2012 iMac = Brilliant Design!

[435713]

I see what you mean but if you can cram higher performing specs in it (latest on the market) then why not make it thinner if it will work. Less material, sleeker design even if you don't see difference from the business end of it. if they wanted to add a desktop GPU in there it would have to be a lot thicker than the 2011 model (bordering on a PC box similar design) so you may as well just get the tower and an external screen instead of an AIO. Also it would use more electricity which is what they are not going for. Notice how each iMac iteration boasts about less power consumption? That is a key selling point these days.

Summing it up, they couldn't have chosen better specs for this new iMac and they managed to put it in a machine that is slimmer (obviously better if it works). It will work or they wouldn't have made it because they would get returns deep into their pockets. I am sure the Apple engineers are smart enough to distribute heat.

Last thing, don't put something down until you try it.

I am sure I will end up buying later next year after the Haswell releases and the Ivy's become a shade cheaper on amazon or bhphoto. I'll be sure to put it down and glorify at the same time, does that work

I think it's always better for it to run cooler, but I havent seen any huge failure rates and Macs usually run pretty hot, so I am sure the engineers know what they are doing. Really haven't seen anything about problems with it, a couple cases here and there but nothing like the XBOX 360 RROD 54%.

I would consider a tower and external screen but they don't really make what I want there. Mini is okay but I'd rather have a little bit larger with a GPU and desktop CPU in there. Mac Pro can be had for $1800 new (slightly older model) but that is a shade much for me as well. Like to see a $1499 desktop and add an ultrasharp to that but can;t see that happening.

I just like teasing the thin stuff. If I was buddies with Ive I would call him often and tease him all the time. All in good fun. I would always have a white drop cloth as well to drape behind me when I spoke to him. ha

 

[turtlez]

I am sure I will end up buying later next year after the Haswell releases and the Ivy's become a shade cheaper on amazon or bhphoto. I'll be sure to put it down and glorify at the same time, does that work

I think it's always better for it to run cooler, but I havent seen any huge failure rates and Macs usually run pretty hot, so I am sure the engineers know what they are doing. Really haven't seen anything about problems with it, a couple cases here and there but nothing like the XBOX 360 RROD 54%.

I would consider a tower and external screen but they don't really make what I want there. Mini is okay but I'd rather have a little bit larger with a GPU and desktop CPU in there. Mac Pro can be had for $1800 new (slightly older model) but that is a shade much for me as well. Like to see a $1499 desktop and add an ultrasharp to that but can;t see that happening.

I just like teasing the thin stuff. If I was buddies with Ive I would call him often and tease him all the time. All in good fun. I would always have a white drop cloth as well to drape behind me when I spoke to him. ha

lol and shave your head while using loads of hand gestures

 

[Lankyman]

Actually, Apple still remains the innovator. Even if it drags folks like you into the future. You can campaign, complain, and bitch & whine, etc. all you want.

Tablets already invented way before the iPad, iPad mini, Apple chasing the pack, yes you're obviously right.

 

[the8thark]

When you put it like that, then yes, but......

Yes I am right. But . . . so are you. We both have differing but equally valid points about this.

Plus when the day comes that your Mini is replaced you still have the Apple Cinema Display to use again or sell, lowering the cost of ownership again.

Yes lower overall "over many Macs" ownership. But you have to enter the market at some point. You don't start out with a computer or a screen. You start out with nothing and have to buy both. My point is the base iMac is the cheapest entry point for an Apple display and an Apple computer. Add in ram or whatever and you up the cost obviously.

Don't get me wrong the new iMac looks great & given a choice id order a 27" right now, but arguing the case that the new 21.5 inch iMac is better value is flawed.

My whole point was really the iMac is cheaper then the Mini as an Apple Display entry point. Was not comparing the specs of the 2 computers. But if you want to go down that route, the iMac has a faster cpu, dedicated graphics card, the 27" iMac says "8GB (two 4GB) of 1600MHz DDR3 memory;four user-accessible SO-DIMM slots". The 21.5" and Mini don't say "user-accessible SO-DIMM slots". And we all assume the 21.5" is not user accessible ram. Not sure if it's been officially stated anywhere if the Mac Mini's ram is user accessible to or not.

If you ever want to upgrade it you have to do it at point of purchase at a significant cost increase, if not and you stick with the stock RAM your computer will run like a hog after a couple of OS upgrades forcing you to upgrade Macs at a quicker rate, increasing the overall cost of Mac ownership over time. The lower RAM will also have a knock-on effect in regards to resell value.

Well I've kept my iMacs for 5-6 years on average. Bought one in 2001 then 2006, then 2011. So I don't see the "runs like a hog" issue at all. The 2006 iMac still runs fine for most things. And even if you don't upgrade the iMac ram. 8GB is no slouch. I have 16GB in my current iMac but most days I don't use more then 8GB of that.

So I see your point. If you already have a screen, then the Mac Mini is a good option if you don't want a dedicated gpu etc etc. But if you have neither a Mac or an Apple display and you want both. I still believe the iMac is the best entry point.

 

[Jamiednm]

I'm not bothered about upgradability or customisation of iMacs - the base specs of the machine I go for will be powerful enough to handle my professional and general home use needs. I rarely use the DVD drive on my current iMac (and can do without it altogether if needs be), so as long as the 2012 iMac is reliable and maintains a good level of performance for a good 4-5 years as my current one has, then I think the design is great.

 

[Garden4Gods]

I'm not bothered about upgradability or customisation of iMacs - the base specs of the machine I go for will be powerful enough to handle my professional and general home use needs. I rarely use the DVD drive on my current iMac (and can do without it altogether if needs be), so as long as the 2012 iMac is reliable and maintains a good level of performance for a good 4-5 years as my current one has, then I think the design is great.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. The base 21.5" has received alot of criticism, which I can understand, but the specs are ideal for my needs and I'm sure will be for alot of users.

It is very expensive though for what you get (1399 Euro here), so I am weighing up alternatives incase I change my mind,...e.g an i7 Mac Mini with Monitor.

 

[driftless]

Tablets already invented way before the iPad, iPad mini, Apple chasing the pack, yes you're obviously right.

Ummm, this is an iMac not an iPad thread but Apple did change the tablet market. Before the iPad, tablets were not really functional nor taken seriously.

 

[vladfein]

I do think this is a big step in the evolution of the iMac - no Sdrive, new screen lamination - 75% less reflection, thinner screen, thinner design, lighter, less volume, fusion drive.

Giant leap for iMac, small step for mankind.

 

[Lankyman]

Ummm, this is an iMac not an iPad thread but Apple did change the tablet market. Before the iPad, tablets were not really functional nor taken seriously.

The response was about innovation. Apple make a nice product no doubt. However nice isn't innovation is it?

 

[driftless]

I would consider the iPad innovative, although not radical. I take your point though.

 

[435713]

lol and shave your head while using loads of hand gestures

LOL. I would need the accent as well.

I bet Ive gets loads of girls. Has all that money too. And a white background.