Not as individual brands it doesn't, but making an umbrella an entry under the Auto Union brand would however, as such an entry could then be exploited by all of VW brands and you get one of the most famous names in Grand Prix back on the grid.
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Not as individual brands it doesn't, but making an umbrella an entry under the Auto Union brand would however, as such an entry could then be exploited by all of VW brands and you get one of the most famous names in Grand Prix back on the grid.
I think it would be great to have them involved, but if they don't join when the engine formula changes to the 1.6 liter V6, when will they? It's not like they're waiting to see if F1 will still be here--it will.
Personally, I'd like to see Honda back, but that ship has sailed.
They might very well be waiting to see if there's an agreement on cost-cutting, resource restrictions etc.
Auto Union would be an obvious choice from a marketing perspective, certainly a better choice than with a single marque like Audi for example, the potential exposure is far greater than with their current motorsport endeavours.
I very much doubt they will though... VW are far too calculated and far too dull to risk it, much like the LMP & GT Championships they instead seem to favour.
^^^^ Yes sireeeeee! Great race after Vettel went out. I want to see close racing not a leader with a 20 sec lead. Don't really know what can be done about it, Vettel is an outstanding driver especially when it comes to qualifying and also is darn good at the start. I think the second place driver at the start never really gets to have a go at him because he's battling the 3rd driver. Oh well. The race was great. Don't agree with the penalty to Maldanado regarding Hamilton. Hamilton really should have given some room. Great job by Kimi and Schui, but what a drive by Alonso! Can't wait for the next race...hope it's back on SPEED and not Fox, I prefer watching early in the am when the house is quiet
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love to see kimi or roman win one and deffo pastor win another.
di resta winning would be fine as well...
love to see kimi or roman win one and deffo pastor win another.
di resta winning would be fine as well...
Just goes to show that even with the leaps and bounds made in motor racing safety, it's still inherently dangerous. My best wishes to Maria for a speedy recovery.
Best wishes to Maria as well.
You have to wonder when this happens whether a team like Marussia is willing to take on an ill-prepared driver for a test, just to raise some capital. I don't know that this is the case with Maria (was she bringing some funding with her for the team?), but that's usually the case with these back-marker teams (they test drivers with cash).
Why they would use a support truck that has the bumper hight of exactly the drivers head as a barrier is so far beyond stupid is ridiculous. The team needs to suffer for this one.
For the wreck it is looking like it was an anti-stall system kicking. Being that it's likely the first time she has driven a car with one she wasn't expecting it. I blame the team on this. Inexperienced driver who should have been physically experienced that system in a controlled setting and the team for setting up a dangerous barrier.
For the wreck it is looking like it was an anti-stall system kicking. Being that it's likely the first time she has driven a car with one she wasn't expecting it. I blame the team on this. Inexperienced driver who should have been physically experienced that system in a controlled setting and the team for setting up a dangerous barrier.
Agree.
From the picture, I was thinking right-front brake lock-up, but I've been removed from following F1, so I was unaware of the anti-stall system.
Have these automatic systems removed driving skill, at the risk of personal injury?
An interesting question. What advances for the motoring public does this "advance" achieve?
The anti-stall systems serve a useful purpose and should be in the cars. Their main function is to keep the cars from stalling during spins and on pit road. Since the cars have no starters if it stalls they are done. For an experienced driver it's not a problem. For someone in the car for the first time trying to stop the darn thing and it surges ahead it doesn't work out well.
The whole situation is just a perfect storm of bad circumstances. A poorly designed testing area with an inexperienced driver. It's very unfortunate this young lady has to suffer a life long disability due to this.
I don't think there is any evidence whatsoever that they were using the truck "as a barrier". The truck was a long way from where the car would be driven at speed and I don't think anyone would expect there to be an accident of this nature in that area.
Yep, the car took control, and in that few seconds her life was forever changed.
If a car stalls on pit road, so what? The car is effectively out of the race. Big deal.
Driver error should be punished, and not cause disfiguring injuries.
Obviously there wasn't a barrier so in effect the truck was one. There should have been something in place in the event of a failure or accident such as this, obviously there wasn't one.
The anti stall systems are perfectly safe in the hands of an experience and trained driver. She wasn't. It was the first time she had driven the car and this was the result. It wasn't nearly as controlled as it should have been for a first timer in the car.
obviously you chose to forget how drivers managed to stall when starting the race and the accidents it sometimes caused
Good point. I have seen the result of that a few times.
Perhaps they need a simulator, to train new drivers on first?
With those injuries, I was afraid this was the case.
As of today, Maria remains in a critical but stable condition at Addenbrookes hospital. No comment as to the exact cause of the accident, and time will tell on that one. For now, I think best wishes to her, and her family and hopes that she recovers...Whatever the cause of the accident.
To those discussing the anti-stall: AFAIK the anti-stall system in the McLaren ECU should work by pulling the clutch in if it detects that the engine speed is dropping at a rate that will cause the engine to stall (ie, the driver dumps the clutch in gear with no throttle, or spins). When the anti-stall kicks in, it starts a timer. The driver has until the end of the timer to pull the clutch lever themselves. If they don't, the engine is cut.
None of us know what actually happened in Maria's horrific accident, all we've heard is hearsay and we'll only find out once the team and the HSE have conducted a thorough investigation.
Let's also not rush to slate Maria as inexperienced: she has driven an F1 car before, and spent a lot of time in simulators. She's also experienced in other cars. Also, consider that the tail lift of a lorry at head height is a very difficult thing to see.
None of us know what actually happened in Maria's horrific accident, all we've heard is hearsay and we'll only find out once the team and the HSE have conducted a thorough investigation.
Let's also not rush to slate Maria as inexperienced: she has driven an F1 car before, and spent a lot of time in simulators. She's also experienced in other cars. Also, consider that the tail lift of a lorry at head height is a very difficult thing to see.
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