFC Championships those two years without Ty Law and Rodney Harrison.
The Patriots evolved from a defense-first team during the Super Bowl years to an offense-first team when they brought in Moss, Welker, and Stallworth in 2007. That's when Brady really started to play up to his potential.
If Brady is the same QB now, he would have walked on my 49ers who were limping with a terribly injured D, and maybe the most injured D we have had in years.
If both Vereen and Ridley didn't fumble and turnover the ball in the 1st quarter of that game the Pats would have won. Brady led them on 4 straight touchdown drives and put up 28 unanswered on that 49ers defense before our kickoff team blew the coverage on the kickoff after we tied it up.
