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The ship has sailed on USB type A.

Agreed... let's get over it. No need for dongles either for many peripherals since you can buy cheap – cheaper than many USB-C to USB-A adapters – USB-C to USB-A/B cables from, say, monoprice to replace existing USB-A/B cables. As for USB memory sticks, there are very affordable high capacity sticks now with both USB-C and USB-A plugs on them for flexibility. I have one USB-C to USB-A adapter for USB emergency purposes :)
 
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Still without Thunderbolt 2 or USB 3 is the dealbreaker. At least it will be good news for the manufacturers of dongles and docking stations will continue to cream it in since Apple have become fixated with USB-C/Thunderbolt 3.

Thunderbolt 3 is an upgrade to Thunderbolt 2. The same thing happened with FireWire. The industry changes. The Thunderbolt 2/Mini DisplayPort connector is not coming back. Neither is the USB A connector.
 
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Cool I just got mine two days ago but I have not tried those ports yet since my USB C to USB connectors have not arrived yet. Everything I own uses USB - much of a Pro issue.
[doublepost=1532026629][/doublepost]Well then it won’t matter to you because only USB-C devices can take advantage of this. Older USB will not run any faster than they did previously.
 
Now I‘d like to see as many vote ups as complaints back than please.

Great news! I figured it'd be the same as last year but this is good to hear, especially as I have a 13" ordered. ;)

Looking to order mine ASAP: quad core i5, 512GB storage and 16GB RAM. Delivery times are to Apple store end of month or August 3rd.

Anyone in Toronto or Ontario get less tha. 2wks shipment?
 
Like I always told my kid when he was younger, the wise philosopher Mick had some words of wisdom on this very subject:
You can't always get what you want
But if you try, sometimes you might find
You get what you need
In this case, I can get what I want. I bought the 2015 MBP ~1.5 years ago. Very happy with it.
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I’d rather have a single USB port than 4 thunderbolt ports.
At least USB-C to USB-A isn't such a complicated conversion. The even bigger issue is lack of HDMI, ethernet, and SD. You end up needing a dock for this, which is neither cheap nor reliable nor convenient, plus it's confusing af. That might change after several years, but for now, I have no need for USB-C and Thunderbolt, and nobody else I know does either.
 
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Like I always told my kid when he was younger, the wise philosopher Mick had some words of wisdom on this very subject:
You can't always get what you want
But if you try, sometimes you might find
You get what you need
Apple has created an entire empire on that.
 
4 thunderbolt ports and you couldn't put one USB A in there?

Have you ever bought an Apple computer? The last thing you should expect is for them to have mixed legacy ports on things unless it's absolutely necessary to function. Besides, everyone else is moving along to USB-C now so why would they? I read yesterday that Microsoft is doing an Xbox update this fall where even THOSE controllers are USB-C, and I fully expect the next iPhone to have a USB-C charger block as well.
 
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I tested mine out yesterday on all ports and was pleasantly surprised.

It's an awesome machine for $1800. I switched from mechanical drives to 3D nand SATA M.2 SSD sticks for external data, and my computing experience just evolved from 1999 to 2020--zippy and versatile!

WHat drives did you buy? I'm in the market myself for something faster than the spinning drive externals i have laying around.
 
This always is the best..... I dunno how many times with USB, i'm always having to wait from slower transfers over two USB actively connected ports where speeds are "halved."

More power to ya.

Isn’t that precisely the whole point? That usb C has the versatility to become whatever port you want it to be with the right adaptor.

I guess one USB-C port would still be slit up transfers depending how how many devices it shares with the milt-dongle u purchased.

Having four separate ports on the case, (well.. there is no way you can stuff that up), unless you attach a USB 4 port hub to one of those TB ports
 
The subject of the post and thread have always been something that has deterred me from considering the 13" Touch Bar model. It has never been the deal-breaker (which, to me, has been the T1 and now the T2 chips, and the BridgeOS living on an EFI partition that can't be removed lest one decide to brick their Mac), but it has always bothered me at times when I'd otherwise give the model some consideration.

Talk about solving the symptom, not the problem.

The problem is it's a terrible keyboard to type on for most pros, and it was designed on the ever thinner ethos of Apple which has put them in a thermal corner again.

Pros want speed, memory, storage, ports. It's a professional workflow. No one asked for MM thinner to improve their workflow.

Apple used to understand this under Jobs. Yes, make the Air and MacBook to be limited and thin as possible. Great market for that. Some Pros, particularly devs, will love the portability.

But the rest of the pros, the tastemakers, need the tools for productivity, not Apple's meaningless vanity metric.

Yeah, I can't really like your comment enough. It's completely true and there's no refuting it.

Can it drive 4 1024x768 15" Dell displays at once?

I would assume it could considering that's such a low resolution. But I could be wrong.
 
Like I always told my kid when he was younger, the wise philosopher Mick had some words of wisdom on this very subject:
You can't always get what you want
But if you try, sometimes you might find
You get what you need

If that were only true. What I NEED is a laptop that I can plug into the HDMI enabled equipment that every piece of video gear in the world uses without having to carry around a stupid dongle.
 
Cool I just got mine two days ago but I have not tried those ports yet since my USB C to USB connectors have not arrived yet. Everything I own uses USB - much of a Pro issue.
Why do you continue to use old USB 3? Seems antiquated
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If that were only true. What I NEED is a laptop that I can plug into the HDMI enabled equipment that every piece of video gear in the world uses without having to carry around a stupid dongle.

You don’t have to carry a dongle....
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In this case, I can get what I want. I bought the 2015 MBP ~1.5 years ago. Very happy with it.
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At least USB-C to USB-A isn't such a complicated conversion. The even bigger issue is lack of HDMI, ethernet, and SD. You end up needing a dock for this, which is neither cheap nor reliable nor convenient, plus it's confusing af. That might change after several years, but for now, I have no need for USB-C and Thunderbolt, and nobody else I know does either.

If a MacBook didn’t have UBC-C, I wouldn’t buy it. Legacy ports are precisely that
 
You don’t have to carry a dongle....


Sure, if I don't want to use pretty much ANY gear in 100% of the conference rooms in the world. The omission of HDMI natively is indefensible.
You don’t have to carry a dongle. I use an excellent dock that attaches to the MacBook, matches the color too. The beauty is that I can detach it when I’m at home with my USBC and TB3 accessories. But if I’m somewhere with legacy stuff, it’s all integrated. No need for a dongle
 
If that were only true. What I NEED is a laptop that I can plug into the HDMI enabled equipment that every piece of video gear in the world uses without having to carry around a stupid dongle.
You carry around an HDMI cable, yes? Or do you rely on the kindness of strangers? What is the difference between carrying around a regular HDMI cable and carrying around a USB-C to HDMI cable?
 
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