Both.Correct.
But, what does Apple want in the end?
- More profit or more marketshare?
- Long term vs. short term?
Both.Correct.
But, what does Apple want in the end?
- More profit or more marketshare?
- Long term vs. short term?
You're living in cloud cuckoo land..
Of course it's a bloody price issue, not every country subsidises the iPhone with huge monthly contract prices of 35-55 quid 'cause the people in these countries simply can't pay it, and don't! Most are using prepay, and dual sim and using free wifi (go to cambodia or vietnam, everywhere has open wifi..)
Even here in Switzerland I have to pay nearly 300 quid AND pay 50 quid a month subscription to get a 16Gb 6S... Crazy!!
It's more a deep pink, a "paradise pink", but if you see blood, then okay...Written in blood so it must be true!
Point #1 is absolutely why Android has the dominant market share that it does. I'd like to see Android's numbers in the high-end market.
Point #2 is absolutely right, and is actually the reason why I'm considering jumping ship from iOS for my next phone. I'd be curious to know what the smartphone market will look like in, say, 5-10 years. Will Android ever start having a negligible impact on the high-end market? TBD.
It's all good. Thing is all of these reports should be taken with a grain of salt. But forum life dictates that a 10 is a 10 is a 10 no matter where the number came from or who made it up. I'm pretty sure both companies consider the ideal ratio to be 1:1 shipped/sold.Thanks and I understand, sorry if I made that confusing by maybe implying I was saying mobile was apples to oranges like consoles but I understand its apples to apples here. I guess I'm still curious how the two companies look at what is the ideal shipped to sold ratio. The numbers or pretty wide but is Samsung cool with 5x or 10x more quantity on sitting on shelves then say Apple?
I keep reading about "profitability". It's good for Apple but what does profitability mean for you? Is Apple adding new features/hardware? The answer is no. Apple fanboys are the reason why these crappy iPhones are selling like hot cakes. There is no innovation. The first version of iPhone is a true innovation in terms of product appeal.
Sure they can. Especially since you wrote "more profit or more marketshare".Cant have the cake and eat it.
You will call me an Apple fan boy ;-) But it is no wonder that Android has a bigger market share. People are buying these nice looking (advanced in specs) devices- which are even cheaper than IOS, and see after some months of use that these devices slow down and become unreliable and they buy the next Android device, feeling this new device is great in the beginning, until it slows down again and the procedure repeats itself again and again...
What they don't see is that if they had bought the (slightly more expansive) iPhone they would have kept it at least for two years - without problems
- and would not be forced to replace it so often...
What an original and informed comment. Very helpful.
In the same vein, what good does market share do to the user? How am I disadvantaged by Android's 80% market share when, for its smaller market share, new apps and accessories still get released for iOS first?I keep reading about "profitability". It's good for Apple but what does profitability mean for you? Is Apple adding new features/hardware? The answer is no. Apple fanboys are the reason why these crappy iPhones are selling like hot cakes. There is no innovation. The first version of iPhone is a true innovation in terms of product appeal.
Good to see that you care. People should care. The more sales and money Apple makes, the more money they have to plow back into R&D to improve their products and come up with new product.
Deluded describes believing the figures do not matter.
I wish some of these 'analysts' would do a comparative report on profitability of iOS vs other software over same period of time... What is the use in being a market leader when your profits are wafer thin?
Fair. Like me and one of the other posters were discussing, you look at the iPhone and then you look at some of the similarly or better specced Android phones going for hundreds of dollars less, then you begin to wonder "Am I getting the proper value for this $750 phone?"But you don't realize with each passing quarter the 'high end phone' category deteriorates. You're confusing 'high end phone' with 'highest price phone'.
...new apps and accessories still get released for iOS first?
What's the relevance of profitability in a discussion about market share? It might serve as decent tool for hijacking a thread, but other than that...In the same vein, what good does market share do to the user? How am I disadvantaged by Android's 80% market share when, for its smaller market share, new apps and accessories still get released for iOS first?
You may not care about how profitable Apple is as a company, but that doesn't make profitability any less relevant a metric when discussing how successful Apple is.
I'm more convinced about this having to do with iPhone and iPad pricing. This isn't a good situation at all. iOS is a great platform and more people should be able to access it with a new device, not a device that is years out of date. No one will come to iOS if they can not afford to. Customers are actually moving away from iOS to Android, they are voting with their SIM and exiting the Apple carnival. No more clowning around. What other sign does Apple require to understand this basic issue. Pricing is completely wrong. iPhone is overpriced by at the very least $300.