Trying to understand the bezel hatred. Upside of smaller bezels puzzling, unless they're "fashionable".
allows for bigger screen size, yet small overall form factor, easy to hold and use
Trying to understand the bezel hatred. Upside of smaller bezels puzzling, unless they're "fashionable".
Reasonable answer but how much more until there isn't anywhere to hold it, space for speaker slot, front camera, IR sensor, light sensor, etc? The "chin" could slim down a bit but then the phone is smaller so something else has to go with it.allows for bigger screen size, yet small overall form factor, easy to hold and use
Nothing to gain from a steel case. Except to say it would be a steel case.aluminium is great on the macbook as it is, what about having stainless steel for macbook pro? would the hardware still be optimized for mac os performance?![]()
Does that mean there won't be a curved display?..Kuo believes Apple is more likely to stick with slightly curved 2.5D cover glass on the 2017 iPhone, as used on iPhone 6s, rather than adopt a fully curved 3D design,
it practically didn't scratch.iPhone 4 had a glass back and front and people still used covers and sleeves to protect because despite being glass, it still scratched.
allows for bigger screen size, yet small overall form factor, easy to hold and use
I would love a Stainless steel iPhone. Complete eye candy for me. And the Jet Black iPhone will be a thing of the past when this debuts.
That was my initial thought as well. I use a 6 Plus, and my small hands and pockets would welcome something along the lines of a 5.5" screen in an area typically occupied by a 4.7" screen.
I figured I could somewhat test that by grabbing my trusty old iPhone 4. Its certainly as small as you'd want to go, real easy to hold onto, and would certainly benefit from a larger screen. I also dug up a dead 5s to try the same usability tests.
Perhaps it would get more comfortable over time. Using one handed and moving around the device as if I was interacting with a much larger screen area, it was a bit awkward and a less secure hold while typing and swiping near the top and bottom edges of the device. And I had to shift the device in my hand anyway to service those top and bottom areas of the imagined screen with my thumb. Not an unqualified usability improvement for me. Those large bezels keep your interaction closer to the center of the device, where there's more stability. Yes, it's easier to transport and hold those smaller devices, but the ability to get around a larger screen is not improved. Once again, for me. If anyone has a different experience, please let me know. I've led a pretty sheltered life
A virtual home button frees up the bottom bezel for some serious reduction, but the top bezel needs area for speaker, camera, and sensors. And, futuristic mock ups showing usable screen covering the entire top of a device certainly look hot, but has anyone done this in a production device?
The SE proved you can pack most of the power of a 6s into the body of a 5s. What remains unknown is whether it's possible to pack a larger screen with 3D Touch into that same form factor. Or even just 3D Touch, disregarding a larger screen. I'm sure there are many reasons the SE did not get the full 6s treatment.
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Were those highly polished, easily scratched backs of early iPods stainless steel or just chromed steel? Either way, they sucked unless encased in InvisibleShield.
I had a brushed steel Motorola flip phone with a beautiful finish that could care less if it was stuffed naked everyday into a pocket with keys.
Just how far have we come since then?
Exactly my thought. which is why i doubt this rumor is true. I don't think Jony wants to relive Antenagate all over again.
*puts in year early preorder for iPhone 8*
*phone still gets back ordered until February 2018*
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Yeah it's called holding your iPhone from the sides like normal people. The top and bottom bezels are ridiculously large here in 2016. Happy to hear Apple is looking to reduce them in 2017. Hope it's true.Umm, I don't see an issue and bezels give users a place to hold device.
[doublepost=1475191528][/doublepost]I hear it as two models but with a high end spec variation rather than an entirely distinct model. Similar to how the watch line was.
Exactly. Which is why I find it ironic that Google is seemingly so late to copy something that most likely is finally changing next year with the iPhone 8. (If rumors prove true of course.)FYI iPhones sell like hot cakes. Have been for close to a decade. The look is iconic, almost generic at this point. Hell, most smartphone icons are made to look like an iPhone, because everyone recognizes it. Like it or not, the iPhone shape is built into our culture. Google knows this.
Besides them being tired, stale and outdated by today's standards? In theory, inner component workings aside, if the home button is going away the overly huge top and bottom bezel can be reduced to make for a smaller overall device, and greatly improving screen to body ratio.Trying to understand the bezel hatred. Upside of smaller bezels puzzling, unless they're "fashionable".
He's been consistently accurate and always first to report such things; he reported the iPad Pro 12 inch over a year before launch.This is an empty, nothing prediction.
It bears no similarity to the kinds of information he leaks close to launches when he receives info from his sources.
I agree. Vanity prevail over practicality.Practicality be damned![]()
that is iphon 7? how much many?
Going to be tough to hold by the sides if the other absurd rumors are true. I am just not that worried about adding two or three millimeters of screen. The hyperbole regarding the "gigantic" bezels is tired. Raging about the bezels seems like demanding change for the sake of change rather than greatly improving function. Why not complain about the display still being a rectangle instead of the cool new triangle format!?!Yeah it's called holding your iPhone from the sides like normal people. The top and bottom bezels are ridiculously large here in 2016. Happy to hear Apple is looking to reduce them in 2017. Hope it's true.
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Exactly. Which is why I find it ironic that Google is seemingly so late to copy something that most likely is finally changing next year with the iPhone 8. (If rumors prove true of course.)
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Besides them being tired, stale and outdated by today's standards? In theory, inner component workings aside, if the home button is going away the overly huge top and bottom bezel can be reduced to make for a smaller overall device, and greatly improving screen to body ratio.
Going to be tough to hold by the sides if the other absurd rumors are true. I am just not that worried about adding two or three millimeters of screen. The hyperbole regarding the "gigantic" bezels is tired. Raging about the bezels seems like demanding change for the sake of change rather than greatly improving function. Why not complain about the display still being a rectangle instead of the cool new triangle format!?!
The home button isn't going anywhere... at least not until retina scanning or something like that is a viable option. The camera modules are not getting any smaller either (Apple cannot change physics of optics). All the other sensors, ear speaker slot, etc. need a home that is not nested underneath the screen.
I don’t understand why people have a problem with this. When I by a base model 316d I don't get an LSD like I do if I buy an M3. Is that not the same?
As much as this would make customers happy, it would perhaps come with a cost. For example something internally would have to be reworked or removed in order to fit the dual lens camera system in the 4.7 inch device.
People would probably be more upset with less battery capacity etc, in order for the dual lens to fit, if that's the case
However you choose to look at it. The 7 Series has a lot more features than the 3 series. They look a bit different so lets go with Audi. They are all virtually identical in all but size but you get a v8 in the RS6 and not the RS3/4.
Don't see that happening, but doesn't hurt to make your voice heard.
The larger form factor has more space for advanced internals, and is more expensive to produce. Those facts alone push it into premium territory. A high end casing and better screen standard on an already more expensive device seems logical.
The most popular size is still 4.7", and needs to have a price sensitive member of the lineup. A high end 4.7" would be yet another model. A Pro line with both sizes is even less likely.
Hold onto hope that the larger device will be a friendlier size than its current incarnation.
Stainless?Reasonable answer but how much more until there isn't anywhere to hold it, space for speaker slot, front camera, IR sensor, light sensor, etc? The "chin" could slim down a bit but then the phone is smaller so something else has to go with it.
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Nothing to gain from a steel case. Except to say it would be a steel case.
Apple needs to ditch the rounded design and go back to the boxy iPhone4/5/SE design, albeit thinner of course lol.
Reason#1 Its slippery as ****.
Reason #2 It looks better.
Apple needs to reduce those side bezels as well, while they're at it, and ditch that symmetrical ****, and make the top bezel smaller than the bottom for god's sake - it'll shrink the device to a good size.
Oh yeah, bring the power button back to the top, it works way better - but this can only happen if they shrink the body as suggested above.
I believe Macrumors does normally say if the analysts have any credibility or not. I believe this source has a pretty good batting average if I am remembering it correctly.We need to have a kind of "Reverse-MacRumors" where we look at previous predictions from these analysts and then call them out on why they were right/wrong on certain things.
You should try to know the difference between 1) when he reports things that he has heard from sources, which are almost always accurate and 2) when he makes typical nonsense predictions as any analyst does. He is not citing sources here. He is saying I THINK based on Jet Black popularity.He's been consistently accurate and always first to report such things; he reported the iPad Pro 12 inch over a year before launch.
I believe it
More product fragmentation? Steel only for the very highest of the high end? I thought all iPhones were supposed to be high end? Steel and glass did just fine with the iPhone 4/4S so why do they need to be ultramega premium now?
I call BS. Apple are not this stupid.
More product fragmentation? Steel only for the very highest of the high end? I thought all iPhones were supposed to be high end? Steel and glass did just fine with the iPhone 4/4S so why do they need to be ultramega premium now?
I call BS. Apple are not this stupid.