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The lid casing is thinner to reduce weight, which has to mean that it will likely flex and get damaged more easily, which most likely won't be covered by any warranty. Replacements will generate profit for Apple without any need for apologies, class action suits etc. Clever.

The Bolded is nothing more than a mere assumption and a broad stroked statement on your behalf. Even If it were true, it doesn’t mean everybody would experience that scenario depending how they treat their property. Also, you cannot assume something if you don’t have experience with a product yet either.
 
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It does seem that Apple’s corporate goal is to eventually score a resounding 0 in iFixit reviews. Users shall buy and outfit with only Apple options at purchase time and shalt stay out of those inner component compartments else suffer the wrath of Applecare. Apple indirectly says their hardware is simply a throwaway device, when they break go buy another one.

Thinner is NOT better. Flexing, cracking, warping, denting, and bending serve only to overstress internal components and lead to failure. Therefore, early failure, just outside of warranty, leads to product replacement enforcing Apple’s throwaway concept.

In the early years, Apple’s greatest attraction was their outstanding innovation, product versatility and reliability. Now, it seems, they’ve decided their customer base is totally captive and minimal hardware development is sufficient. To insure corporate profitability they’ve led their customers to subliminally believe in the throwaway concept.
 
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Made without compromises looks like that... I'm an electrical engineer and their hardware is always pure pornography.

The components they use are hand picked, every capacitor, inductor, mosfet, etc. is of good quality, the layouts are without compromise (means they are using expensive multi-layer PCB's), there's basically no space wasted, no random cables or wires going from one place to another, the air paths are unrestricted, etc.

You'll not like this then

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Wrong forum for justification.

I'd say straw man anyway. For example, every other computer PCB is going to be multi-layer.
 
Nothing looks better than Macs inside.


And LOL @ the repair score. We know iFixit hates Apple, won't stop anybody from buying a MBP.

They don't hate Apple, the score is related to repairs - many other laptops and products also scored low due to it not being very user servicable. There is no conspiracy against Apple. It is a justified score, a lot of people have to shell out for the whole top or bottom case for an individual component.
 
Like you there are others that would complain to Apple’s direction and similar to decisions like this.

Top case being replaced with keyboard. This is a ver SMART move by the manufacturer. I just called Lenovo 3wks ago to repair a P50 which TrackPoint and TrackPad stopped working (drivers where updated, fully removed and installed updated versions to no success). Premier supper text arrived to repair and was unsuccessful. The part that arrived was a full top case including keyboard, TrackPoint and TrackPad. The follow up call had cabling along with another new top case with all parts included and that did the trick.

Considering just how dirty the keyboard and TrackPoint was along with Fade on the trackpad this was like getting a NEW laptop for the corporate Lenovo user.

Ifixits rating of 1-10 for repair ability:

I like this because Apple has so many stores globally and warranty and customer service support has proven greatly above paying for higher tier. In person support.

From your post, you claim the single unit topcase for minor repairs is "smart" because it was like getting a new laptop.

Here is my problem: (1) what happens to the useable parts, including the battery? This is important both from a shareholder and environmental point of view. (2) what happens when the warranty expires? Our environment is suffering due to our culture of throw-away appliances. It is wasteful and irresponsible IMO to simply discard appliances (including computers) because it becomes more cost effective to buy new than to replace defective parts on an otherwise functional appliance. This throw away economy is a choice and a product of design. It is not necessary.

At the very least, Apple could make the battery replaceable (rather than glue it in) like it is in Lenovo's X1 Carbon, which is an ultraportable itself.
 
Great engineering with a lot of (lightweight) glue applied everywhere. Quiet, of course, since the fans allow much higher temperatures inside the computer before they kick in. So, what if it fries itself faster than other machines ? Nobody is going to do any heavy work with it, it's a fashion item. It is supposed to be showed to others. No problem, as long as there are enough spare (and still faulty) parts for the replacement programs, right ?
 
As the repairability score goes up, the profitability score goes down ;).
Which is all that matters in Tim Cook's Apple. Maximum profits at any cost. The fact that this laptop becomes a part of the environmental waste if the keyboard fails after warranty shows how much Apple cares about the environment when profits come into the picture.
 
They don't hate Apple, the score is related to repairs - many other laptops and products also scored low due to it not being very user servicable. There is no conspiracy against Apple. It is a justified score, a lot of people have to shell out for the whole top or bottom case for an individual component.

Which component?

These are solid state electronics, the chance they go bad is very very low despite what Rossmann et all tells you.
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I'd say straw man anyway. For example, every other computer PCB is going to be multi-layer.

Of course, Rossmann fans.

Why don’t you do what he says and just ignore Apple and buy anything else?

If you believe him, why are you in an Apple exclusive website commenting Apple news?
 
From your post, you claim the single unit topcase for minor repairs is "smart" because it was like getting a new laptop.

Here is my problem: (1) what happens to the useable parts, including the battery? This is important both from a shareholder and environmental point of view. (2) what happens when the warranty expires? Our environment is suffering due to our culture of throw-away appliances. It is wasteful and irresponsible IMO to simply discard appliances (including computers) because it becomes more cost effective to buy new than to replace defective parts on an otherwise functional appliance. This throw away economy is a choice and a product of design. It is not necessary.

At the very least, Apple could make the battery replaceable (rather than glue it in) like it is in Lenovo's X1 Carbon, which is an ultraportable itself.

Right on all points.

I need to ask from te very most simplistic yo te same level of topic ... how do you recycle AA or AAA Batteries in your household? Are you aware of the direction/destination of those batteries intended for recycling?

Maybe it’s high time for governments to tax rebate computer and cellphone manufacturers (Dyspn and other appliance makers that use batteries) for the complete return and recycling of batteries from the consumer stage onward.

Maybe it’s high time Apple entice end users to bring in their faulty no longer working machines that use batteries for a swap or for recycling. Grant the end user a credit towards a future purchase ... significant enough for the a typical mind numb consumer to really consider this; say $100 minimum!

Apple began as a hippie like company and. This would align with that beginnings but it’s not like that anymore.

They state they care about the environment but you’ve highlighted a VERY obvious hole in that mythos. :)
 
but if you store it in a bag with other stuff it will ever so slightly flex which can cause an imprint of the keyboard on the screen over time and damage the anti-glare coating of the screen, etc.

And you know this to be true, how?
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Those silicone membranes will heat, warp, and the degrade. They'll also get sticky and wreck the keys

Again, how do you know this will happen?
 
Time will tell how long the plastic port will last as opposed to the metal one. I'll go to the store to see how the new speaker sound and hopefully the sound quality will remain the same or better. I'd like to see what the inside of the 15" looks like too.
 
Which component?

These are solid state electronics, the chance they go bad is very very low despite what Rossmann et all tells you.
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Of course, Rossmann fans.

Why don’t you do what he says and just ignore Apple and buy anything else?

If you believe him, why are you in an Apple exclusive website commenting Apple news?

On my post, it doesn't matter how long they last before they go bad - this is a repairability score, not a reliability score. If your CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, Keyboard or pretty much anything breaks, Apple won't individually repair said component, hence you will get a hefty bill. Looks like you deliberately misread my post?

On the post about Rossmann, I haven't seen it (I don't follow him), but could you provide some refutations to his claims?
 
Maybe it's just me, but being able to shave off 36g of metal from what was already a thin casing is both impressive and worrying. That's a decent amount of material to be removing, and only time will tell to see if screens are more easily damaged, or if people will need to pay huge amounts of money to replace the whole keyboard and battery assembly to repair a dent.
 
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Plastic ports and when the battery dies you have to also replace the keyboard and speakers too!! Forget it.. overpriced throw away junk. Poor design Apple very poor, but it’s brilliant for massively boosting your profits..
 
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