It’s the quality.
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Really? How would compare mbp 2016-17 with pre 2015 keyboards?
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2018 13-Inch MacBook Pro Teardown Finds Larger Battery, Redesigned Power Adapter, Tweaked Top Case and More
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Or the battery is bloated and pressing against something giving you the mad computer syndrome
The battery was replaced out of warranty (for free somehow) two years ago. I’ll still check it though. Thanks.
I should be tempted by this, but the terrible experience with the keyboards, 5K display from LG, et al. Just burned me too badly after spending $4K+
I’m happy to sit this out, I guess. Apple has turned me into a once-ever-3 or 4 years- upgrades now. I guess I learned I don’t really need the latestest, and the touchbar sucks as does the keyboard so what’s it worth to upgrade?
Kinda a shame, but that’s where I’m at.
I’m happy to sit this out, I guess. Apple has turned me into a once-ever-3 or 4 years- upgrades now. I guess I learned I don’t really need the latestest, and the touchbar sucks as does the keyboard so what’s it worth to upgrade?
Kinda a shame, but that’s where I’m at.
Or maybe the 2018 keyboard will be retrofitted to the 2016/2017 top case at some point.
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Lol. These are chinese assembled boards (not to bash chinese hand labor which is very respectable), but "components hand picked" who is he kidding? they are not making wine here. Inductors, mosfets, capacitors, PCB's, etc are only a piece of the cake, but let's not pretend a tidy engineered board will mask the flimsy keyboard, loose ports, unnecessary soldered components, heat blowing towards flex display components on several models. "Air paths unrestricted" (oh wow!), they've had heat issues with both AMD & NVIDIA chips before, they even failed to deliver proper thermals management with their almighty U.S. made 2013 Mac Pro, which design is supposed to tackle "airflow & heat dissipation", because there is nothing more pro than a well soldered non-upgradable shiny board, should be showcased at the erotic museum along Hefner's belongings.
Then we also had/have, Iphone 6 bending, 150 dollar new numpad keyboard bending. Magic mouse battery glued board, another disposable item based off battery luck, only charging port they had to squeeze in, they put it on the mouse's rear, how's that for porn?
Meanwhile I can disassemble my Lenovo into all its base components in under an hour. Yay for modular assembly!
He just made a comment about how beautiful the insides look. Relax. No need to get on the offensive and start pointing out the flaws in everything.
I agree that Macs are more reliable (per Consumer Reports). But I'm left pondering why having everything manufactured onto the main board increases reliability. Can you elaborate why that is for us non-computer engineering types?
My guess is that they removed the glowing logo in preparation for switching to an OLED screen. Previous MacBooks used the LED backlight to create the glowing logo - since OLED doesn’t need a backlight, no glowing logo (without extra LEDs which would be very in-Apple like and unnecessary).
While I appreciate and love the serviceability of my 2011 MBP, I do wholeheartedly appreciate the weight reduction and form factor of my 2016 MBP which means it is more portable which a laptop should be.
The reason many OEMs including Apple use a full piece of glass over the LCD screen is to add rigidity to the lid.
While I liked the glow of the Apple logo, I found it annoying that external light could come through that logo and shine through to the screen. If the screen is off and sunlight shines on the back of the lid, you can see the inverse of the Apple logo on the screen.
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Apple is not just calling up FoxConn and asking them to come up with the latest iPhone. As is on the back of the iPhone, iPhones are designed in California, by Apple. You may not like the choices they have made in their components or how they are connected, but it has long been noted that Apple puts serious thought into how their products look both externally and internally.
I disagree with your last sentence, and I think the new MBP is quite an improvement over the last, due in no small part to Intel’s new CPUs. The extra CPU cores, 32GB RAM option, increased SSD performance and 4TB option, and the improved keyboard, make it a solid refresh. Other niceties like True Tone, upgraded speakers and the T2 features are a bonus.
People have been done with Apple along the way for years. When Apple removed parallel ports, floppy disks, VGA, DVD drives, SCSI, FireWire, etc.—some we’re done with Apple. Two years ago, removing SD, HDMI, USB-A, MagSafe and the scissor keyboard all gave users who decide they need one or more of those features reason to be done with Apple. You can’t please all the people all the time.
But I’m in complete agreement with the idea that you shouldn’t buy something that isn’t the best fit for your business and/or personal requirements. If another company makes a better product, by all means buy it and put Apple in your rear view mirror.
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The updated Mac Pro should be interesting from a market acceptance standpoint. As Apple has stated, there’s not just one “pro”. Requirements and preferences vary across the spectrum of users who could be called pro. Your perfect Mac Pro could well be my nightmare.
My perfect Mac Pro might be dual socket Xeon SP, at least 512GB RAM, two PCIe slots, at least four M.2, four TB3, 10Gb Ethernet, and a bunch of other standard ports. That’s a very expensive, loud machine that could easily cost north of $50,000. But another user's ideal Mac Pro might pretty much just be the iMac Pro without the screen.
It won’t be easy to accommodate everyone’s requirements, and I expect some will be done with Apple after the release of the Mac Pro update next year.
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Perhaps even better quality then when made in the Usa after 25% import tax rules come in place.
It’s nice that they “silently” fixed the keyboard. Just as expected, Apple is not one to confirm it when they made a design mistake. That’s the job of iFixit once again. Luckily for Apple, a side benefit of preventing ingress of particles that could screw up your keyboard is reduced typing noise. They can highlight that while avoiding mentioning the real reason for doing it.
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After a few generations, Apple will build a computer that has no port whatsoever, supports wireless charging and everything else must be connected wirelessly. And everyone's travel pack will include several more routers for legacy support. Good for them.
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They can definitely blame ports for "possible to loose and disconnect", "more prone to error", "LEGACY", etc.
No worries. Solder everything in is OK. Having no option to revive after a crash is another. I would love to see how many people will queue outside Apple Store just want to do a hard reset on their computer, or iPhone.
That’s my experience with Apple Japan as well. I lived in Japan for a long time and Apple Japan always had fantastic service. The power supply in my Thunderbolt Display failed and the day after I called someone from Apple’s shipping partner was there to pick it up in a special box, it was sent in for repair, and arrived back fixed all within two days. It was much different than my experience with Dell Japan’s onsite tech support, in which they brought and installed the wrong color lid for my laptop and on the second repair the technician broke the keyboard during the repair.
I did not mean controller. I meant SSD. NAND SSD. Storage. Is Apple using RAID 0 SSD?
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Is Apple using RAID 0 SSD?
I'm interested to know if you have ever watched Louis Rossman's youtube videos on MacBook Pro internals where he usually slates them as being really badly made, bad soldering etc. (I am not keen on his presenting style) but your view seems so opposite to his....
Owners, please report on sound quality versus the 2016-17 models. I am waiting for these models to hit my country.
Sound is something that might just be a gentle push for me to sell my 2016 and get this 2018.
Sound is something that might just be a gentle push for me to sell my 2016 and get this 2018.