Anyone reckon that with the advances in technolgoy over the past 2 years....the mid level (ie top spec 21 inch) will have a GPU that is equal to the current top end 27?
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2012 iMac - next big date?
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My recollection (and I could be wrong) is that previous model refurbs probably won't drop in price until current model refurbs start showing up in the store. Usually it takes about 3-4 months for that to happen. At least that's what I seem to recall from watching the refurb store last year after the 2011s were released.
But I could be wrong.
What will be interesting to watch this time around is what happens if the new iMacs have certain undesirable design changes as sometimes rumored (less powerful/expandable in the name of anorexia). Will the 2011 refurbs suddenly become a hot item and difficult to get?
No way it would go down. No reason to. Airs have HD4000 just because there's no room for anything else.
At minimum, the 21's should have 650M and 660M. They could instead have 660M and 670MX.
I had been predicting that 2011 refurbs would probably drop another $200-$400, but maybe I am a bit too unrealistic about the amount... and I suppose the actual amount would in part depend upon the pricing and the features of the 2012 IMACs.
You're comparing a desktop device to mobile (and portable) devices. When I use an iPhone or iPad, it is a lot closer to my eyes than when I use an iMac. Retina display will be pretty redundant on an iMac screen that is more than a few inches away. A 15" rMPB user will be closer to the screen than a 27" iMac user (unless they have Superman vision).
Not to mention the fact that it would hike up the cost considerably for a feature which wouldn't be worth the price tag because of the reason I stated.
I agree and this is probably the reason we're not likely to see retina displays in the majority of laptops or desktops any time soon. Besides the fast they would need a quantum leap in graphics cards/chips to run them on the iMac size screens, further pushing up the price.
I have a 24" full HD screen on my desk, normally about 50-60 cm from my eyeballs and 20-20 vision. I can't see the pixels on the screen unless I sit uncomfortably close.
IF we get a retina iMac next week I can almost guarantee it will be a separate premium model, like the MBP retina and it will NOT be a 27" screen.
Its absolutely Weird People are pushing this Notion about "GPU power" still. THE Cheapest pis GPU you find Can run the 27" resolutions. The current imac can run 3x 27" resolutions and it would never ever rev up during normal use. Why is it again they can't run a 4k screen? Oh that's right, because they launched a 15" rMBP without proper rendering codes, ant sent it all in a dumb way to the CPU. But ye, lets all still comment on GPU power 4 months later like we are completely clueless.
Yeah i dont get it as well. Current iMacs can already push 4K resolution,any mobile GPU can push the pixels,even HD3000.
Of course playing 3D games at those resolutions is completely different matter but for UI usage it's no problem.
The question is if it is really needee at such a high resolution in machines such as iMac. My bet is still on the 2013 "Pro" machine - be it retina iMac or redesigned Mac Pro with retina ATB.
Of course playing 3D games at those resolutions is completely different matter but for UI usage it's no problem.
The question is if it is really needee at such a high resolution in machines such as iMac. My bet is still on the 2013 "Pro" machine - be it retina iMac or redesigned Mac Pro with retina ATB.
I really don't think there will be a 2012 retina iMac. But it's not a technology issue like every poster and his mom loves to write about. It's a cost issue.
It may even be a non-issue as Apple may only ever intend it for the laptop line.
Its also senseless because Apples definiton of retina is that you see no pixels. At a 27" iMac you see almost no pixels at normal viewing distance -> retina.
IMO thats the main reason.
I doubt it. Infact in desktop it makes more sense. The prosumers are the ones that mostly need ekstra sharpness and screen real estate. The notion that its better for laptop because you sit close is bullocks. Retina means not seeing the pixels at the distance you use. That's why retina for iPad is 326 dpi, but 220 for rMBPs. The DPI requirement will be smaller for a 27" and it's closer to the current resolution than the old laptop resolutions were to their new retina resolution.
Retina is coming to all screen sizes, and as soon as other manufacturer can sell products as ridiculously high priced as Apple does, or cost goes down, they will follow suit. Resolution hasn't moved for a long time due to hardware, but the hardware is extremely capable nowadays, and retina, IMHO, is the next step before useful 3D etc.
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That's why they should absolutely go retina. The diff in resolution is small, and they get to put the retina tag on it. It's not senseless. I wouldn't pay 500usd ekstra for it, but its definitely not senseless.
If there would be a retina iMac on Tuesday there would be model numbers leaked. There have been numbers for everything that was announced at wwdc, so unless they plan to launch it some months later i see no chance for it.
yeah and as the rumor goes the 21" iMac will be released first and the 27 sometime later and "screen lamination issues" this is pointing to a Retina display...also a 21.5" Retina is only 6.1 inches bigger than the MBPr so very plausible.
Wrong. This is pointing towars the iMacs using the same screen-lamination-process AS the Retina Macbook Pro. This process has on its own absolutely zero to do with the screen's resolution.
Because releasing a new design for non-retina MBP at the same time as introducing Retina MBP is an incredibly stupid move marketing-wise, just granting the Retina MBP a new design glorifies it more.
Because of extra costs and would be almost equivalent to a redesign. Also may well have cannibalized sales of the rMBP or at least taken the gloss of it...pardon the pun hahah.
ok none knows why they had screen lamination issues with the iMac and whether it has to do with screen resolution, we'll just see what happens so don't try to sound like you know better
We're not trying to sound like we know more, but I do try to share what knowledge I have about computers and what is credible to hope for and not. The lamination issues with the iMac screens were supposedly only for the 27"-model and using a retina resolution that high with the GPU's the iMac's form factor allows is incredibly unlikely.
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