Tbh though, the retina display + OLED = even better, as I read somewhere
the retina display apparently appesrs sharper than oLED alone, partly cuz of the design
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the retina display apparently appesrs sharper than oLED alone, partly cuz of the design
I was at the Verizon store and asked one of the employees there about what he thought of the curved screen on HIS phone. He said it was genuinely useless. What use is a section of screen that is curved over the edge of the phone in a tight arc. It is a gimmick. I know I'd rather, you know, look at the screen for information than squint at the distorted narrow curved side-display. Just because it can be engineered doesn't mean it is better.
I dont really get this.
My iPhone 6 - 24 months old has a curved screen.
But the curve and basel serve ZERO purpose
I ask you and Verizon employee the same question what use does it serve?
- why not make use of ALL the precious screen real estate?
The ticker tape idea could be made so squinting not needed with a disable function.
I was watching a TV at my brothers earlier inexpensive £200 flat screen at approx 160 degrees.
TV basel is vertually zero nowadays I wonder why that is.
An old TV with basel-
2016
https://m.johnlewis.com/lg-oled65b6...sound-blade-slim-design-uhd-premium/p/2655343
Wheres the basel gone - its vanished Why?
Not needed.
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I was lucky enough to own both these PDA's in the 90s I'll let you guess which generation is 1st and which 2nd
The overal size of the clam shell design of the Psion 3 Series was the same.
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I believe its easier to write or hold a round pen or pencil than a square one.
A sharp edge just does not feel right.
1st gen iPhone curved edge felt just right.
A sharp edge just does not feel right.
1st gen iPhone curved edge felt just right.
Retina is just a marketing term dude,at certain resolution..
so any high quality screen could technically be "retina" or even better (higher resolutions such as the ones in flagship Galaxies,etc)
also OLED is better than LCD period.LCD being "retina" only means it has a certain resolution,Retina is not a technical feature like you imagined.
I care about more what macbooks are made of - solid aluminium feels great in contrast to the cheaper materials used by microsofti don't really care too much what it's made out of. i'd just like for it to be able to stand on it's own again. Flat sides were great.
i miss them
I care about more what macbooks are made of - solid aluminium feels great in contrast to the cheaper materials used by microsoft
Are you ****ing kidding me? Cheaper materials! Man, the Apple propaganda machine really does work!
MacBooks are made out of aluminium - the same material you're coke can is made of, although different alloy.
Microsoft's Surface lineup is made out of magnesium - better thermal dissipation, lighter as well, and the alloy that MS uses is more expensive than Apple's aluminium alloy.
Stop living in a bubble.
I like the MBP as well, its one of the first notebooks to herald industrial design, but the Surface lineup is shaping up to be pretty good as well.
Not sure you know what you are talking about. Basel is a Swiss town. Bezel is the frame surrounding a display. Where is this huge gigantic unnecessary bezel on the iPhone?
Yes, thank you for correcting my spelling of bezel, but you know exactly what I'm taking about so no need to patronise.
"Where is this huge gigantic unnecessary bezel on the iPhone?" -
"Fragmentation" was the chosen word, or label, Apple and their warriors used to relentlessly bash Android smartphone makers for simply offering _choices_ for buyers.
Finally... Apple has began offering more sizes and choices (Think iPads and iPhones) which is a very smart move. One that's overdue.
These early rumors about the upcoming iPhone are some of the best speculation I've read about Apple in years. Perhaps the sleeping giant is about to get serious and fully apply themselves. If so, the future truly looks bright...
Is this your first visit to the forums? It's been known for months that next years iPhone will be the one getting the redesign. Exactly why I decided to hold off on getting the 7
Do you seriously think the 2-3 millimeters of space the screen could expand into is really worthy of all the hyperbole? Genuinely visualize it in practice.
While we're left to guess how Apple might redesign and engineer the forthcoming iPhone 8, I'm personally holding out hope that the home button functionality might be "embedded" within the front screen allowing Apple to reduce the current monstrous top and bottom bezel size to improve screen to body ratio, thus reducing the iphone's overall size footprint.
I think you've missed the arrows above and below "the screen".
• iPhone 7 and 6 Plus-
Overall dimensions
6.23inches x 3.07inches = 19.13 inches² LESS SCREEN SIZE [5.5-inch (diagonal)] approx ASPECT RATIO 16:9 - 12.93 inches²
% Screen that is bazel and wasted- 32.41%
• iPhone 7 and 6-
Overall dimensions
5.44inches x 2.64inches = 14.36 inches² LESS SCREEN SIZE [4.7-inch (diagonal)] approx ASPECT RATIO 16:9 - 9.43 inches²
% Screen that is bazel and wasted - 34.33%
• iPhone SE-
Overall dimensions
4.87inches x 2.31inches = 11.25 inches² LESS SCREEN SIZE [4 -inch (diagonal)] approx ASPECT RATIO 16:9 - 6.84 inches²
% Screen that is bazel and wasted- 39.2%
Average waste of screen across iPhone range 35.31%
Apple have 487 stores worldwide if they closed 35.31% of them as WASTED SPACE they would close 172 stores and be left with 315 (two stores less than six years ago in 2010 - 317 stores)
or another comparison:
I think its fair to say the screen is the number one most important part of the iPhone.
Based on the iPhone 7 256GB model at £799.00 or $1036.98 a % Screen that is bazel and wasted - 34.33%
is a waste of £274.30 or $365.00
I consider this to be significant.
ps
Basel, Switzerland is not a town as you stated its a city sorry to have to correct you:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel
thanks to:
http://tvcalculator.com
http://www.skillsyouneed.com/num/percent-change.html
http://www.percentagecalculator.net
http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Store
https://www.statista.com/statistics/273480/number-of-apple-stores-worldwide-since-2005/
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Why? It's not even out for another year.
When it's released, buy the iPhone 8. Easy.
Im not talking about
well, regardless what is wvident is that mac hardware is better optimized for performance than win hardware
[doublepost=1475332377][/doublepost]Perhaps having owned a high end macbook and a mid spec windows laptop, im a tad biased
The hardware has nothing to do with it
its the OS, that is optmized for certain specific conditions that Apple controls
Apple hardware is identical to Windows PC hardware. The only difference is Apple uses their own EUFI implementation to control what is installable. Using a hack of the EUFI you can actually install ANY OS on Apple's computers. There hardware is only proprietary at the "design" level.
Where you're seeing SOME better performance is the Operating system itself and what hardware access it allows the software to have. Apple reserves certain API's and system calls exclusively for their software, and I'll give them credit that they can make great efficient software.
But they can do this because they don't have a wide array of hardware to support. Unlike WIndows, which can handle just about any hardware you can throw at it, OSx does not include drivers and API's for everything under the sun.
However, once you strip out those calls, performance is very similar in most cases. And anything, similar to gaming in style, OSx currently severely lacks, and performs significantly worse than their windows counterparts.
I have tested this on multiple hardware platforms running both OSx and Windows. There are some places Apple excells at no matter what hardware it's on, Their own, or a hackintosh, and some that it fails at, no matter what hardware their on.
and yes, you have a bias (almost everyone does, that itself isn't wrong). I just want to say that if you're going to make comparisons, do so from a position of knowledge, and from equal footing. it's like comparing a $500 windows piece of **** laptop to Apple's $2500 one and wondering why that $500 only lasted 1 year and was a laggy piece of junk.
TLDR version: It has nothing to do with "Optimized hardware" but more to do with Apple optimizing specific items in their software for a limited set of hardware configurations.
That isn't wasted empty space. There are essential elements of the phone located at the top and bottom. The earphone slot so you can hear your calls, the light sensor so the screen adjusts brightness, IR sensor so that the phone shuts off screen during calls, the front facing camera for things like FaceTime, the home button that has been a main navigational and/or security element on every iPhone. These things cannot be displaced and therefore cannot be a waste of space as you allege. Using your store metaphor, it is like saying a store doesn't need to waste space on utilities. Without the utilities, the store would not have heat, power, A/C, air filtering, etc.
Apple will find a perfect way to integrate all the items you mentioned and rid us of the dreadful bazel that I promise you.
no bezel looks cool but no practical purpose. one example is using a case. it is hard to type with a case on iphone today already. my friend owns a Note 7 and his case has no left/right edge protection at all, totally exposed. it is begging for damage sooner or later. Holding and controlling a phone without bezel is weird. accidental touch is unavoidable.
to have no bezel is to have form over function. and it is gimmick like Samsung curve TV.
That's true, and there's also that nasty plastic iPhone C which flopped. I hope they learned that nobody wants to pay extra for a mediocre Apple product. Judging by the iPhone 7's camera performance I'm not so sure. It gets creamed by Samsung, HTC, Sony, and Motorola.