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Battery performance is worse than that of the 2017 X model? Clearly not a favorable comparison, especially with a brand new battery that, with use, will be below 80% capacity well within 2 years.
 
My 6 is butter(ish) smooth with ios12. Seriously, was ready to dump it pre-update, now I can’t justify it.
This is good to hear. I'm still on iOS 11 with an OG 6. It's pretty laggy and has poor battery life even though I got a battery replacement a few months ago. If it turns out okay with the new update, I may hold off on upgrading for another year.
 
Just another piece of evidence that there's no reason to upgrade if you have an X. Especially if you have a Verizon or Sprint model with a Qualcomm modem.
 
Why am I not surprised they made the battery on XS again smaller than on X? The battery life is still nothing to write home about in any real life situation but they just insist on making the batteries smaller and smaller, thinking it won't drain just as fast as soon as you actually use any of the power of that device. Sure, it'll work if you glance the screen every once in a while and keep it in sleep mode most of the day. Use it and it'll drain before the day is over. Then again, they need to do that so they can sell their $500 AirPower mats to your car, home, office and whatever else. Assuming they ever get it to work. Or more probably figure out a way to charge an exorbitant price for an average charging mat. Maybe integrate Siri on it so it can misunderstand you in several different ways!
 
If people were ga ga over the small form factor, they’d have made another one.

Apple services most people. Most people want a bigger phone.

This logic is mistaken. Apple services its shareholders.

When producing a product line, things like profitability and cannibalization have to be considered.

To suggest that the SE was killed and not replaced because of lack of demand is an assumption not sufficiently supported by evidence. There is no doubt that a niche of customers desiring smaller devices exists. And niches do matter—otherwise we wouldn’t have multiple product lines to begin with.

It’s more likely that when the group responsible for projections did its financial analysis, they determined that overall profit would be better by simply offering the iPhone 7 at $449. Profitability has a lot of inputs.
 
Coming from an iPhone X to an iPhone XS Max, I disagree. My battery life on the X was awful. I get much better battery life on my new phone.
 
Went from X to XS Max. Massive improvement in battery life for me.

I just got the iPhone XS Max and have used it for 2 days normal use taking and making a few phone calls reading emails browsing the web installing and using apps and after 2 days of use without charging the battery is still at 49% Very impressive!
 
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I know that Tom’s Guide is well respected. However, after reading this article I looked at other similar ‘battery drain tests’. As a result I have come to understand that many testers will ‘gimp’ the Note 9 and other quad resolution phones by running their tests with the screens at lower resolutions than the phones are advertised at.
If Tom’s and others were really being fair they would run these tests at the respective phones advertised resolutions. Examples:
 
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This logic is mistaken. Apple services its shareholders.

When producing a product line, things like profitability and cannibalization have to be considered.

To suggest that the SE was killed and not replaced because of lack of demand is an assumption not sufficiently supported by evidence. There is no doubt that a niche of customers desiring smaller devices exists. And niches do matter—otherwise we wouldn’t have multiple product lines to begin with.

It’s more likely that when the group responsible for projections did its financial analysis, they determined that overall profit would be better by simply offering the iPhone 7 at $449. Profitability has a lot of inputs.
Apple’s shareholders aren’t going to be well serviced unless their customers are happy.

Resources are limited. Sell what’s going to make the most money and what the people want, and those two things are certainly related.

I think the majority of people, in the US and especially in Asia, want a lower cost, larger iPhone and that phone is the 7 and 8 series with a Plus variant.

To remove the 7 and say “here, you can have an SE,” would be a very large mistake.

Maybe we’ll get an SE in the future. But the market has spoken pretty clearly—people want larger devices.
 
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What battery life can I expect if I upgrade from the iPhone 5 to the iPhone 7? I really prefer the smaller form factor and aluminium construction.

The battery is neither small nor of aluminum construction so I suspect you will be disappointed.
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Still at 37% after 15:15

I am impressed
 
Apple’s shareholders aren’t going to be well serviced unless their customers are happy.

Resources are limited. Sell what’s going to make the most money and what the people want, and those two things are certainly related.

I think the majority of people, in the US and especially in Asia, want a lower cost, larger iPhone and that phone is the 7 and 8 series with a Plus variant.

To remove the 7 and say “here, you can have an SE,” would be a very large mistake.

Maybe we’ll get an SE in the future. But the market has spoken pretty clearly—people want larger devices.

You glossed over the substance of pretty much everything I said. I also never said anything about “removing” the 7.

I’ll repeat the key point succinctly so there’s no way it can get lost this time: talking about “people” or “most people” is irrelevant in the context of a product lineup.

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Product Development Guy
 
Wait the iPhone X was tested last year. We know over the years website data amounts have changed while we still want good battery life, it'd be nice to see the battery life if you got a band new X (I know discontinued but there's still some out there) and did this test today.
 
I know that Tom’s Guide is well respected. However, after reading this article I looked at other similar ‘battery drain tests’. As a result I have come to understand that many testers will ‘gimp’ the Note 9 and other quad resolution phones by running their tests with the screens at lower resolutions than the phones are advertised at.
If Tom’s and others were really being fair they would run these tests at the respective phones advertised resolutions. Examples:

I agree fair is fair.

In some of the battery tests I have seen some YouTubers max out the brightness on the iPhone X and X’s/max and not the android handsets.

Ironic thing is the Xs and X’s max seem to beat them too.


Wow did not expect the Xs to beat the note 9.
Xs max is crushing it.
 
What battery life can I expect if I upgrade from the iPhone 5 to the iPhone 7? I really prefer the smaller form factor and aluminium construction.

The 7 was a problem plagued phone. You are warned. Battery blah, cellular reception always 2 bars below wife’s 6S+. See the not widely advertised or easily located iPhone 7 “no service” (almost secret) extended warranty repair on Apples Support pages for a bad chip. She wants new. If the XR actually works unlike the XS series in our weak signal area, she can have one. I’ll take the 6S+ with its HP jack, no notch and Touch ID gladly. Then I’ll go to Galaxy S10 if it’s as good as leaks say.
 
I’m returning my XS the battery sucks, now I’m having signal issues with the WiFi kicking off my own network when I’m right next to the router and I got no network errors on the google app, and my email wouldn’t refresh, when I had full LTE (screen shot below). I wish I saw these problems sooner before I sent my 8 back. I’m gonna get an X from Verizon instead and save a big whopping 100 bucks.

What do you guys think?

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