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Yes. It's using a design that is 7+ years old. My laptop is smaller. My iPad is smaller. My iPhone is smaller. These are all designs that got smaller in a shorter amount of time.

And those are all portable devices. When a device needs to be carried around obviously size and weight are critical factors. Not so much for a desktop.
 
And those are all portable devices. When a device needs to be carried around obviously size and weight are critical factors. Not so much for a desktop.

Design changes. Using a 7+ year old design is stupid. Is this even a discussion? That the iMac should never change size? Do you still use a pager?
 
Thinner? Whew, am I glad they're focusing on that! But more importantly, has someone finally gotten around to ensuring that all the chips on the logic boards are oriented so the text on them is aligned the same way? Oh, and most important, that the grams of glue used to affix the screen is a prime number? I hope so.

Let all those Apple wannabe's out there keep spinning their wheels worrying about frivolities like speed enhancements, graphical processing power, RAM, and fast, roomy storage options. Losers. :roll eyes:

Yes, I still want an iMac. I just hope they improve the stuff that matters along with the silly stuff too.
 

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Yes. It's using a design that is 7+ years old. My laptop is smaller. My iPad is smaller. My iPhone is smaller. These are all designs that got smaller in a shorter amount of time.

And yet the iMac grew from 15" to the current 27" and some were hoping we'd see a 32" model with this refresh.

We also saw much wailing and gnashing of teeth when the MBP 17" was EOLd.

We should probably be carping that the new iMac does not have a 3" iPhone screen... :p
 
And those are all portable devices. When a device needs to be carried around obviously size and weight are critical factors. Not so much for a desktop.

You still use CRT monitors and cathode TV?

Even stationary things gets smaller. It is a design thing. Makes it look alot better.

Ofcourse it shouldnt impact peformance too much, but I highly doubt that Apple will release an iMac that is inferior to the current one
 
And yet the iMac grew from 15" to the current 27" and some were hoping we'd see a 32" model with this refresh.

We should probably be carping that the new iMac does not have a 3" iPhone screen... :p

I wasn't talking about screen size :confused:. Everyone is talking about how thin it getting.
 
I think I'm not in the demographic that Apple is aiming for these days. To me the concept of a thinner iMac is just plain stupid. Who cares what you don't see behind the screen? iMac backsides only look cool in Apple Stores.

I would prefer an iMac that has some real guts to it, more mechanical HDDs or SSDs as the customer prefers. Easily replaceable HDDs would really be great. "Oh my! There's a seam in the back of my iMac that I never look at!"

And how about some real, effective cooling. Full-size RAM slots would be nice too. I'm almost afraid to mention the option of a mat screen.

I just don't get why so many Apple users want average performing, effeminate, light-weight machines. Maybe Apple should have coined the term "Metro".
 
When it is thin enough, and light enough, that customers can carry it into the store for service/training or out after buying by themselves it will be enough

I dread to think what may happen if this logic is applied to the Mac Pro.
 
Design changes. Using a 7+ year old design is stupid. Is this even a discussion? That the iMac should never change size? Do you still use a pager?

You mean yet another portable device?

For the umpteenth time, there are compromises. On a portable device, where size and weight at priorites, those compromises are usually worth it. On a desktop the priority is not size and weight, it's performance and versatility.

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You still use CRT monitors and cathode TV?

Even stationary things gets smaller. It is a design thing. Makes it look alot better.

Ofcourse it shouldnt impact peformance too much, but I highly doubt that Apple will release an iMac that is inferior to the current one

Of course I don't still use CRT. But LCD doesn't compromise the performance and versatility of the machine!
 
I dread to think what may happen if this logic is applied to the Mac Pro.

The Mac Mini Server may have been a forshadowing...


On a desktop the priority is not size and weight, it's performance and versatility.

Evidently not if your Apple.

Anyway, the thread about waiting for a new iMac cleared 2200 posts. I expect we'll surpass that debating the merits of the new iMac. :)
 
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I remember an old technology rule that said 'every two years computers either become twice as fast, half the price or half the size"

and we know its not going to be cheeper, its not going to be much faster ( not like the change form C2D to i series anyway). So that just leave the size.

So to all those saying size makes no difference or can't see the point its simple business if you can't do either of the first to options to get people to buy then you do the third.
 
Even if Apple releases a radical new design iMac with SSD and Retina LCD I doubt they will not have a base model around the current price. Without a $1199US iMac it would turn off too many customers, Apple can't afford to do that.

Yes I know their desktop make up a tiny percentage of their profits.

Hope we get some news on the Mini as well but I don't see them redesigning that case so maybe it will just get the Ivy Bridge updates and be put on the Apple store, aka the 'new' 2012 Mac Pro.
 
Not likely. The 15-inch was announced at developer days (or something with a similar name), not as a separate media event.

The 13-inch is a far less important announcement (because it's just an existing product in a new size). It doesn't merit a press event, but it would be a nice add-on to the Mini in the "and one more thing" vein.

I rest my case. Now lets see this laptop! :)
 
Yes. It's using a design that is 7+ years old. My laptop is smaller. My iPad is smaller. My iPhone is smaller. These are all designs that got smaller in a shorter amount of time.
Huh? 7+ what now? With your sense of time, you must have housefly DNA.
The current iMac 16:9 21.5"/27" design is from 2010. It has an aluminum back and is thinner than the previous 16:10 iMac (20"/24"), also aluminum but with a black plastic back. That one came out in 2007, 5 years ago. 7+ years would place you in the white G5 iMac era. That thing was thick as a brick. If you're seriously suggesting that the design hasn't been updated since then, you need glasses that are much thicker than any iMac.

Anyway, with the optical drive gone, the side of the iMac needn't be flat because there's nothing left except that stupid SD card slot. I wouldn't cry if they ditched that one. So they could go with really thin edges... but then the iMac would be thinner than the Thunderbolt display. Not that it would be the first time... when the 2007 iMac came out they were still selling the 30" display which was way thicker than the iMac.
 
Wait or buy today?

Everything said so far disappoints me greatly as it's all about Apple making the iMac less attractive (removing stuff, making it more expensive and impossible to upgrade). I've been putting off my purchase because I've hoped for improved specs and features: USB 3, matte screen option and probably a speed boost.
I've had my eyes on the BTO i7 (21."5 screen) and I do want a DVD. I also want the possibility of adding third party RAM myself.

What happens if you order a iMac today (BTO (Built To Order) or "regular") and a new iMac is released a couple of days later? Do you receive the iMac you actually ordered, or do Apple take the liberty to deliver the newer one either you like it or not (at the "old" price of course)?

I guess if Apple releases a more expensive but less featured update, making the "old" (current, today that is) more attractive then the only way to get one of those is second hand (makes you wonder if people will actually raise the price of their previous generation iMacs then). Apple doesn't sell "old stock", do they? And probably not BTO models.
 
I wonder what is meant by it being so thin from a side profile that one cannot gauge its thickness. What are we talking here, less than a quarter of an inch?

Imagine the display of the 15" Retina MacBook Pro as a 21" or 27" iMac Display:

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I am looking at what this update will carry on the inside as much as the aesthetics of the machine. I love Apple designs, but if it gets to the point we are talking form over function, as in an iMac that is crazy slim, but carries a lot less GPU and CPU power and flexibility than cheaper (less pretty) alternatives, that's a problem. To me iMacs and Macs in general always achieved a nice balance of looks and function, and just want to see the same thing now - especially if price going up.

It is so nice to be talking about a real iMac rumor though!
 
Everything said so far disappoints me greatly as it's all about Apple making the iMac less attractive (removing stuff, making it more expensive and impossible to upgrade). I've been putting off my purchase because I've hoped for improved specs and features: USB 3, matte screen option and probably a speed boost.
I've had my eyes on the BTO i7 (21."5 screen) and I do want a DVD. I also want the possibility of adding third party RAM myself.

What happens if you order a iMac today (BTO (Built To Order) or "regular") and a new iMac is released a couple of days later? Do you receive the iMac you actually ordered, or do Apple take the liberty to deliver the newer one either you like it or not (at the "old" price of course)?

I guess if Apple releases a more expensive but less featured update, making the "old" (current, today that is) more attractive then the only way to get one of those is second hand (makes you wonder if people will actually raise the price of their previous generation iMacs then). Apple doesn't sell "old stock", do they? And probably not BTO models.

I theres no DVD drive and user upgradable ram, no buy for me.
 
Hey Tim, just wondering how thin is thin enough? How lite is lite enough? I buy Apple products because they are of the highest quality on the market. However, as I have noted with the iPhone 5, it is so light it feels cheeply made. It feels like its so fragile that it will crack easily. With the quality issues it has, perhaps it is cheeply made.
Hey Tim, Apple products are the best available. They have presence. Please don't follow the path the other guys have chosen. Lite, thin, plastic and glue? That's the other guys, not Apple.

The iPhone 5 is the best smartphone that is offered today.

"Light" does not mean "cheap."

I got used to the weight of my iPhone 5 during the first day of use. After which, the iPhone 5 feels like the new norm, and the iPhone 4S feels like a clunky brick, which I would not have said a few weeks ago.
 
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So a SATA internal DVD drive is slower than a external one? I don't think so.

I have a external DVD drive from samsung and its slow as molasses. I bought that for a .. Ahem.. netbook which is a paperweight at the moment.

Trust me, a full-height external 24x/48x USB DVD drive is noticeably faster than the internal slot-loading drives found in iMacs. (Look for those that look like a "PC" DVD drive inside an external case, not the fancy slim drives for laptops)

My friend rips and burns a lot of DVD/CD and buying a 70$ external DVD burner was the best investment he's ever made in terms of upgrading his iMac, it's like more than 5x faster in ripping and burning.

The problem with the iMac DVD drive is not the data interface, but the fact that they use slot-loading laptop models which are slower (and less reliable for heavy usage).
 
I guess if Apple releases a more expensive but less featured update, making the "old" (current, today that is) more attractive then the only way to get one of those is second hand (makes you wonder if people will actually raise the price of their previous generation iMacs then). Apple doesn't sell "old stock", do they? And probably not BTO models.

You might want to bookmark this page. If you do not like the new iMac, you can buy one of these at a great price.

Keep in mind that Apple's refurbished products, in my experience, are packaged exactly like brand new models, with the same warranty. And refurbished Macs are eligible for upgrades to Mountain Lion at no charge.
 
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