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2016 Macbook Pro, Order/Shipping Thread

Brookzy said:
It's not been stuck in Eindhoven. Your tracking number only works once the parcel is in Europe. For the last four days it will have been en route from China to Eindhoven.
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Yes, I understand that. But the last time I bought a MacBook it was shipped with UPS. It was much more fun tracking it from China via Korea, Kazakhstan, Poland, Germany into East Midlands airport. This is just boring seeing it in Eindhoven.
Although I have just had a look and it is now in Amsterdam. Will be delivered on Monday.
 
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Just a quick question before I order.

What are the key differences between non-touch and touch 13" rMBP other than 15w CPU/28w CPU,, Iris 540/Iris 550, 2 vs 4 TB3, more battery capacity in non-touch bar vs touch bar?

Is there a difference in the displays at all?

What about SSD speeds?

Just wanting to check if the £300 premium is worth it, as although I wouldn't mind the CPU/GPU upgrade, I don't really want the touch bar.

Thank you
 
Ankii1996 said:
o_O I think they will charge you later or again, How can they sell this laptop for $1999 :O
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It was a price mistake on Amazon's part, but they confirmed to everyone via email earlier this week, including myself, that they would honor the $1999 price. Someone else was wondering if this is the non-touch bar model, but it is not (they don't make the 15" w/o Touch Bar)--it's the 15" MacBook Pro with Touch Bar, 512GB SSD, 2.7GHz i7 and Radeon Pro 455 GPU.
 
I just ordered the 15" with Touch Bar. 2.6 GHz base model, CTO with 1 TB SSD and RX460. $4063 CAD before tax (with EPP).
 
So Im sitting here wondering if I should have gone for 16GB of RAM... My current MBP has 8GB and ive been watching the usage of it over the last couple days and its been using 3/4 of it consistently. I dont really want to bump my order back but I dont want to get into a situation where I wish I had done it. Anyone got some insight? I plan to keep this computer for 6ish years.

Edit to add that most of the usage is cached data in RAM.
 
JPNFRK7 said:
So Im sitting here wondering if I should have gone for 16GB of RAM... My current MBP has 8GB and ive been watching the usage of it over the last couple days and its been using 3/4 of it consistently. I dont really want to bump my order back but I dont want to get into a situation where I wish I had done it. Anyone got some insight? I plan to keep this computer for 6ish years.

Edit to add that most of the usage is cached data in RAM.
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You should upgrade
 
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JPNFRK7 said:
So Im sitting here wondering if I should have gone for 16GB of RAM... My current MBP has 8GB and ive been watching the usage of it over the last couple days and its been using 3/4 of it consistently. I dont really want to bump my order back but I dont want to get into a situation where I wish I had done it. Anyone got some insight? I plan to keep this computer for 6ish years.
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I've been reading a lot about this, because I was in the same situation. Working daily (8 hours per day) with a late 2013 13" now with 8GB and it was ALWAYS sufficient.

So without hesitation I've placed a order for the new MacBook, again with 8GB.

Reading this forum and looking at the spreadsheet I started to second guess.... so informed with a systems engineer as read a lot of topics/articles.

Seems 8GB is, again, more than enhough for my use: word/excell/outlook/Todoist/agenda/safari (multiple taps)/win10 via parallels/sometimes photoshop

Heck, a designer I know works every day with a 8GB retina 13" (mid 2015) in photoshop etc without issues...

So: I stay with the 8GB
 
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JPNFRK7 said:
So Im sitting here wondering if I should have gone for 16GB of RAM... My current MBP has 8GB and ive been watching the usage of it over the last couple days and its been using 3/4 of it consistently. I dont really want to bump my order back but I dont want to get into a situation where I wish I had done it. Anyone got some insight? I plan to keep this computer for 6ish years.
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I coming back to Mac after many years away, so I don't have direct knowledge of how Mac is doing RAM management.
With that said, this is my view. RAM is meant to be used. What is the purpose of RAM if it sits there and remains unused? OSes will manage RAM and typically will free up RAM as it is needed. Note, even an OS with great RAM management can't overcome poorly written applications that have memory leaks. Additionally, with MAC being a BSD based OS, it should use swap space. Granted swap space isn't the most efficient, but it does its job.
I personally become concerned over my RAM usage when the performance of my system degrades and I can directly attribute it to a RAM shortage. If you don't have applications that require high RAM usage, I wouldn't upgrade. People that need more RAM tend to know they do for specific reasons.
All that said, the decision is yours and has to be based on your situation being when the device will be delivered, what your budget is, etc.
 
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Cremerhm said:
I've been reading a lot about this, because I was in the same situation. Working daily (8 hours per day) with a late 2013 13" now with 8GB and it was ALWAYS sufficient.

So without hesitation I've placed a order for the new MacBook, again with 8GB.

Reading this forum and looking at the spreadsheet I started to second guess.... so informed with a systems engineer as read a lot of topics/articles.

Seems 8GB is, again, more than enhough for my use: word/excell/outlook/Todoist/agenda/safari (multiple taps)/win10 via parallels/sometimes photoshop

Heck, a designer I know works every day with a 8GB retina 13" (mid 2015) in photoshop etc without issues...

So: I stay with the 8GB
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Not to mention that the type of ram is significantly faster than the kind of ram that is in the old retina MacBook pro's.
 
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Cremerhm said:
I've been reading a lot about this, because I was in the same situation. Working daily (8 hours per day) with a late 2013 13" now with 8GB and it was ALWAYS sufficient.

So without hesitation I've placed a order for the new MacBook, again with 8GB.

Reading this forum and looking at the spreadsheet I started to second guess.... so informed with a systems engineer as read a lot of topics/articles.

Seems 8GB is, again, more than enhough for my use: word/excell/outlook/Todoist/agenda/safari (multiple taps)/win10 via parallels/sometimes photoshop

Heck, a designer I know works every day with a 8GB retina 13" (mid 2015) in photoshop etc without issues...

So: I stay with the 8GB
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unashamedgeek said:
I coming back to Mac after many years away, so I don't have direct knowledge of how Mac is doing RAM management.
With that said, this is my view. RAM is meant to be used. What is the purpose of RAM if it sits there and remains unused? OSes will manage RAM and typically will free up RAM as it is needed. Note, even an OS with great RAM management can't overcome poorly written applications that have memory leaks. Additionally, with MAC being a BSD based OS, it should use swap space. Granted swap space isn't the most efficient, but it does its job.
I personally become concerned over my RAM usage when the performance of my system degrades and I can directly attribute it to a RAM shortage. If you don't have applications that require high RAM usage, I wouldn't upgrade. People that need more RAM tend to know they do for specific reasons.
All that said, the decision is yours and has to be based on your situation being when the device will be delivered, what your budget is, etc.
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Thanks guys. Nervousness got the best of me and I did it. I'd rather future proof myself than wish I had done it. Coming from a 2010 MBP that originally had 4GB of RAM and upgraded it years later to 8GB because my needs changed. Thats just not possible with these new macs without starting over. So I bit the bullet and Ill see my Macbook Pro 13" Touch with 16GB RAM sometime in the beginning of December. It sucks but Ill be happier.
 
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Ma2k5 said:
Just a quick question before I order.

What are the key differences between non-touch and touch 13" rMBP other than 15w CPU/28w CPU,, Iris 540/Iris 550, 2 vs 4 TB3, more battery capacity in non-touch bar vs touch bar?

Is there a difference in the displays at all?

What about SSD speeds?

Just wanting to check if the £300 premium is worth it, as although I wouldn't mind the CPU/GPU upgrade, I don't really want the touch bar.

Thank you
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Displays and keyboard are the same.

In regards to Iris differences, per Notebookcheck.net "Compared to the Iris Graphics 540 of the 15-watt series, the Iris Graphics 550 differs only by its slightly higher maximum clock and a nearly doubled TDP, which allows a better utilization of the Turbo Boost."

Benchmarks for each are here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Graphics-540.149939.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Graphics-550.149937.0.html

The 13" Touch has 2133MHz DDR3 RAM compared to 1866MHz DDR3 on the non-touch (a good increase IMO). Obviously the Touch as the 2 extra USB-C ports as well which is great, but it also will also you to charge the Touch from either side too.

SSD speeds will be similar. Really the biggest difference on this isn't the specific unit but the capacity you pick. Higher capacity SSDs should give you noticeably better write speeds. Read speeds should be about the same, however.

Battery life is definitely going to be better on the non-Touch.
 
heeloliver said:
My ship to store says available Nov 25. Does anyone think it could be available before then?
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Yes. Don't hold me to it, but I think that they are being conservative with shipping. Your ship-to-store date is also black Friday, so I hope you don't have to pick it up then . . .
 
Yaemon said:
Too slow, too slow.
They should add a new option when ordering: "pick up in China" so that we can fly there and personally watch them assembling our BTO machine before picking it up :D It would also be a cool vacation!
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And people complained about the price of the MacBook? That shipping would be horrendous!

Don't get me wrong, I'd be at the plant too...
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aaron5566 said:
Oh no, my adapters aren't going to arrive on time then!
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So what adapters is everyone buying? I bought a USB-c to USB A converter but that is it so far. I have a Mac Mini I use on my desktop so I don't think I need any video adapters.

Just curious what others are doing.
 
xmonkey said:
SSD speeds will be similar. Really the biggest difference on this isn't the specific unit but the capacity you pick. Higher capacity SSDs should give you noticeably better write speeds. Read speeds should be about the same, however.
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Judging by the benchmarks for the non-Touch Bar MBP it looks like even the 256GB model is delivering the "up-to" 3GBps read, 2GBps write Apple quoted. I wonder if the larger capacities will be even faster than Apple says.

Either way I was glad to see these benchmarks because I went for 256GB because I use hardly any storage; but then I was worried I'd get a slower drive.
 
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