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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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That 2.9ghz is a dual core and the 'slower' 2.3ghz speed of the quad core macbook pro's would beat it for most workloads. Basically the rMBP has a quad core whereas the 13" has a dual core.
I generally advise people buying any brand or type of computer to go with the most memory and fastest unit that they can afford.
This time following my own advise I went with the 8 gig rMBP as that is all I can afford. However, I more than reasonably sure that this will suffice for me.
This time following my own advise I went with the 8 gig rMBP as that is all I can afford. However, I more than reasonably sure that this will suffice for me.
I just ordered mine, but in non-Retina configuration (suggestions for Apple to consider after the arrows):
• 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB ==> why not 16GB?
• 750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm ==> why not 1TB @ 7200rpm?
• SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
• Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display ==> why 1050 instead of 1080?
• Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide (English)
It's a replacement for an ancient 2003 17" PB and a 2008 15" MBPro, the former for video and the latter for audio/music. Now I can cram it all into one box.
UPDATE: Came before noon yesterday, 27 Jun and ... it's HEAVY. Certainly more of a desktop replacement kind of thing than a portable (lots more aluminum, I gather). Very swift build and delivery.
BTW, the 17" works fine save for the drive which I had to zero a few too many times. Gonna try my hand at upgrading the ol' beast with a nice SSD.
Not sure what I'll do with the 2008 model. The big trackpad button no longer clicks, and I had to get an external trackpad for it. Is there much of a resale value for old Macs?
• 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB ==> why not 16GB?
• 750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm ==> why not 1TB @ 7200rpm?
• SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
• Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display ==> why 1050 instead of 1080?
• Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide (English)
It's a replacement for an ancient 2003 17" PB and a 2008 15" MBPro, the former for video and the latter for audio/music. Now I can cram it all into one box.
UPDATE: Came before noon yesterday, 27 Jun and ... it's HEAVY. Certainly more of a desktop replacement kind of thing than a portable (lots more aluminum, I gather). Very swift build and delivery.
BTW, the 17" works fine save for the drive which I had to zero a few too many times. Gonna try my hand at upgrading the ol' beast with a nice SSD.
Not sure what I'll do with the 2008 model. The big trackpad button no longer clicks, and I had to get an external trackpad for it. Is there much of a resale value for old Macs?
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Probably not going to happen. Apple has already upgraded the 13-inch line this year. Some people are predicting a new one for October, but I guess it will be too early considering the timeline of past releases.
You are to optimistic - definitely not 2013 year.
Hah it is also unusable to watch websites like Facebook comfortably.
Do you mean amateurs?
You are right. EliteBooks are solid like a rock - certainly stronger than rMBP. The only one problem with EliteBooks - "Sandy Bridge" generation was noisy, but is seems that HP redesigned it.
I agree, but remember that Apple Thunderbolt is causing audio drop frames and slowing/freezing of USB interface (some internal devices like touchpad and camera use an USB in Macs). This is significant problem for real pro customers. I can not believe a situation that you loose syncro during video editing or you convert material skipping some important video frames or audio track.
I understand that Thunderbolt is for demanding customers, but we still have a few devices on the market and it is very very expensive.
I wonder if you'll claim the same in two years when Apple will release a statement like this:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088
As a customer it is hard for me to forget "bump gate" with faulty G84 chips.
HP stays still with AMD (previously ATi) and it was a right decision in my opinion. AMD have large experience with semiconductor manufacturing (NVidia was always fabless) and it seems that AMD has better offer for notebooks where TDP is more important than result in game benchmarks (except NVidia GeForce GT 640M LE):
28nm GPU chips:
NVidia GeForce GT 640M LE - TDP 20 Watts
NVidia GeForce GT 640M - TDP 32 Watts
NVidia GeForce GT 650M - TDP 45 Watts
NVidia GeForce GTX 660M - TDP 50 Watts
NVidia GeForce GTX 670M - TDP 75 Watts
NVidia GeForce GTX 675M - TDP 100 Watts
NVidia GeForce GTX 680M - TDP 100 Watts
AMD Radeon HD 7730M - TDP 25~28 Watts
AMD Radeon HD 7750M - TDP 28 Watts
AMD Radeon HD 7770M - TDP 32 Watts
AMD Radeon HD 7850M - TDP 40 Watts
AMD Radeon HD 7870M - TDP 40~45 Watts
AMD Radeon HD 7970M - TDP 75 Watts
You spend above 2000$ and you do not have an Ethernet adapter included in price that probably cost in production few bucks
Sorry, I love Macs either but I have not lost a presence of mind.Ethernet is still used and very useful in some cases.
Tell what is the total cost of all TB adapters?
Apple Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - 29$
Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter - 29$
Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter - 29$
and
Apple Thunderbolt Cable - 49$
You can always to argue that it is JUST 29$ for one adapter
I fully agree! SuperDrive has so poor quality that there is no need to keep it.
Completely agree. rMBP is quite powerful machine, but only with 16GB and 512GB SSD. Many customers claim that 8GB is not so much for OS X Lion (ML is almost the same)
You also forgot about warranty - 1 year warranty is like spitting in customer's face. If this equipment is so reliable and for PRO customers, why Apple does not offer it with a 3 year or 5 year warranty "door-to'door" and NBD?
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Well, I guess I'm not going to buy a new Mac, at least this year.
I just can't justify myself paying the price for the retina MacBook Pro. The cheaper model costs a whooping US$ 5,000 here in Brazil. And the most expensive model costs US$ 6,300 (and if I add the 2.7 GHz quad-core, 16 GB RAM and 768 GB SSD it will cost US$ 8,000). In addition, the crime rate here is high, and there is a non-negligible probability that my laptop is stolen within a year from the purchase date. So, I can't just buy a US$ 5,000 piece of hardware and run the risk of having it stolen...
And, still, I just can't buy an ordinary MacBook Pro. Completely out of question. I'm just not going to buy a laptop with a 1280x800 or 1440x900 display anymore. Or a hard drive. Or an optical disk drive that only adds weight...
I just can't justify myself paying the price for the retina MacBook Pro. The cheaper model costs a whooping US$ 5,000 here in Brazil. And the most expensive model costs US$ 6,300 (and if I add the 2.7 GHz quad-core, 16 GB RAM and 768 GB SSD it will cost US$ 8,000). In addition, the crime rate here is high, and there is a non-negligible probability that my laptop is stolen within a year from the purchase date. So, I can't just buy a US$ 5,000 piece of hardware and run the risk of having it stolen...
And, still, I just can't buy an ordinary MacBook Pro. Completely out of question. I'm just not going to buy a laptop with a 1280x800 or 1440x900 display anymore. Or a hard drive. Or an optical disk drive that only adds weight...
HP Elitebooks with HP DreamColor 2 are also very expensive, but you still have a better reliability and upgradeability, so you can use it the next 5 years without stress making RAM upgrade up to 32GB (like classic MBP). Windows 8 also has a slightly lower requirements than Windows 7 which is an excellent news and you can still use most of your favourite software and games that worked on 11-years Windows XP :]
I think it was a big mistake to add a new product without redesign of a whole MacBook line. Also MagSafe change from marketing/customer point of view made some mess. Steve's friend - the badger was against, but Cook and Mansfield gagged his mouth and locked in a farthest dungeon in Cuppertino campus.
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Thank you. Actually, I don't want a laptop which weighs more than 2kg and I also don't want a hard disk drive nor an optical disk drive. And I don't want the laptop to last 5 years. I like to buy another a new computer every two years at most because I want to keep up with the latest.
The retina MacBook Pro would be really the best choice for me but I won't spend US$ 5,000 on it. Intel is going to release Haswell in the next year and it will put the battery of this laptop to shame, so I'd better wait. In addition, it should not wise to walk around with a US$ 5,000 laptop in a country where crime rates are high and where most laptops are Celeron-equipped sold for about US$ 500...
It was a matter of opportunity. Apple had to release the retina MacBook Pro now in order to be the first one to do that. The technology is already here, and Windows 8 will support these screens when it is launched in October. So Apple had to release the redesigned MacBook Pro now, at least in one flavour. It couldn't update the whole line of MacBooks now because a über-expensive 13-inch MacBook Pro would scare buyers away.
I agree. Why does the Air's and Retina MacBook Pro get a new MagSafe connector and not the others?
Probably because it was becoming a limiting factor for their designs, and this was a good opportunity to switch to a more future looking design.
The old Magsafe connector would have possibly fit on the RMBP but it would have had very little metal left above and below it for support. They also made it shallower so that it pulls out more easily, which is important as notebooks get lighter.
I'm a bit annoyed that the new one reverts to the old 'T' layout. The 'L' is much better
It makes sense if they were going for a design that easily detaches from a light weight notebook when pulled. That's the whole point of Magsafe.
I prefer the "T". On my MBA, cord forward it blocks the USB port. Cord to the rear sticks out and usually has to make a 180 degree bend for my use. I am very happy the "T" has returned.
That's fair to assume. Just from a manufacturing point, it is a bit odd that Apple will have to produce/buy the fittings for both the "T" and "L" shape on the power brick and the laptop sides. Every little saving counts.
Oh wait Apple does roll in the dough
I have the same problem and it's quite annoying. Or when using ethernet, even worse.
I know this may not be the best place to put this info but as this is a very popular thread, I wanted to let people know the rMPR in the base configuration is in stock on bestbuy.com with 5% off also. Its only 5% but it is 110$ off. Just spreading the word. All macs for that matter have the discount. But the base rMPR is actually in stock and ready to ship.