2012 iMac = Brilliant Design!

[eric/]

You'll have to ignore them. There's always negativity no matter what the design/product is.

I think ignoring is a bad idea. I really like the design of the new iMac (thought idk about the i5).

But you should also take into consideration negative comments, or people who don't think it's great, because there are plenty of good points to be made, of course ignoring trolling.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I think ignoring is a bad idea. I really like the design of the new iMac (thought idk about the i5).

But you should also take into consideration negative comments, or people who don't think it's great, because there are plenty of good points to be made, of course ignoring trolling.

Not really. We'd still have the floppy drive if Apple actually listened to those negative comments.

 

[Paulywauly]

Not really. We'd still have the floppy drive if Apple actually listened to those negative comments.

When removing the floppy drive initially from its first iMac Apple encouraged use of future technologies such as writable CDs/USB/Firewire. It didn't cripple its base model with a none replaceable/upgradable, inferior laptop hard drive. In this case the only thing Apple is encouraging is for people to spend more money than they did on their last iMac.

 

[eric/]

Not really. We'd still have the floppy drive if Apple actually listened to those negative comments.

No that's an inaccurate comparison or you're just missing the point, which is simply just because somebody says something negative doesn't mean they aren't right.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

No that's an inaccurate comparison or you're just missing the point, which is simply just because somebody says something negative doesn't mean they aren't right.

The vast majority of the negativity involves getting rid of soon to be obsolete technology such as optical drives and making it less user upgradable. So far Apple seems to be winning in that direction so they're obviously wrong.

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When removing the floppy drive initially from its first iMac Apple encouraged use of future technologies such as writable CDs/USB/Firewire. It didn't cripple its base model with a none replaceable/upgradable, inferior laptop hard drive. In this case the only thing Apple is encouraging is for people to spend more money than they did on their last iMac.

Ditto for optical drive but there's lots of negativity surrounding that.

Crippling the base model is nothing new. They did exactly that when they first debuted the Aluminum iMac, giving the base model an inferior TN panel while the 24" got the IPS display.

 

[eric/]

The vast majority of the negativity involves getting rid of soon to be obsolete technology such as optical drives and making it less user upgradable. So far Apple seems to be winning in that direction so they're obviously wrong.

Agreed, but still ignoring the point, which is that ignoring negativity isn't a good idea.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Agreed, but still ignoring the point, which is that ignoring negativity isn't a good idea.

It's a good idea if the new iMac sales are through the roof. Who cares what 2% thinks if 98% will eventually cave and buy it.

 

[MacSignal]

I agree it's aesthetically appealing, however, it's done so at the cost of practicality, usability and upgradability.

Except it's a lot less aesthetically appealing when you have to start hanging external devices off of it that should/could be internal components.

 

[eric/]

It's a good idea if the new iMac sales are through the roof. Who cares what 2% thinks if 98% will eventually cave and buy it.

Because if those 2% are right on, say, the processor leading to something not working right, then those 98% that bought the product end up hating the company that sold it.

 

[Banjer]

I like the design, but realy, just tell me what the difference is with the 2011 model...
2011:

2012:

I doubt anyone can see the difference when you are using the business end of it.

 

[deconstruct60]

I like the design, but realy, just tell me what the difference is with the 2011 model...
....
I doubt anyone can see the difference when you are using the business end of it.

In a room with normal lighting I bet they will. These photos are taken to absolutely minimize the glossy/reflective effect of the screen. Without that minimization there likely will be a significant difference.

Did Apple need to go as thin as they did? That's more likely weight and its lifecycle cost than purely frontal view. But thinner in fusing glass to LCD panel. Yes. That was a top 3 complaint about the older iMac heard on this and other forums: too glossy a screen.

 

[Banjer]

In a room with normal lighting I bet they will. These photos are taken to absolutely minimize the glossy/reflective effect of the screen. Without that minimization there likely will be a significant difference.

That's just a technical feature, not part of the design realy..

 

[marzer]

So I'll buy a sexy black brick from NEC and attach a very fast Mini to it.

Somebody talking sexy monitors?

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS27A950DS/ZA

 

[deconstruct60]

That's just a technical feature, not part of the design realy..

Your assertion was about notice while using the device. Not about trying to myopically focus on the container. Glossy screens most definitely are noticeable and have impact on users .

 

[Lankyman]

It's a good idea if the new iMac sales are through the roof. Who cares what 2% thinks if 98% will eventually cave and buy it.

Companies like Apple will never innovate or give customers what they demand without people who campaign and complain when things aren't right. You're defeated before you get started if you simply accept whatever said company says is good for you. The acceptance and apathy from Apple users never ceases to amaze me - though thankfully not all.

 

[435713]

I like the design, but realy, just tell me what the difference is with the 2011 model...
2011:
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2012:
Image

I doubt anyone can see the difference when you are using the business end of it.

Well when you carry the iMac around the house and lug it everywhere like everyone does with a desktop, then the iMac being lighter will make a big difference. I move my desktops around everyday just for the heck of it. New Mac Pro will probably be the size of an Alienware x51 which will be nice when I lug it around the house from place to place.

 

[chilly willy]

I think you can admire the design but question the internals/functionality. I personally really wonder how this design will do from a heat standpoint with the higher powered gpu option.

Hope it runs like a charm and cool as ice, but not crazy to wonder about this.

 

[driftless]

Companies like Apple will never innovate or give customers what they demand without people who campaign and complain when things aren't right. You're defeated before you get started if you simply accept whatever said company says is good for you. The acceptance and apathy from Apple users never ceases to amaze me - though thankfully not all.

Actually, Apple still remains the innovator. Even if it drags folks like you into the future. You can campaign, complain, and bitch & whine, etc. all you want.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Because if those 2% are right on, say, the processor leading to something not working right, then those 98% that bought the product end up hating the company that sold it.

Manufacturing defects are a completely different story. We're talking about the direction they're going, which the negatively is mostly about.

Companies like Apple will never innovate or give customers what they demand without people who campaign and complain when things aren't right. You're defeated before you get started if you simply accept whatever said company says is good for you. The acceptance and apathy from Apple users never ceases to amaze me - though thankfully not all.

It's the other way around. If they actually listened to us, we'll still have the floppy drive, optical drive, etc. and therefore no innovation.

 

[RobinHood5]

I can't believe all the negative nonces!

The design is fantastic. It has 40 percent less volume, 8 pounds lighter (both good for the environment), less moving parts and a brand new screen design that will make the screens look so much better. I think this is the best design we've ever seen on an iMac.

Since when does anyone care if a desktop computer has 40% less volume or is 8 pounds lighter!?!?! They removed the optical drive, they still don't have a desktop graphics card, and no retina display. I highly doubt that an imac will ever suit my needs again as they become more and more consumer and less prosumer. I see myself getting a revamped Mac Pro in a few years.

 

[driftless]

Since when does anyone care if a desktop computer has 40% less volume or is 8 pounds lighter!?!?! They removed the optical drive, they still don't have a desktop graphics card, and no retina display. I highly doubt that an imac will ever suit my needs again as they become more and more consumer and less prosumer. I see myself getting a revamped Mac Pro in a few years.

Actually, the maxed out iMac will be seriously Pro, much less Prosumer.

 

[CoreyLahey]

It's the other way around. If they actually listened to us, we'll still have the floppy drive, optical drive, etc. and therefore no innovation.

That's a good point with the floppy drive

 

[smoking monkey]

Wow, there are quite a few people taking this new design as a personal insult. That Apple didn't create the exact machine they wanted and now they are chucking a hissy fit about it.

I do think this is a big step in the evolution of the iMac - no Sdrive, new screen lamination - 75% less reflection, thinner screen, thinner design, lighter, less volume, fusion drive.

These are not minor changes. A lot of change has gone into this iteration. And at this point, I personally feel, that it's a huge step for the iMac.

Now, it's still remains to be seen if there will be any major problems associated with all this newness. But I'm really liking what I see so far.

Sure, some people won't be happy about no superdrive... but you can get an external. Some are unhappy about the 21s 16gig max ram and i5s but for the vast majority of people who don't play FPS or do intense video/photo editing on a mac, the 21s are perfectly fine machines that will be more than capable of doing the job... just they are overpriced -- as with most things Apple, this is no surprise.

 

[turtlez]

Well when you carry the iMac around the house and lug it everywhere like everyone does with a desktop, then the iMac being lighter will make a big difference. I move my desktops around everyday just for the heck of it. New Mac Pro will probably be the size of an Alienware x51 which will be nice when I lug it around the house from place to place.

I see what you mean but if you can cram higher performing specs in it (latest on the market) then why not make it thinner if it will work. Less material, sleeker design even if you don't see difference from the business end of it. if they wanted to add a desktop GPU in there it would have to be a lot thicker than the 2011 model (bordering on a PC box similar design) so you may as well just get the tower and an external screen instead of an AIO. Also it would use more electricity which is what they are not going for. Notice how each iMac iteration boasts about less power consumption? That is a key selling point these days.

Summing it up, they couldn't have chosen better specs for this new iMac and they managed to put it in a machine that is slimmer (obviously better if it works). It will work or they wouldn't have made it because they would get returns deep into their pockets. I am sure the Apple engineers are smart enough to distribute heat.

Last thing, don't put something down until you try it.

 

[intz2nu]

I, too am loving every bit of it, though I kind of wanted to see a maybe more awesome stand and the other down side for me is it no longer having an optical drive. I know somethings had to be cut to get it this thin but damn it had to be the optical drive.