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2015 Macbook Pro's Intel Iris 6100 is so choppy in Yosemite

Choppy ?

How the hell can u see the difference, unless it must be really noticeable..

I have not noticed anything like this. Running 10.10.3 clean install, and using all sorts of third party apps. :cool:

Why is this a constant issue with Apple products and (recalls, programs, and "it's affecting a small number of customers" type crap"

Apple is obviously not doing something good here. I'm just wondering where MS has to give access to all other third parties, support for different companies, compatibilities and such.. and i would bet while they don't have a high number of recalls.. Apple seems to do every single time....

Why ? I would like to know where the real situation lies, and not just the "well hardware always has issues" because that is not the cause is the same does not happen with other..
 
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Nothing choppy on mine and restored using a Time Machine backup.

Processes running -
  • QuarkXpress,
  • Chrome - 2 users and about 15 tabs
  • iTunes
  • Affinity Photo
  • VM - Parallels - 6GB RAM Assigned - Windows 7 running Revit 2015

Must admit I max out the CPU before I do the RAM, could have gotten away with 8GB (dropping down the VM to 4GB) and 256GB storage with the rest of my files on an external.
 
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cbautis2 said:
Windoze indexing does the same thing far even worse than OS X.

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I tried this new rMBP at a brick and mortar store and opening all of the preinstalled apps + switching them using Mission Control, spaces, launch pad, show desktop gestures does induce the lag on mission control. On 15" Haswell rMBP with Iris Pro 5200, the lag is non existent.
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1. Indexing takes couple min on new install.
2. Windows is smart enough to pause indexing when you are using the computer.

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Tech198 said:
Choppy ?

How the hell can u see the difference, unless it must be really noticeable..

I have not noticed anything like this. Running 10.10.3 clean install, and using all sorts of third party apps. :cool:

Why is this a constant issue with Apple products and (recalls, programs, and "it's affecting a small number of customers" type crap"

Apple is obviously not doing something good here. I'm just wondering where MS has to give access to all other third parties, support for different companies, compatibilities and such.. and i would bet while they don't have a high number of recalls.. Apple seems to do every single time....

Why ? I would like to know where the real situation lies, and not just the "well hardware always has issues" because that is not the cause is the same does not happen with other..
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People tend to exaggerate...a lot. I have this laptop and it is indeed there. It is annoying but doesn't really affect productivity. It just makes the eye candy a bit less sweet. Apple should not add features that don't work well but that's Apple's MO, like it or not.
 
cybercho said:
A hard line approach...that I'm sure would send a message to Apple, but the blame should really lie on Intel who is responsible for creating and improving the graphics driver. This is just my humble opinion
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Ok. So returning it will send a message to Apple, to tell Intel to get their act together.
 
diesel said:
Be sceptical all you want but the truth is that there are plenty of people that don't have the problem that you are describing. Why not exchange your machine for a new one.
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Because you don't get it.this happens on retina screens that are scaled. Not everyone is configured for scaled. Also, some people may not notice the lag or care as much. My MBP has lag had but if I ask my wife, she doesn't thinks it's bad. I think all 13 inch MBP have the issue
 
tech324 said:
Because you don't get it.this happens on retina screens that are scaled. Not everyone is configured for scaled. Also, some people may not notice the lag or care as much. My MBP has lag had but if I ask my wife, she doesn't thinks it's bad. I think all 13 inch MBP have the issue
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I'm running mine scaled and I experience NO lag. As others have mentioned this does not happen to everyone so DONT make broad generalizations that assert or implies that it does.
 
tech324 said:
Wrong...... The OS is made by Apple, not Intel. Intel should definitely make a decent driver, but the best driver in the world will not fix an OS that does not take advantage of it properly
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You did not read my post carefully. I stated that the graphics chip and software was created by Intel. Of course the OS is made by Apple. :p

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Michael Goff said:
Except that the GPU works great on everything that isn't Yosemite's UI.
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How does the Intel Iris 6100 GPU work great on everything that doesn't have Yosemite? It's only available on the 2015 macbook pro 13" (for now) which comes with Yosemite installed. If you don't believe me, check here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204349

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davehutch said:
Why do the rMBPs in the Apple Store not behave this way?
I specifically tested both the 13" and 15" at the weekend and also changed their scaling away from default to check.
Smooth as anything
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They do behave this way as many people in this thread have noticed. Please read the entire thread before posting.
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darngooddesign said:
Ok. So returning it will send a message to Apple, to tell Intel to get their act together.
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Read the entire thread to understand why I wrote this response. You're taking me out of context.
 
Yixian said:
Apple have got to start making allowances for better graphics hardware, especially in retina machines. We've been shortchanged on the Pro moniker and price for 5+ years now, and it's getting worse rather than better. It used to be that gaming/3D performance was substandard, now it's impacting navigating the OS?! Completely unacceptable.

If you need to make your laptop a few mm thicker to put a worthy GPU inside then so be it. For people who value thinness over performance there are two other lines of MacBook.
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This is a software issue, man. Apple has had UI-level graphical performance issues in every release since Leopard/that I've used.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
This is a software issue, man. Apple has had UI-level graphical performance issues in every release since Leopard/that I've used.
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But because of "It just works" I don't care if this is bad OS optimization, bad driver implementation, underpowered hardware or God knows what.

It's a really bad end-user experience that, as you just stated, has been going on for years. And that's disappointing, because I really want Apple to get back on track software-wise.
 
diesel said:
I'm running mine scaled and I experience NO lag. As others have mentioned this does not happen to everyone so DONT make broad generalizations that assert or implies that it does.
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I have been to multple stores -> Frys, Best Buys, Apple stores. All 13 inch MBPs show it. I have seen multiple posts of 10.10.4 possible fixing this issue. People have posted videos of the UI lag. If you can't see it, more power to you man.
 
Just got my new Macbook Pro Retina 13 2015 2,9/16/512 yesterday.

Everything is fine unless I connect my Cinema Display (via Thunderbolt / Mini Display Port). It gets worse when I open a Remote Desktop to my Mac Mini. So it's definitely a Software Isue. Maybe Apple has just made bad drivers for the new 6100 Iris Pro?
 
tech324 said:
I believe this lag only affects Retina. It seems the driver/hardware appears to have an issue driving the resolution from the retina. If you do not have retina, you will probably not have the issue (most users with MBAs don't have the issue either).
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Understood. Just trying to gauge just how much more capable the new MBPs are compared to mine
 
mayuka said:
Just got my new Macbook Pro Retina 13 2015 2,9/16/512 yesterday.

Everything is fine unless I connect my Cinema Display (via Thunderbolt / Mini Display Port). It gets worse when I open a Remote Desktop to my Mac Mini. So it's definitely a Software Isue. Maybe Apple has just made bad drivers for the new 6100 Iris Pro?
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You don't have an Iris Pro in that MacBook. I think it's the normal 6100 Iris.
 
I have plugged my 13"MBP 2015 to a 4K monitor and it is choppy as hell. Pretty much unusable.

Turn off transparency....

Smooth like butter!

Not really worth it for eye candy!
 
Eye Doc said:
I have plugged my 13"MBP 2015 to a 4K monitor and it is choppy as hell. Pretty much unusable.

Turn off transparency....

Smooth like butter!

Not really worth it for eye candy!
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Is that with 10.10.4 beta or not ? I use my 13 2015 with a 4k monitor and it's fine until I use photoshop, which then has crazy lag with a bank PSD open. Not turned transparency off yet though.
 
No, just 10.10.3.

I am not doing anything too taxing though to be honest. Office, Mail, web browsing.
 
cybercho said:
You did not read my post carefully. I stated that the graphics chip and software was created by Intel. Of course the OS is made by Apple. :p

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How does the Intel Iris 6100 GPU work great on everything that doesn't have Yosemite? It's only available on the 2015 macbook pro 13" (for now) which comes with Yosemite installed. If you don't believe me, check here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204349

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They do behave this way as many people in this thread have noticed. Please read the entire thread before posting.
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Read the entire thread to understand why I wrote this response. You're taking me out of context.
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I said it worked great on everything that wasn't the UI. As in ... if you open games it reacts better than drawing the UI. It isn't a problem with the iGPU, but the coding of the Retina ... or at least it might be. I've noticed that it lags a lot less, mostly not at all, if I'm not using Safari.

Anyone else noticed that?
 
The problem is related more to system than hardware. I have seen laggy UI on high end 15" which are connected to ext displays. Yosemite is really a windows vista equivalent in messing up perfectly smooth system.
 
I noticed that even the mouse becomes choppy when my Cinema Display is connected via Thunderbolt. "Reduce transparency" doesn't help much... Everything is fine though when I enable Display mirroring.
 
Eye Doc said:
I have plugged my 13"MBP 2015 to a 4K monitor and it is choppy as hell. Pretty much unusable.

Turn off transparency....

Smooth like butter!

Not really worth it for eye candy!
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I have transparency turned off as well and my 13" MBP 2015 is now smooth as butter. I don't think Apple will address this until the next version of OS X to be honest with you.
 
Turning on "Reduce Transparency" has helped my machine a little bit, turning on "High Contrast" mode, however, has helped tremendously.
Yosemite is half-baked, and I don't think Apple will address this problem in Yosemite.
 
Just to chip in, I've had the 2015 13" rMBP for 2 weeks now and have not observed any UI lag at all.
 
Of interest, I'm using a vanilla 15" fully-loaded rMBP and I'm forcing the 750m GPU to stay one and performance is similarly choppy despite a lack of CPU, Network, or SSD load. Clearly a coding issue with Yosemite.
 
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