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It's all about Tim Cook's obsession to minimize costs as much as possible so he can squeeze out every ounce of profit from customers, suppliers, contractors, etc. He probably figures the Mac fans will sit and grumble about the delay but go out and buy the product anyway so why should he care if it's delayed.

And he's probably correct. We have scores of threads - some with literally thousands of replies - about people anxiously waiting for the next iMac.

I expect this one will sell extremely well, regardless of components, form factor and price.
 
Implying you couldnt do that with an cheap external.

There is no need for an iMac to have an built in ODD drive now.


That's true that you could do it with an external drive but many folks do not want to have to buy a separate device to do that especially when a prior model was capable without external devices...It kind of defeats the purpose of an all in one...It's very strange, go thinner for better form factor by removing an optical drive, yet now you have to buy an additional drive thus losing any advantage the extra thinness gave in form factor and then some...There still is a need for an optical disk drive.


Form factor is always nice, but not if it compromises reliability, user serviceability, usability, or power...
 
And he's probably correct. We have scores of threads - some with literally thousands of replies - about people anxiously waiting for the next iMac.

I expect this one will sell extremely well, regardless of components, form factor and price.

Exactly.

This won't be "OMG SOLD OUT" like the iPhones, but there be a greater demand for this iMac vs the 2011 models (at the time). I know I'll be first in line for a 27" with AppleCare.
 
Dust under the screen also hasn't happened for me. Even if it did, the glass pulls right of and can be cleaned.

The "dust" or "smudge" problem doesn't affect the underneath of the glass but the back of the panel itself, very often right over the gpu heatsink. It may not even be particle contamination but some corruption of the panel in the affected area.

Thinner may look better, but I hope this problem's also taken care of.
 
Sounds like you are the perfect candidate for a windows box. How an Apple machine "looks" has been in the company DNA since after the Apple 1 (disregarding of course the lost years Steve was gone). If you are a designer how something looks is important. If you are an accountant it doesn't.

Close. Actually I'm the perfect candidate for a Mac Pro. I've got a 2010 3.2GHz quad with five WD RE4 2TB drives, 24GB RAM and a Blu-ray drive. If need be I can up it to a 3.46GHz hexacore and 48GB RAM.

It's a beautiful piece of machinery, it's user configurable, and it gets the job done.

BTW, it's also Snow Leopard box, a Windows 7 box and in a couple of weeks a Windows 8 box. It just depends on which disks I slide into it.
 
I agree about the Mac Pro being an eye sore. There have been folks talking about Apple making a more 'Pro' Mac Mini model and from a looks point of view I agree with much of their thoughts. The idea is a base tower that would look something like 3-4 minis stacked together. RAM, graphics cards etc would install via removable back plates and snap in pieces (not unlike RAM in the iMacs). SSDs might also be the same. Additional/HDD storage would connect via thunderbolt (with a major drop in price) including drives either made by Apple or licensed to use the Mac Mini look so they create a cohesive look. not sure how practical it is but on the looks front I love the idea

Oh, I like that idea very much. That would be interesting indeed. Thinking about separate components today reminded me of the G4 Cube, something I could not afford at the time but I wanted very much.
 
I'm getting worried. Giving up an ODD, 3.5" Drives and user upgradeable memory for maybe a 0.5" thinner iMac isn't a good tradeoff in a "desktop" machine IMO.
 
You have an option right now - the Pro and 2011 iMac. You won't likely have an option for the 2012 iMac. I'm sorry, but times change. Apple dropped the Floppy and people marched on. They dropped the Disc drive from laptops and people continue to march on. And soon - the iMac. If Apple doesn't even sell it's own software on disc why would they continue to support a dying medium?

lol Dude....You're totally missing it.......You would have a point if DVD was being replaced with a superior form of user controllable physical media storage device....lol....Floppy was replaced with a superior physical media storage so quit trying to compare floppy to dvd/cd.....But now physical media is being abandoned by apple it's a losing situation for people that love using the apple operating system and products in general that desire the advantages of physical media storage...There are so many advantages to having portable physical media storage like a dvd...
 
The design is pretty much the same dating back to the G5 iMac. It hasn't changed much at all. What we are apparently going to see is a major change. Much like the old flower pot G4 to G5. You can argue it's gotten "thinner" over the years, but the design remains nearly identical. OD drive on one side, sitting on the same, similar stand etc.
So because it's still a display with the computer on the back, still sitting on a similar L-shaped stand, the design remains nearly identical? Like a 2012 BMW is nearly identical to a 1978 Datsun because they both have 4 wheels, seats, windshield, headlights and a steering wheel?
By that logic, all the things you listed in supposed contrast to the iMac have remained nearly identical as well. The iPhone has only gotten a bit taller and thinner, but it's still a big display with a home button, a mic and a speaker. The Retina MBP is a traditional laptop with a lid that holds the display and a base that holds a keyboard and a trackpad, it's gotten a little thinner but it's "nearly identical" to 7+ year old PowerBooks. Soo disappointing and uncreative, I was hoping for something refreshing like replacing the keyboard with voice control and placing the display (now refreshingly spherical) on a long thin string that you attach to the ceiling.

The original iMac looked the way it had to look because of the CRT monitor. The flower pot was a weird missing link they conjured up before they could figure out how the hell to put the computer behind the display. With the G5 they solved it, and the iMac was 'home' -- it's a monitor on a stand, with a computer hiding behind the display. If you think the next iMac won't be another just like it, only perhaps thinner and chinless, you will be disappointed.
 
So my wife's coworker is from China. I showed her this leaked iMac photo from my iPhone and asked if she could read the chinese writing that was added to the image. I guess I was really expecting something interesting! I was so excited when she said "yes".

She read it from left to right:

"fan"
"wire"
"bluetooth"

I was like ohhhhhhh. Thankssssss.

Was really hoping it would be more intresting information :eek:
 
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lol Dude....You're totally missing it.......You would have a point if DVD was being replaced with a superior form of user controllable physical media storage device....lol....Floppy was replaced with a superior physical media storage so quit trying to compare floppy to dvd/cd.....But now physical media is being abandoned by apple it's a losing situation for people that love using the apple operating system and products in general that desire the advantages of physical media storage...There are so many advantages to having portable physical media storage like a dvd...

DVD/Blu/CD replacement is digital but that is a ways off. No matter what fluff you hear on the net it is a good 15 years before that is totally gone. Probably more. Sad thing is you really co-own media more than ever when it goes all digital. Not a future I look forward to personally unless DRM gets to be less a PITA.

It's cute Apple and some fans think they dictate forward movements on media like floppy dying. Truth is: Dell,Lenovo etc.. will have CHOICES to have it for those that need it built in for quite some time without having to cough up extra on already overpriced systems. The many other electronic makers dictate that movement, Apple dictates nothing there.

Even CD's actually still sell for quite a bit of marketshare still. If anyone thinks video will be there in a couple years is delusional.

Honestly Apple is being better about things than they need to be. A real evil CEO could literally raise prices on everything and gimp the products some more and the image still sells. Be nice if they had to play by the rules like the other PC makers, you would have fantastic machines that would blow what they have currently away. Not a perfect world I guess. *shrugs*
 
lol Dude....You're totally missing it.......You would have a point if DVD was being replaced with a superior form of user controllable physical media storage device....lol....Floppy was replaced with a superior physical media storage so quit trying to compare floppy to dvd/cd.....But now physical media is being abandoned by apple it's a losing situation for people that love using the apple operating system and products in general that desire the advantages of physical media storage...There are so many advantages to having portable physical media storage like a dvd...
No offense dude, but you sound like an 8-track-hugging hippie.

There are 256GB USB flash drives, that's 54 DVDs on a little stick you can put on your key ring. There are 2TB mobile hard drives the size of two DVD keep cases, that's 425 DVDs. Data transfer is blazing fast and I assure you that portability isn't a problem. You can bring those 54 movies on your keyring drive and plug it into a modern LED TV that plays them. So what exactly are the advantages of these rotating plastic discs that you obviously prefer? Is it the lunchbreak you can go on while a laser burns information into them?
 
Yes, there are.

Having a dying technology in your AIO makes it laughable. Apple is known the be on the cusp of new technology and including something that is being dropped from stores is silly.

I'm sure Apple has enough statistics to show that people are using the drive less and less and removing it won't hurt sales.

But hey, let's toss in a Floppy drive too and an additional CD/DVD drive. While were at it lets get more Memory card readers (which I hope they drop too. No stupid slot i'll never use. )

Dude, you're not even making sense....Floppy was replaced with better physical media storage....Apple may be on the cusp of new technology in many areas, but unfortunately they aren't in this respect...They're simply leaving user controlled portable physical media altogether...So apple is now in no man's land in the event a more technologically advanced and reliable form of portable physical media storage is invented that replaces cd/dvd.
 
Dude, you're not even making sense....Floppy was replaced with better physical media storage....Apple may be on the cusp of new technology in many areas, but unfortunately they aren't in this respect...They're simply leaving user controlled portable physical media altogether...So apple is now in no man's land in the event a more technologically advanced and reliable form of portable physical media storage is invented that replaces cd/dvd.

A few years ago some guys made this disk thing called BluRay or HD DVD or something. I think they were turned into vampires and shot by Lincoln (citation needed). Also my buddy just gave me his entire porn collection on the tiniest stick....

I wonder what that all means.
 
My point is that a DVD drive is hardly useless.

And sure you could use an external, though that kinda takes away from the "all-in-one" factor.

I used to go through blank DVDs like there was no tomorrow, then all of a sudden I just stopped using them. I hardly ever put a blank or non-blank DVD into my optical drive. I bought 100 blank DVDs 2 or 3 years ago (I used to go through that many in a few months) and I still have some sitting on the spindle blank and unused. It's crazy how life changed from using the optical drive to not using it very much at al. The only time I use it now is when I can't be bothered to give someone access to my DropBox or SugarSync account to get some stuff I want to give to them.

A new desktop without an ODD is nothing but responding to our changing needs. If you need one, get one and share it amongst your laptop (mine is an MBA) and (now) desktop, and the rest of the time stick it in your desk and be happy you aren't paying for the same unused component (and supporting resource requirements) in multiple devices in your possession.
 
Please keep it with desktop processors! Thinner isn't always better!

It is in Apple's niche market I guess. Hardly heard anyone asking for thinner but all of a sudden it's magical.

Apple breeds the worst fanboys, it's not even a contest.
 
Ok now I have a funny one. DVD wouldn't even be able to beat McCain 2008 (it's THAT old).

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It is in Apple's niche market I guess. Hardly heard anyone asking for thinner but all of a sudden it's magical.

Apple breeds the worst fanboys, it's not even a contest.

Ye totally. Stupid Apple, making products that people buy... What a bunch of ******s. Iknow right?
 
I used to go through blank DVDs like there was no tomorrow, then all of a sudden I just stopped using them. I hardly ever put a blank or non-blank DVD into my optical drive. I bought 100 blank DVDs 2 or 3 years ago (I used to go through that many in a few months) and I still have some sitting on the spindle blank and unused. It's crazy how life changed from using the optical drive to not using it very much at al. The only time I use it now is when I can't be bothered to give someone access to my DropBox or SugarSync account to get some stuff I want to give to them.

A new desktop without an ODD is nothing but responding to our changing needs. If you need one, get one and share it amongst your laptop (mine is an MBA) and (now) desktop, and the rest of the time stick it in your desk and be happy you aren't paying for the same unused component (and supporting resource requirements) in multiple devices in your possession.
I do not have an optical drive in my desktop anymore. If I really need one, I have a USB external tucked away in storage. I still use a lot of optical media for movies or for books on CD from the library but I can play those on the Blu-ray player or CD player in my car.

I get weird looks from people I do not include an optical drive when I build a computer for them though...
 
The latest rumors on this new iMac computer that Apple is supposedly making is that they're ditching the 3.5" floppy drive. I have many old floppies which would be impossible to use without an external drive. :p

You could insert 8-tracks, cassettes, 5.25" floppies, VHS, etc etc... At some point they have to move on...

that argument sounds like the person that wrote this article in 1998


Again, that would be funny but you're comparing physical media storage that was replaced by better physical media storage technology...In this case it's the cd/dvd and it is being replaced by nothing as 8track, cassette, floppy, and vhs were...And no, the "cloud" is not the same...So your point is a logical fallacy
 
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