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2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray unveiled
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The general consensus of the internet disagree, along with more than a few car magazines to include of prestigious German rags.
Yes R8's are easier to drive for novices due to it being easier to drive at the limit due to the R8 being AWD. But being objective with drivers that can get everything out of the cars potential, the ZR1 is faster. Yes even around corners, the ZR1 is faster......
The computer analogy doesn't work since a Mac or PC is fast for everyone. There is no skill needed to extract the most out of it.
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Please define "professional driver" for me, if you would. The word "professional" usually means: one who is paid to do X. Therefore, a professional driver is one who paid to drive. That could mean a race driver or a magazine editor, right?
Not only a ZR1, but a Z06, and a much lesser Grand Sport Corvette, per Car and Driver's Lightning Lap results. Note that for these tests, Car and Driver uses their editors, and not race car drivers. To paraphrase a friend of mine: Bringing an R8 to a track against a ZR1 isn't like bringing a knife to a gunfight, it's like bringing a knife to a nuclear war.
What in hell does, "what amounts to the same speeds" mean?
That you prefer an R8 over a Corvette isn't a bad thing, mind you. If we all preferred the same car, the world would be a damned boring place. But, when you're asked why you prefer an R8 over a Corvette, be careful in your answer...
jas
Exactly. None of us care that you prefer the R8 over the Corvette. But, if you try to say a Corvette can't handle, is a muscle car, can only do straight lines, use some BS like the engine is OHV, it uses a leaf spring in the rear, etc to diss the 'Vette is when we will jump. It's one thing to prefer a car over another. It's another to use BS to diss a car.
Sorry, I was talking about the Audi R8 V10. I always forget stupid Audi doesn't really differentiate them like Chevrolet does with the Corvette.
Don't get my wrong, i want a Corvette because I feel like I could some day reasonably afford one and I love that they're American and any mechanic or Chevy dealer can fix them. My avatar is Audi because I drive an A4 right now, and I absolutely love it (except that everything costs $700+ to fix).
As quagmire correctly points out: that time posted by Car and Driver is with the V10 version. The R8 in any form is, unfortunately for Audi, an anemic and slow vehicle around a race track. It handles poorly when compared to a much lesser-priced Corvette.
That doesn't make it a bad car in any way. It's just not something that can be compared against a Corvette when words like "handling" are used.
They are phenomenal cars in almost every single way. I learned to drive on a race track in a '96 base-suspension Corvette and have graduated over the years to my current ZR1. I've never regretted owning one and the one I have now turns me into a drooling, giggling idiot every time I drive it.
jas
Not so. This is your Mac Pro - still amazingly great, but not new!
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R8s are definitely nice, but not really for me. I would prefer the Gallardo(which is why I'm looking into 1) vs the R8 which is a similar platform......the R8 is too heavy for what I would want and I don't like the look of it as much. I have a few friends who have the V10 models and while they look great and sound great, just not what I would want.
Did I say they cared? The person who I replied to said the R8 was faster. He said something inaccurate.
Guy pulled up beside me today in his R8 and rev'd the engine. I absolutely hate that! 
Interestingly enough I've never had a Corvette driver do that.
Interestingly enough I've never had a Corvette driver do that.
For those that are mourning the loss of the round taillights and don't mind having their transmission/differential overheat, there is an aftermarket kit available to buy. I personally hate it. The round design ruins the Stingrays looks.......
Who cares? This car will be able to take down European cars that costs twice as much. You can badger on about HP/Liter while you stare at Vette Taillights.
That is faster than European cars for 2-3 times the price.
Interesting yes, slow unreliable, and stupid. Yes.
It probably wouldn't beat my big 4 seater daily driver, or a go kart. Who cares about carbon footprint? Nobody.
Who cares about MPG in a sports car? Nobody, simple concept that when you run out of fuel, you pull into a gas station and buy more of it.
The S40 is a dutch built ****box, my daily driver would leave it in the dust, and it has a " truck engine v8 " and it gets 28-30mpg on the highway.
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My new daily driver is the only car I own that even has catalytic converters , my fun cars do not. I love the smell of unburned gasoline.
People may care, but it is still largely a useless statistic. You really not going to buy a car because it has a low HP/liter? You love everything else about the car. The handling, power, interior, etc, but since it has a low HP/L, you wouldn't buy it? Or you knock a car as saying it sucks because it has a low HP/L?
So far I haven't heard any reasons to care about HP/liter outside the reasons I listed( limit/tax on displacement, etc). In the US, it's mostly a, " Wow" gimmick. It's impressive when a small engine makes big power, but it' still largely useless. It won't make me choose the Mustang GT over the Camaro SS for instance. It won't make me choose a Porsche over the Corvette. If they are better vehicles for me, I will choose them. Not because their engines make more power per liter. And at the same time, I won't knock a car for needing a bigger engine to make the same power even though the vehicle is not to my tastes. Give credit where credit is due. Don't use BS to knock it down. And HP/liter is BS to knock the Corvette down.
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I'll give credit when it's due, but not to Chevrolet for sticking with huge displacement pushrod engines. That's just pure laziness.
And your statement is pure ignorance; it's clear you don't understand how much work went into making that pushrod engine as efficient as it is, nor the packaging constraints a Corvette has.
jas
There is nothing wrong with the OHV architecture. I get it that you like higher revving engines which the OHC architecture gives you. That's fine. That is your taste. But using HP/liter is completely stupid, especially to bash a car like the Corvette( or even Viper). Anyone who uses HP/liter to knock a car loses credibility instantly.
I'm not reading through the almost 9 full pages already posted but I wish they kept the circle taillights. The new taillights look like the Camaro.