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2018 13-Inch MacBook Pro With Touch Bar Has Four Full-Speed Thunderbolt 3 Ports
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When will they release a high spec non touchbar version? I'm on a 2014 rMBP right now and I'm literally not going to be upgrdaing unless the price is not inflated by the touchbar, or the overall price becomes only slightly more than it was back in 2014.
Might be switching to windows for my computer anyway (personal preference). I'll never switch out my iPhone though.
Might be switching to windows for my computer anyway (personal preference). I'll never switch out my iPhone though.
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In your case it wouldn't have made a difference. The non-TB model still has 2 TB3 ports, and the TB model simply went from [2x half speed TB3 + 2x full speed TB3] to [4x full speed TB3].
Talk about solving the symptom, not the problem.
The problem is it's a terrible keyboard to type on for most pros, and it was designed on the ever thinner ethos of Apple which has put them in a thermal corner again.
Pros want speed, memory, storage, ports. It's a professional workflow. No one asked for MM thinner to improve their workflow.
Apple used to understand this under Jobs. Yes, make the Air and MacBook to be limited and thin as possible. Great market for that. Some Pros, particularly devs, will love the portability.
But the rest of the pros, the tastemakers, need the tools for productivity, not Apple's meaningless vanity metric.
The problem is it's a terrible keyboard to type on for most pros, and it was designed on the ever thinner ethos of Apple which has put them in a thermal corner again.
Pros want speed, memory, storage, ports. It's a professional workflow. No one asked for MM thinner to improve their workflow.
Apple used to understand this under Jobs. Yes, make the Air and MacBook to be limited and thin as possible. Great market for that. Some Pros, particularly devs, will love the portability.
But the rest of the pros, the tastemakers, need the tools for productivity, not Apple's meaningless vanity metric.
All of the Thunderbolt 3 ports on the previous 13-inch MacBook Pros were capable of the full 40 Gbit/s. That's the signaling rate of Thunderbolt 3. A PCIe 3.0 x4 connection is only 31 Gbit/s. Yes, this is twice the bandwidth of PCIe 3.0 x2, but it still isn't 40 Gbit/s. These controllers are also being fed 2x DisplayPort 1.2 main links weighing in at 17.28 Gbit/s apiece, so you could still easily max out a 40 Gbit/s Thunderbolt link even on the older models.
While the Coffee Lake-U processors do provide 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes, they are all coming from the PCH, which still only has what amounts to a PCIe 3.0 x4 connection to the CPU. The insanely fast SSD, both Thunderbolt controllers, and the Wi-Fi module all have to contend for that same bandwidth. So while it's nice that all four Thunderbolt ports are now first-class citizens, the PCIe connection to the CPU was already oversubscribed to begin with.
Seeing as Thunderbolt 3 ports *are* USB ports, you can have 4 USB ports and just ignore the Thunderbolt aspect. If you mean USB Type-A ports, then get over it and accept that you might need to buy a few new cables because the ones you require didn't come packed in with the devices you already own.
While the Coffee Lake-U processors do provide 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes, they are all coming from the PCH, which still only has what amounts to a PCIe 3.0 x4 connection to the CPU. The insanely fast SSD, both Thunderbolt controllers, and the Wi-Fi module all have to contend for that same bandwidth. So while it's nice that all four Thunderbolt ports are now first-class citizens, the PCIe connection to the CPU was already oversubscribed to begin with.
Seeing as Thunderbolt 3 ports *are* USB ports, you can have 4 USB ports and just ignore the Thunderbolt aspect. If you mean USB Type-A ports, then get over it and accept that you might need to buy a few new cables because the ones you require didn't come packed in with the devices you already own.
What took them so long?
These latest Intel chipsets now support the additional PCI/e lanes necessary to provide full bandwidth.
Oh the truth this post sings! Get ready for the hate. You dared to criticize the Apples. If I had but more upvotes to give lol.
The port speed difference did not affect USB performance; it was only a limitation when using Thunderbolt devices.
They make sticks with both USB-A and USB-C ports. Just bought a 64GB one on Amazon for under $25.
UuuHHH - where is the class action lawsuit. The CLICKBAIT reads:
APPLE deliberately throttles two ports on 13" MacPro already expensive Pro laptop.
2016 and 2017 models of the 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar could be configured with sixth- and seventh-generation Intel Core i5 and Core i7 processors, limiting full speeds to the two left-side Thunderbolt 3 ports, with reduced bandwidth on the right-side ports.
APPLE deliberately throttles two ports on 13" MacPro already expensive Pro laptop.
2016 and 2017 models of the 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar could be configured with sixth- and seventh-generation Intel Core i5 and Core i7 processors, limiting full speeds to the two left-side Thunderbolt 3 ports, with reduced bandwidth on the right-side ports.
Still too dang expensive. Give me the same computer with NO Touch Bar and let me keep $300 in my pocket.
Still without Thunderbolt 2 or USB 3 is the dealbreaker. At least it will be good news for the manufacturers of dongles and docking stations will continue to cream it in since Apple have become fixated with USB-C/Thunderbolt 3.
Intel...'nuff said!What took them so long?
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What device do you need to connect?
I am glad to hear they made this change and makes a whole lot of sense. Now I can decide if I want a 13" whereas before, I would have no choice but to get the 15".
