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2012 iMac Said to Carry Thinner Design, Alleged Internals Photo Surfaces
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You mean to tell me that they bicker on Chinese web forums too?? I thought we were the only ones.
Have been waiting about 2 months for this to be released since mine died, is it suspected to be released on the 23rd or just revealed? Also, how much longer will we have to wait for the 27"? I know currently everything is rumors but what do you guys think?
Slot optical drives have not budged speed-wise in at least 5 years. You still see another x1-2 every year or two from those 5.25" monsters. Even for DVD speeds.
The laptops are using the laptop versions of the CPUs (and other chips) that are designed to be smaller and lower power. The desktop chips are different. I don't want Apple to use laptop parts in a desktop just to look 1% cooler and sacrifice performance or increase cost to do so.
I'd much rather, instead of thinner, they make it narrower. I use a 27" iMac with 2 27" monitors on either side and the huge bezels are really annoying in the middle of my desktop. Any change to the depth of the computer would be totally invisible to me when I'm sitting in front of it.
For small, light, and thin, I have my MBA 11". I don't want design decisions on a 27", 30lb desktop based on shaving off a 1/2"!!
David
You mean to tell me that they bicker on Chinese web forums too?? I thought we were the only ones.
LOL!
Then at post 277 (sometime on Sunday when this story first hit MacRumors) they linked to MacRumors and said the OP has made news on foreign websites!
I got a chuckle out of this!
iMac = iPad Pro
I'd like to see the next generation iMac more like an iPad on an iMac G4 pedestal: A thin display on an articulated neck that you can move from keyboard/touchpad mode (upright) to touch (flat on the desk) and from landscape to portrait.
It would run OSX (not iOS) but would offer a touch UI to professionals who can benefit from it. Touch isn't a gimmick for photographers and graphic designers. I use iPhoto on iOS as a photographer but wish there was an Aperture for iOS or at least a touch screen iMac.
However, I don't think this is it. The next iMac will probably be the last version of the "chin iMac" before a real overhaul is made with OSX 10.9 allowing for touch and orientation changes in OSX.
I'd like to see the next generation iMac more like an iPad on an iMac G4 pedestal: A thin display on an articulated neck that you can move from keyboard/touchpad mode (upright) to touch (flat on the desk) and from landscape to portrait.
It would run OSX (not iOS) but would offer a touch UI to professionals who can benefit from it. Touch isn't a gimmick for photographers and graphic designers. I use iPhoto on iOS as a photographer but wish there was an Aperture for iOS or at least a touch screen iMac.
However, I don't think this is it. The next iMac will probably be the last version of the "chin iMac" before a real overhaul is made with OSX 10.9 allowing for touch and orientation changes in OSX.
Hi! Longtime lurker, first time poster.
Sorry if this allready been up in this thread. Hard to keep up sometimes.
I found these:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161127
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161107
Is this "the real deal"? It's posted today (15 october) and "13,1" is... strange?
EDIT: Ahh! Stupid Haugiz steeling my thunder
Copied from another iMac thread, it's coming
Copied from another iMac thread, it's coming
Not much improvement over the current models. Lower than the MBP retina 64bit test. Kind of disappointing unless I'm missing something here:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks
Not much improvement over the current models. Lower than the MBP retina 64bit test. Kind of disappointing unless I'm missing something here:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks
I guess we now know the price of making it thinner...
Really?
We have a love affair with thinness - has anyone brought a new TV recently? I agree that making an already difficult scenario to service iMacs worse is not what I desire - but it is an Apple way and it appears most are OK with that. A thinner display will be impressive looking if nothing else!
We have a love affair with thinness - has anyone brought a new TV recently? I agree that making an already difficult scenario to service iMacs worse is not what I desire - but it is an Apple way and it appears most are OK with that. A thinner display will be impressive looking if nothing else!
Maybe they'll be even thinner in 2013 with Haswell. You can drop the discrete GPU for the Intel HD 5000 IGP and use 45W mobile CPUs instead of the 95W desktop ones to reduce the heat and allow for thinner frames.
I really hope some of the speculation discussed here does not come true. I moved to MAC in 2010 and don't want to go back and build a Windows PC, been there, done that for 30+ years.
However, I will, if having a MAC means a way underpowered machine, with integrated Intel Graphics with a big screen, but it "Looks Nice/Thin etc."
I do more with my Mac than just surf the web and check email. So no I don't want an Ipad on a stand etc. I want a true powerful Desktop Machine.
However, I will, if having a MAC means a way underpowered machine, with integrated Intel Graphics with a big screen, but it "Looks Nice/Thin etc."
I do more with my Mac than just surf the web and check email. So no I don't want an Ipad on a stand etc. I want a true powerful Desktop Machine.
Hard Drive Failure Rates
I haven't had a hard drive fail in any of my computers in quite a few years, personally, and I have a lot of them including three 12TB RAID enclosures. Then again, for external drives I pay a bit more for commercial use drives as opposed to consumer drives.
I know my citations here are just an insignificant "sample", but I am unaware of any data which indicates the life of a hard drive to be 2 years or less.
EDIT ADD: I also have an old Mac 1400C laptop and a Titanium G5 laptop, both of which still work, and never had a drive failure. I did have to replace the keyboard on the Titanium G5 (I literally wore it out...).
2008 iMac here, waiting for the new ones. That's about 4 years and no drive failure. GF has a 2007 - No HD problems. Friend with an old "white" iMac (I forget the year) - No hard drive problems. I also have an old "white" iMac G5 (PPC) on the kitchen table - No drive failure yet.
I haven't had a hard drive fail in any of my computers in quite a few years, personally, and I have a lot of them including three 12TB RAID enclosures. Then again, for external drives I pay a bit more for commercial use drives as opposed to consumer drives.
I know my citations here are just an insignificant "sample", but I am unaware of any data which indicates the life of a hard drive to be 2 years or less.
EDIT ADD: I also have an old Mac 1400C laptop and a Titanium G5 laptop, both of which still work, and never had a drive failure. I did have to replace the keyboard on the Titanium G5 (I literally wore it out...).
The big problem with iMacs (even the most recent model) is that the LEDs used for the screen seem to be crazy inefficient. My chinese no-name-brand flat screen TV is 46" and generates noticeably less heat than a 2011 27" iMac. If Apple (or its LCD partners) would just use more efficient LEDs, a large part of the heating problem would go away.
I was just in the Apple Mac store looking at iMacs. I'm thinking about buying one now in part because it has the ports I need and an internal DVD drive which may "go away" in the next iMac.
I'm seeing shipping dates of 2-4 business days in the Apple store. Did you order from the Apple store or somewhere else? I have read (I forget where) that 27" iMacs are getting harder to find. I assume they mean from anywhere but the Apple store, but I can't remember the details. The article had to do with "predicting" that new 27" iMacs were on the way and their reasoning was based upon that.
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There were no Titanium G5 laptops, b/c they would have been too hot. There were only Titanium G4s... You must have meant that you have a Titanium G4.
You're right. I have it in the closet and just checked. It says PowerBook G4. That was one sweet laptop in it's day. So was that old 1400C, for that matter.
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The last car I had that I could work on myself was a 1989 Mazda 626 Turbo. I have a 2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP now and other than an oil change it's really only serviceable by a dealer or very modern repair shop.
I mention this only because "non-repairable" is where we're at. TV sets are for the most part the same way these days. DIY repairs these days are for the very few with the necessary tools and other various equipment. And even there, the trend it towards sealed "recycle only" products.
I like the old Andy Griffith Mayberry shows, and I always get a chuckle when the "repair shop" is shown. I forget the guy's name, but he had toasters, TVs, etc. This is not to mention Goober and the garage. Those days are long gone. Technology marches on!
iMac problems - hope they are addressed!
someone earlier mentioned the iMac display 'dust behind the screen problem' - I'll echo this, I have a 24" 2009 iMac with this problem, which became apparent after only 2 years of owning the computer. I will not purchase another iMac if the next generation is still susceptible to this problem.
*and to those who will tell me to fix the problem myself...I'm not interested in a do-it-yourselfer, or I would have bought a PC!* I expect a premium product to behave like a premium product, and have a more than 2-year lifespan.
I'm mostly considering updating my iMac to a Macbook Pro 15", and purchasing a Thunderbolt display -- but I'm concerned that these displays will have the same problem as the iMacs, but that they have not been on the market long enough yet for significant problems to present. Does anyone have any info on the displays? In addition, I would not purchase a TB display until they've been updated with USB3.0 inputs.
someone earlier mentioned the iMac display 'dust behind the screen problem' - I'll echo this, I have a 24" 2009 iMac with this problem, which became apparent after only 2 years of owning the computer. I will not purchase another iMac if the next generation is still susceptible to this problem.
*and to those who will tell me to fix the problem myself...I'm not interested in a do-it-yourselfer, or I would have bought a PC!* I expect a premium product to behave like a premium product, and have a more than 2-year lifespan.
I'm mostly considering updating my iMac to a Macbook Pro 15", and purchasing a Thunderbolt display -- but I'm concerned that these displays will have the same problem as the iMacs, but that they have not been on the market long enough yet for significant problems to present. Does anyone have any info on the displays? In addition, I would not purchase a TB display until they've been updated with USB3.0 inputs.
With a couple of suction cups you can lift (in my case pull) the front glass off and then clean it with Windex or other glass cleaner. I don't have a dust problem but I have a very heavy duty whole house air cleaner so I don't have a dust problem. Even tables and such rarely have to be dusted more than once a month. There is a smoker in the house, though, and you can see where the smoke comes through around the screen - So I clean my screen when it begins to show (every 6 months or so). It takes less than 5 minutes and I don't even lay it down on it's "back" to do it. It's held in by magnets.
I think the dust problem occurs due to the cooling fans sucking dust into the case. Since the thunderbolt displays don't have active cooling, dust shouldn't be sucked in.
What do you think I am, a Martian? I would say I was an average user so if I would buy it I think so would a lot of other people. People who prefer a desktop machine but don't like the all-in-one iMac and can't afford the Mac Pro. Basically the vast majority of Windows users of which there are many millions around the world. It would be a huge market.
I know it won't happen because Steve was obsessed with all-in-one machines. The Mac Mini is only there to provide a solution for customers with not much money and the Mac Pro is only there to appease the pro users with something. Go into your local AppleStore and try and find a Mac Mini or Mac Pro. They're well and truly hidden away in the corner somewhere. They are the ugly kids Apple doesn't want you to buy when you can have their star pupil the iMac.
I would prefer a desktop Mac Mini/Pro hybrid with customisable options but if that's not possible why not just scrap them and build an iMac Air to appeal to the entry level market, a mass market standard iMac and an iMac Pro for high end users. Screen sizes 20", 24" and 28".
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No, that's just Ivy Bridge. Not much of an improvement CPU-wise. It will consume less power, however.