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2015-2016 NFL Season Thread

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I respect Brady and think all this "probable" stuff is silly. That being said, the texts messages that have been released don't paint a good picture of things and do make it look like he was in some way knowledgeable about what was going on. The whole thing is stupid. Just play the game and play it by the rules.
 
bigjnyc said:
Exactly. Circumstantial evidence is enough to lead any smart person to an obvious conclusion.

they could have had a picture of Brady with a needle in one hand a football in another and Patriot fans would still be crying foul and attacking the NFL. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, because only NE fans defend their team. It's not like Ravens fans said, "She tried to hit Ray Rice first so he had every right to hit her" or Steelers fans said, "The women who accused Roethlisberger of rape settled out of court, so he never did anything"...etc. Nah, it's just us NE fans who are homers.:rolleyes:

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Peace said:
Only agreed to do their jobs if they got special goodies ?

Doesn't make much sense if ya ask me.
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Why? They probably get paid very little and it sounds like Brady was pretty nasty to them after the Jets game where the balls were at 16 psi. A lot of people would want some kind of perks in that situation. Not saying I agree with it, just that I could see people doing it.
 
Is Olbermann a blow hard, yes, but he is also most of the time likely right.
 
In other news... The Jaguars are cursed.

Dante Fowler is out for the season with a torn ACL.
The third overall pick in this year’s NFL draft will miss his entire rookie season with an injury suffered at his first day of practice.

Jaguars pass rusher Dante Fowler is out for the season with a torn ACL, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports.

Fowler, a talented edge rusher from Florida, was expected to make an instant impact on Jacksonville’s defense. Instead, at the first practice of today’s rookie minicamp he went down awkwardly, immediately grabbed his knee, and had to be helped off the field. It looked bad, and now it’s been confirmed that it was every bit as bad as it looked.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/dante-fowler-out-for-season-with-torn-acl/
 
Oh man I feel super bad for the Jags, they really can't catch a break. i wonder if they will pick anyone up to fill the hole left by Dante or just struggle along and wait for him to recover
 
63dot said:
... Yes, we caught Bonds and there's no doubt. We caught Lance Armstrong, and McGwire, Cabrera, and Canseco, and those were big stories that caught everybody's imagination and outrage, but trying to "fit" Brady into the same mold without evidence is a total shame on the NFL. If anybody should be fined or stripped of position/title, it should be the head of the NFL.
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In my opinion, the real culprit is the league itself, which failed to maintaining custody and oversight of the balls. I'd actually prefer if football was more like baseball (which I'd always assumed it was) and have game balls prepped by the officials and not tampered with by the team or the QB's at all.

If we see pass completions fall by 10%, then so be it. It would be a more honest and fair account of ability than what we have today.
 
citizenzen said:
In my opinion, the real culprit is the league itself, which failed to maintaining custody and oversight of the balls. I'd actually prefer if football was more like baseball (which I'd always assumed it was) and have game balls prepped by the officials and not tampered with by the team or the QB's at all.

If we see pass completions fall by 10%, then so be it. It would be a more honest and fair account of ability than what we have today.
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Ironically, it was Tom Brady and other QB's who lobbied the league to allow the teams to provide the balls for offense. Before the rule change, I believe it was the Home team who provided all the footballs.
 
citizenzen said:
In my opinion, the real culprit is the league itself, which failed to maintaining custody and oversight of the balls. I'd actually prefer if football was more like baseball (which I'd always assumed it was) and have game balls prepped by the officials and not tampered with by the team or the QB's at all.

If we see pass completions fall by 10%, then so be it. It would be a more honest and fair account of ability than what we have today.
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I agree totally. It would simplify things and make it an even playing field.

I am well known in my criticism of Brady-bots here, but what seems to be a singling out of Brady is just plain wrong. The NFL, either by not making the balls the NFL's responsibility, or kind-of blaming Brady simply looks bad for the NFL's organization.

I certainly have had my issues with the NFL but this deflategate and deflection to blame Brady is simply shameful and even some of the most die hard anti-Pats fans are falling on the side of Brady and against the NFL.
 
MacNut said:
Is Olbermann a blow hard, yes, but he is also most of the time likely right.
YouTube: video
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**** Keith Olbermann. A loud mouth, blowhard, hypocrite who wants everyone to get fired over controversial stuff except him.
 
pachyderm said:
lol. yeah. i still like him. usually i agree with him.



i may be an ass too...
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I love that little spot. He's not being serious guys. It's called sarcasm.

I love that bit about A-Rod "matching" dollar for dollar 32 seconds into the video.:p

...and two minute spot on Giambi..."He's twice the man he used to be, literally!"
 
63dot said:
I love that little spot. He's not being serious guys. It's called sarcasm.

I love that bit about A-Rod "matching" dollar for dollar 32 seconds into the video.:p

...and two minute spot on Giambi..."He's twice the man he used to be, literally!"
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also, i am sorry amari cooper.
 
citizenzen said:
In my opinion, the real culprit is the league itself, which failed to maintaining custody and oversight of the balls. I'd actually prefer if football was more like baseball (which I'd always assumed it was) and have game balls prepped by the officials and not tampered with by the team or the QB's at all.
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Agreed. One of the sports radio guys here in Boston had a good suggestion. Teams get the balls ahead of time and prep the outside however their QB wants. Then they return them to the league, which oversees the inflation, sets them all at one standard air pressure, and has control over them until the game starts.

Of course, then Goodell might have to deal with real problems, like domestic violence and concussions, instead of air in balls, texting, and pumped in crowd noise.
 
I'd say Brady has a good shot at getting the suspension reduced or removed altogether due to how weak of a job the report does at proving he had involvement in deflating the balls. It basically said "we don't know for sure that Brady was involved, but we also can't prove that he wasn't involved so he had to have known".
 
Shocked. Didn't think the NFL would do anything nearly this severe.
 
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CEmajr said:
I'd say Brady has a good shot at getting the suspension reduced or removed altogether due to how weak of a job the report does at proving he had involvement in deflating the balls. It basically said "we don't know for sure that Brady was involved, but we also can't prove that he wasn't involved so he had to have known".
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It seems like lack of cooperation and prior history of cheating played a huge factor here.


rdowns said:
Shocked. Didn't think the NFL would do anything nearly this severs.
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I'm shocked also. Especially the picks. Losing a 1st and a 4th!
 
Moyank24 said:
I'm shocked also. Especially the picks. Losing a 1st and a 4th!
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I was listening to ESPN radio this morning (Mike & Mike) and they recounted at least two incidences where balls were manipulated and the teams were only fined $25,000. I truly don't understand (and I'm no Patriots fan) why this incident rises to the level of punishment just meted out.

This is a moment for the league to tighten down its practices and oversight. What a shame it would be to believe that this severe punishment somehow absolves the league of taking the steps they should have taken years ago.
 
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Moyank24 said:
It seems like lack of cooperation and prior history of cheating played a huge factor here.




I'm shocked also. Especially the picks. Losing a 1st and a 4th!
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citizenzen said:
I was listening to ESPN radio this morning (Mike & Mike) and they recounted at least two incidences where balls were manipulated and the teams were only fined $25,000. I truly don't understand (and I'm no Patriots fan) why this incident rises to the level of punishment just meted out.

This is a moment for the league to tighten down its practices and oversight. What a shame it would be to believe that this severe punishment somehow absolves the league of taking the steps they should have taken years ago.
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That's why. Had the Patriots not had a history it would not have been so harsh and Brady's snobbish, "I'm just a regular guy" attitude didn't help either.
 
rdowns said:
Shocked. Didn't think the NFL would do anything nearly this severe.
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It isn't harsh enough. It calls under scrutiny their Super Bowl win, as there was the chance that they wouldn't have even made it that far.

As harsh as it sounds, they should vacate their Super Bowl win, because their playoffs run was tainted.

BL.
 
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