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It will be interesting to see all of the free agent moves this offseason.
I was reading this morning how much the Raven's are in cap hell, not just because of Flacco but also for Lardarius Webb Eugene Monroe and Dennis Pitta. Story here

If I were any of them, I'd not agree to a pay cut. They agreed in good faith to the contact and now the organization wants to give them less money. I guess if they cut all three, they'll have so much dead money that its not worth it. I can see Flacco agreeing to work out a deal to restructure his contract but they others? I'd say take the money and run.
 
Manning still hasn't made any decisions on retiring yet, the Broncos have to move him off the payroll by March 8th otherwise they'll be on the hook for 19 Million dollars. I suspect Manning may want one more year and the yet the Broncos are done with him, but really don't want the possible fan blowback if they cut him outright.
 
ahh... ok. my bad. he will soon make it official.
I do wonder if he's wrestling with this and not playing games. Given the scandalous reports hitting the airwaves (H2H, that whole assualt thing while in college), It would be better to just settle down out of the limelight.
 
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I'm sure he's wrestling with it. It would be pretty hard to leave the game. Brett Favre is the perfect example.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is getting several offers from other teams.
 
Speaking of Denver... I think Denver needs to keep both Miller and Osweiler.

I remember reading (and will probably have to find the article again) that Elway wants to keep the defense great, and build up the offense... which I agree with.

But if we can't make a deal with Miller, franchise tag him then. But as for Osweiler, I think he has the potential to be the biggest threat in the NFL.
Not saying he is, but has the potential. He got a lot of coaching from Manning, who is the GOAT. He knows the hurry-up offense. He just needs to better learn how to read a defense.

But I think now Elway and Kubiak (obviously Kubiak) are going to coach him on this. Two really great QBs (when they played) and one of those who's in the top 5.
Keep Osweiler and make him a franchise QB. Because if they don't, I have a feeling Denver is going to do like they did after Elway retired, switch QBs every couple years. (Even though we had a great one with Plummer).

I would like to see Miller stay also though, he's my favorite player. Damn is he fun to watch.
 
Damn. Sam Bradford has, hands down, the best agent. Since being drafted he's earned 65 million dollars. Today, he has an extension with the Eagles for potentially another 36 million (26 million guaranteed). 100 million for his limited production is just insane!
 
Tom Brady signed a 2 year contract extension, so they haters can rejoice that their hobby will continue through 2019.

;)
 
Tom Brady signed a 2 year contract extension, so they haters can rejoice that their hobby will continue through 2019.

;)

I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion. Brady has shown no signs of slowing down but this extension has more to do with the Patriots cap situation - only have $7 million, than Brady's ability to keep playing. Manning was playing lights out one year and then the next injuries hit and he was never the same again.
 
Damn. Sam Bradford has, hands down, the best agent. Since being drafted he's earned 65 million dollars. Today, he has an extension with the Eagles for potentially another 36 million (26 million guaranteed). 100 million for his limited production is just insane!
The Pigeons are perpetually stupid.
 
Damn. Sam Bradford has, hands down, the best agent. Since being drafted he's earned 65 million dollars. Today, he has an extension with the Eagles for potentially another 36 million (26 million guaranteed). 100 million for his limited production is just insane!
Agreed, he didn't play like a 36 Million dollar contract (I guess you can argue no QB does), I think they over paid a QB that has a history of being fragile.

In other news Washington tagged Cousins. That seemed to be the best move, pay him a somewhat high amount but see if can duplicate the success of last year.
 
I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion. Brady has shown no signs of slowing down but this extension has more to do with the Patriots cap situation - only have $7 million, than Brady's ability to keep playing. Manning was playing lights out one year and then the next injuries hit and he was never the same again.

True, but Manning had multiple major neck/spinal surgeries and was showing signs of losing arm strength for the past couple of years. Meanwhile Brady just had one of the best years of his career and looked like he was in the best shape of his career. If Brady can avoid major injuries, I can definitely see him playing out this contract.
 
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Damn. Sam Bradford has, hands down, the best agent. Since being drafted he's earned 65 million dollars. Today, he has an extension with the Eagles for potentially another 36 million (26 million guaranteed). 100 million for his limited production is just insane!

Agreed. The Eagles are making a terrible move in doing this.
 
True, but Manning had multiple major neck/spinal surgeries and was showing signs of losing arm strength for the past couple of years. Meanwhile Brady just had one of the best years of his career and looked like he was in the best shape of his career. If Brady can avoid major injuries, I can definitely see him playing out this contract.

I hope he can as well. If and when Manning decides to retire, Brady is, in the highest possible meaning, the only truly elite QB left. After Brady decides to hang it up, we're left with very great QB's, but not on the same level as Manning and Brady.
 
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After Brady decides to hang it up, we're left with very great QB's, but not on the same level as Manning and Brady.
I don'r know, We have Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson. All super bowl champs, all with great stats that show them leading their teams to wins. Tony Romo could be counted amongst them as well, though he's never won a super bowl, but clearly he is the Cowboy's franchise - his absence last year cemented the fact that they win with him and lose without him.
 
I don'r know, We have Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson. All super bowl champs, all with great stats that show them leading their teams to wins. Tony Romo could be counted amongst them as well, though he's never won a super bowl, but clearly he is the Cowboy's franchise - his absence last year cemented the fact that they win with him and lose without him.

Those QB's are great, some more than others (specifically Aaron Rodgers), but none are really on the level Brady/Manning are/were. Those QB's you listed have had great success (Super Bowl wins) but I just don't see any of them being mentioned in the same sentence as Brady or Manning. Maybe Rodgers but even that's not certain. In today's NFL, it's Manning/Brady and then the rest. Again, it's not to disrespect those QB's but from a historic standpoint, Manning and Brady will be in those conversations, while the other QB's will just be mentioned as great QB's.
 
I mentioned those folks because they didn't just win SBs, but their stats and impact on the team is profound. In all honesty few people will measure up to Brady and Peyton. Brady - given his extended and long term success. I mean the dude went to 6 super bowls and won 4 of them. Manning was a beast in his heyday and while up until this February, only had a single SB win, but his impact on the game is profound.

Those people I think can be categorized above elite and put on a tier that perhaps no others belong.

I do think Rodgers, Big Ben, are elite and in time Wilson will be amongst them. In some ways I think he qualifies as such, being in 2 SBs, and performing the way he did last year. He was the major reason for the Seahawks success after an abysmal start.
 
Brady/Manning are in that "elite" category because of sports reporting and that is all.

I would disagree with this statement. If that is case, then half of the quarterbacks in the league who are reported on week in and week out since they came into the league would be considered elite.

I like @maflynn 's response on why. These two have been at such a high level for so long. Not to mention what they bring to the team and the stats they are putting up.
 
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I would disagree with this statement. If that is case, then half of the quarterbacks in the league who are reported on week in and week out since they came into the league would be considered elite.

I like @maflynn 's response on why. These two have been at such a high level for so long. Not to mention what they bring to the team and the stats they are putting up.

Agreed with @rhett7660 as well as @maflynn. You cannot compare any other QB in the league to Manning or Brady. If you want to discuss stats and abilities, maybe you can put Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees in that conversation but Manning and Brady are just at another level compared to everyone else in the league.
 
Sounds like the judges didn't like the look of Brady's uggs.

Finally some smart judges who see through the BS and are asking the right questions


Observers in the courtroom noted that NFLPA lawyer Jeffrey Kessler faced stiff inquiries during his turn in front of the panel, including queries from Judge Barrington Parker about Brady’s destruction of his cell phone.

“Why couldn’t the commissioner suspend Brady for that conduct alone?” Judge Barrington Parker said, via the Providence Journal. “You have one of the most celebrated players performing in that fashion? Anybody within 100 yards of this proceeding knew that would raise the stakes.”

Parker went on to say that Brady’s explanation that he routinely destroys his phone “made no sense whatsoever.”
 
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