I've learned to not keep a single damn important thing ON my iMac/Macs. All on separate SSD/HDD or dropbox style places.
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2016 Touch Bar...DEAD SSD!!!
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You have probably hit on another factor in Apple's thinking, in regard to cloud storage. Apple seems to think that's the direction of things, so that internal SSDs will be mainly for programs and large tasks, not so much for long-term data storage in years to come. If they're right, you may not be so tempted to upgrade on account of SSD size next time.
As long as I'm in India I will be, sadly. Uncapped data plans are unheard of here unless you're willing to tolerate painfully slow speeds, which just isn't a realistic option for me.
Edit: I'm also not one to trust these 'cloud' services with sensitive information. I'd MUCH rather just have my info on my computer and not lying-around on some server somewhere 'out there'.
I've begun to feel the same regardless of platform. Keeping everything in one place means it's all gonna disappear if there's a disaster. More onboard storage just means more stuff to back up (or lose).
It's like the perceived wisdom of buying a 4x4 truck: it'll just get you stuck farther away from help.
The reality is that MOST people don't upgrade a drive on their Macs and 8 or 16 GB of RAM is enough memory for most users.
I have friends doing heavy video/film work (Features) and they don't worry about internal drives. They're professionals and have external storage systems. The professional wants enough drive space to do the work, NOT for long term storage that's not even secure.
I have the 13's TB and 15" TB for photo work. Why on Earth would I need a 1TB drive??? Why on Earth would I store valuable and massive groups of client work on a laptop??? That's not how a professional works. My SSD is for the software and work, not storage. I keep my internal drives as clean as possible.
Think about it. Buy external SSD's and don't worry about the internal one. This is not only better and safer, it's also very inexpensive.
R.
I have friends doing heavy video/film work (Features) and they don't worry about internal drives. They're professionals and have external storage systems. The professional wants enough drive space to do the work, NOT for long term storage that's not even secure.
I have the 13's TB and 15" TB for photo work. Why on Earth would I need a 1TB drive??? Why on Earth would I store valuable and massive groups of client work on a laptop??? That's not how a professional works. My SSD is for the software and work, not storage. I keep my internal drives as clean as possible.
Think about it. Buy external SSD's and don't worry about the internal one. This is not only better and safer, it's also very inexpensive.
R.
India may be different in a few years, but yes, in some places the cloud may be less of an option. I agree in being reluctant to keep my stuff out where I don't as directly control it. It seems many people, especially those younger than I, don't have such inhibitions.
Which is how celebs get 'hacked' and have their nudes splashed all over the internet!
I don't trust technicians or thieves either. Any information that contains proprietary or sensitive info, is kept on encrypted and passworded external drives, and only travel with the machine if necessary. I wouldn't keep anything on an internal drive that I wouldn't write down in a notebook.
I work & travel globally, I only load what is required for the project with all being encrypted. Traveling with two systems is common, equally they never leave my sight unless adequately secured. For me it's cheaper to remotely wipe the hardware than deal with the consequence of the loss of sensitive business data, cost of my reference documentation alone outstrips the price of a fully optioned 15" MBP by tenfold. Same applies to backup drives being fully encrypted.
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Minor correction. Samsung Pro 960 pro, not 950 pro is just as fast. (960, 3.5 GB/sec; 950 2.2 GB/sec)
Agreed! USB 3.1/TB3 these days, external drives are VERY VERY fast! Not NVME speeds, but still VERY good! That is why I only got the 512GB drive. I can have my external SSDs operate at several hundred MB/s.
Right you are. I'm a photographer and the 256 GB is more than enough. For actual storage I have 3 TB of external storage and only 1 TB is SSD at the moment because I don't even need that much speed.
I did have the chance to see a base 15" tMBP vs. a version with a 512 GB drive and 2.7 processor. Using Lightroom and Photoshop there was no difference. In FCP there was a difference in rendering time, but in actual workflow they were virtually the same.
The bigger jump is performance is visible between my 15" tMBP and 13" i5 base tMBP.
But getting back to the main point...soldered SSD doesn't mean much. Back it up, baby!
R.
That's very fast! Don't see any Mac advantage over that, apart from being a bit more compact.
Definitely no speed advantage. I have both the 950 Pro and 960 Pro. Both are very fast.
One time, I had to deal with a "minor" spill.
Just looking at the interior, it looks like someone did an ice bucket challenge on it.
The SSD along with everything else is completely soaked.
I dried the SSD and put in the the enclosure and it works without a hitch.
In other words, these SSDs are actually quite durable.
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The reality is that most people don't buy Macs.
If you want to talk about what MOST people do, then your first argument is invalid.
Precisely.
SSDs are, by and large, very much more durable than hard discs are, especially when they're the 2.5" internal SATA kind with the shroud around the PCB. I've lost count of how many hard drives I've had fail over the past 25 odd years, I've yet to have an SSD fail on me and I'm now up to around 8 SSDs of various sizes.
One time a dog I rescued peed into my desktop PC's tower case when I was away from home! I nearly died of fright when I discovered the unwanted 'watering' several days later. Took everything apart, made sure everything was cleaned-up (it was obviously dry by then) and put it all back together. Two hard drives were dead as can be. No power at all and could not be rescued. The 1TB Samsung 840 Evo I had in there had got corroded by the pee but it worked just fine and is still doing duty in the machine. Learnt my lesson then. Never used an internal hard drive again.
Glad it worked for you. But, if that have been me I would have made a copy of the data to a "clean" drive, and set the computer on fire.
There is a lot of bad information in this thread that needs clearing up.
The premise of Apple's special tool is that it allows data recovery from the SSD of a logic board which cannot enter Target Disk mode normally. If it could, you wouldn't need the tool in the first place.
The black box contains controller chips and other assorted goodies which mimic a logic board closely enough to permit Target Disk functions. Except, of course, the actual data storage you need to access. The ribbon cable goes to the mystery connector on the dead logic board, and provides a direct pathway to those soldered chips. Unless there's physical damage between the connector and the chips, it will work. The misunderstanding might be that once connected, the interface is Target Disk mode. The good Mac see's the setup just the same as a traditional Target Disk situation.
All the discussion about why external power is required for this black box is precisely because of all the extra stuff it contains. That power isn't all being sent to the dead logic board.
Hopefully that all makes sense.
Sorry to spoil the big secret 007. The tool is called a Customer Data Migration (CDM) Tool and is part #B076-00236. It's only "supposed" to be available to Apple or Certified Apple Repair centers, but there's ways to get them. Costs about $200.
The premise of Apple's special tool is that it allows data recovery from the SSD of a logic board which cannot enter Target Disk mode normally. If it could, you wouldn't need the tool in the first place.
The black box contains controller chips and other assorted goodies which mimic a logic board closely enough to permit Target Disk functions. Except, of course, the actual data storage you need to access. The ribbon cable goes to the mystery connector on the dead logic board, and provides a direct pathway to those soldered chips. Unless there's physical damage between the connector and the chips, it will work. The misunderstanding might be that once connected, the interface is Target Disk mode. The good Mac see's the setup just the same as a traditional Target Disk situation.
All the discussion about why external power is required for this black box is precisely because of all the extra stuff it contains. That power isn't all being sent to the dead logic board.
Hopefully that all makes sense.
Sorry to spoil the big secret 007. The tool is called a Customer Data Migration (CDM) Tool and is part #B076-00236. It's only "supposed" to be available to Apple or Certified Apple Repair centers, but there's ways to get them. Costs about $200.
Do the newest Macs even have TDM? I really miss that feature for my Firewire MBPs.
How does one enter TDM on the current and MagSafe2 Macs?
I don't know why you posted this but thank you, I had seriously been looking for details on this tool since 2016! Now to get my own.
I've been searching high and low myself and came across this thread. Figured I'd share what I know for others looking. I love Apple and all, but they're a real PITA about this data recovery tool for some reason.
