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I like the car, looks great... but the performance numbers aren't that great.

The ONE thing I am happy to see is paddle shifters.... but not sure how the paddle shifters work since it says it is only for a 6 speed automatic transmission???

Nonetheless, I'll wait until the ZR1 is updated to the new C style and see how well it performs.

What performance numbers? All we have is estimated power( numbers aren't final), a vague statement of 0-60 in under 4 seconds, and saying it can pull more than 1G in cornering grip..... Not exactly anything specific to truly judge it's performance capabilities.
 
I work for GM, but choose to drive an Audi, its quite a bland car (A6 quattro) certainly not a car to impress!...so sorry you are wrong there.

Its easy to drive a Saturn...mundane and boring and nobody notices...but to drive a car that screams "look at me!" all the time is tiresome and here in the UK a Corvette just looks weird and people would laugh at you and probably feel sorry for you...which after a thousand times would make me want to switch to a...er...Saturn maybe?
 
Its easy to drive a Saturn...mundane and boring and nobody notices...but to drive a car that screams "look at me!" all the time is tiresome and here in the UK a Corvette just looks weird and people would laugh at you and probably feel sorry for you...which after a thousand times would make me want to switch to a...er...Saturn maybe?

So I assume people in the UK laugh at people who drive Aston's, Lambo's, Ferrari's, etc because they all scream, " Look at me!".

Either way I don't care. They can laugh all they want while I enjoy driving the Corvette( if I ever had the money to buy one). People who judge others by the car they drive are the ones that are insecure about themselves.
 
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The Corvette is a blast to drive. I don't like the attention. i just like driving it. This i assume will be available for order this summer. i want one.
 
Talking of BMW....loved the new 4 series coupe at Detroit

It's such a well proportioned design the new 4 Series, with a near perfect stance, small front overhang, with a larger rear one, giving it that real classic coupe proportion and rear-bias visual balance. Superb.

My only criticism is the moderately naff vent behind the front wheel. They either should've stuck with the classic M-vent, or actually integrated it more seamlessly within the wheel arch line.
 

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Of course, the real joy will be when Chevrolet moves the engine to its proper place behind the driver. I believe that's inevitable while at the same time I'm not holding my breath.

Why is having the engine behind the driver the "proper place"?



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4 gates in the shifter could be tricky. Plus, "R" should really be on it's on gate. I could see accidentally shifting from 7th to Reverse. Ouch.

Nope, not possible. All modern-day GM manuals have an electronic lock-out solenoid that makes it impossible to shift the transmission into reverse when the car's moving forward.



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A OHC 5L engine is going to be lighter, more fuel efficient, and smaller.

It wouldn't be either of those things. The intake plenum and valve covers would be massive and require Corvette to completely change its packaging.

The only downside to an engine like this is the cost.

... and the higher hood line.
... and the heavier front end.
... and the revised shock tower mounts to fit the engine.
... and the peaky torque delivery.
... and...



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Well remember cars like the Corvette are not meant to be profitable in and of themselves.

That isn't the case with Corvette specifically. If it's not profitable immediately, GM will kill it. They're reasonably brutal when it comes to vehicles holding their own and turning a buck. Part of the lag time in designing a new Corvette is, quite literally, putting together the business case for the bean counters to show them precisely when the car will turn a profit (ie: it'd better damn well be close to immediately) based on various levels of sales numbers.

jas
 
That isn't the case with Corvette specifically. If it's not profitable immediately, GM will kill it. They're reasonably brutal when it comes to vehicles holding their own and turning a buck. Part of the lag time in designing a new Corvette is, quite literally, putting together the business case for the bean counters to show them precisely when the car will turn a profit (ie: it'd better damn well be close to immediately) based on various levels of sales numbers.

jas

Not 100% accurate anymore( or so I hope). The Kappa twins( Sky and Solstice) lost $10K each sale and Volt is a money loser too. So they are willing to take a loss on a vehicle.

But, the Corvette is profitable with its long life cycles.
 
The ignoramuses is this thread

I just don't understand... how you can call the LS series engines (I'm gonna set aside the new LT1 for now) a joke when the average DOHC engines needs to be Force Induced to make the same or more power... that argument is moot

Don't try to argue with me that any of the great American V8's are a joke and somebody gonna get hurt!
 
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The engine is not behind the front axle. Its not mid engined at all.....

Apparently you missed this image....

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The engine is behind the front axle....But, as iGav said it is a front-mid engine.
 
Apparently you missed this image....

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The engine is behind the front axle....But, as iGav said it is a front-mid engine.

Part of the motor is still over the top of the axle...Technically is still isnt a mid engined car, im sorry but it just isn't. You wont get the same perfect 50/50 weight distribution as a true mid engined car.
 
My car not only doesn't have a reverse lockout, it has a synchronized reverse gear! Take that! :)

Part of the motor is still over the top of the axle...Technically is still isnt a mid engined car, im sorry but it just isn't. You wont get the same perfect 50/50 weight distribution as a true mid engined car.
Let's not get crazy. The Vette is property considered front mid-engined IMO.
 
You wont get the same perfect 50/50 weight distribution as a true mid engined car.

Are you sure about that? It turns out the C7 is 50/50. The new Viper is a hair better, actually with a 49.6/50.4 F/R distribution. The engine doesn't need to be behind the driver for perfect weight distribution.

jas
 
Are you sure about that? It turns out the C7 is 50/50. The new Viper is a hair better, actually with a 49.6/50.4 F/R distribution. The engine doesn't need to be behind the driver for perfect weight distribution.

jas

Fair enough, i would not take what they say as gospel though.
 
Fair enough, i would not take what they say as gospel though.

Because it's GM or because any manufacture would try to fudge numbers?

Preliminary numbers have it at 50/50. It may change when the numbers are finalized though. The current C6 is 51/49 so it isn't impossible for the C7 to be 50/50.
 
Because it's GM or because any manufacture would try to fudge numbers?

Preliminary numbers have it at 50/50. It may change when the numbers are finalized though. The current C6 is 51/49 so it isn't impossible for the C7 to be 50/50.

Any manufacture can fudge numbers slightly. Im not anti GM btw, i own a Holden Commodore and had a 10 sec Holden LX Torana. I just think GM need to get with the times and make a OHC engine with decent power/L. 6.2L to make just 450bhp is pathetic. A mildly modified Ford XR6T 6 cylinder can put out that power from just 4L and is alot more fuel efficient.
 
Any manufacture can fudge numbers slightly. Im not anti GM btw, i own a Holden Commodore and had a 10 sec Holden LX Torana. I just think GM need to get with the times and make a OHC engine with decent power/L. 6.2L to make just 450bhp is pathetic. A mildly modified Ford XR6T 6 cylinder can put out that power from just 4L and is alot more fuel efficient.

I guess it's not getting through - power vs displacement does not matter in and of itself. It only matters if it results in better performance, better packaging, or better efficiency. Will that modified XR6T 6 cylinder put out that much power with any less fuel? Does it take up any less space? Does it weigh less? Maybe it does, but until I hear some concrete numbers that actually matter for more than just bragging rights, I'm not going to be impressed.
 
Any manufacture can fudge numbers slightly. Im not anti GM btw, i own a Holden Commodore and had a 10 sec Holden LX Torana. I just think GM need to get with the times and make a OHC engine with decent power/L. 6.2L to make just 450bhp is pathetic. A mildly modified Ford XR6T 6 cylinder can put out that power from just 4L and is alot more fuel efficient.

A mildly modified Small Block will result in a drastic increase in power. Small Block's are famous to be mod friendly.

I don't know why you're so fixated on HP/liter. It's an irrelevant statistic mostly. Corvette's are fuel efficient already despite having a 6.2 liter V8, OHV makes packaging easier( smaller than BMW's 4.0 V8....), lighter( 15 lb. lighter than Ford's 5.0 Coyote V8), etc. Like I said, both engine designs have their pro's and cons. But, saying an engine is pathetic simply because it has a low HP/liter is the pathetic part in this. Because you can scream HP/liter all you want, it doesn't make the competition a better sports car than the Corvette necessarily.

BTW, OHC is an older design than OHV. So GM is with the times with the most modern ICE tech. ;)
 
I guess it's not getting through - power vs displacement does not matter in and of itself. It only matters if it results in better performance, better packaging, or better efficiency. Will that modified XR6T 6 cylinder put out that much power with any less fuel? Does it take up any less space? Does it weigh less? Maybe it does, but until I hear some concrete numbers that actually matter for more than just bragging rights, I'm not going to be impressed.

Ok another example is the new Ford supercharged 5L motor that is used in the Mustang over there in the states aswell as the FPV Ford over here in Aus. It is the same weight, more powerful then the Chevy motor with much better fuel economy. Like i said that 6.2L LS motor is a dinosaur.
 
There are dozens of RX-7, 5 series, 3 series running around with LS engines where I live. I wonder why lol. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. OHV pushrods are better than OHC engines.
 
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