2019 Apple Watch: New Ceramic Casing, ECG Support for More Countries

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    In his wide-ranging research note today touching on Apple's product releases for 2019, Ming-Kuo provided a glimpse at upcoming AirPods, iPads, iPhones, displays and MacBook Pros. Regarding the Apple Watch, however, he had only a brief mention:
    Expanding Apple Watch ECG support to other countries is not particularly revealing. Apple has been working to expand access since its launch but regulations may hold up its acceptance in many countries.


    A new "ceramic casing design" is the more intriguing rumor. With the Apple Watch Series 2, Apple introduced "Edition" models that were made from ceramic priced starting at $1,299, which it continued offering when the Series 3 Apple Watches were announced. Apple discontinued the Edition models in 2018 with the Series 4 release. Current Apple Watch models do have a ceramic back, but this rumor opens the possibility for Apple to revisit a new high end ceramic model in 2019.

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  2. 19SK91 macrumors regular

    Aug 4, 2014
    I hope that means that there‘ll be no series 5 but only new casing options because it would really suck if ECG outside the US would be series 5 exclusive.
  3. martyjmclean, Feb 17, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2019

    martyjmclean macrumors 6502


    Jan 24, 2018
    Sydney, NSW, Australia
  4. Scooz macrumors 6502

    Apr 9, 2012
    Would be cool if they came up with something beyond the bug’s exoskeleton glossiness of the black steel model. I might buy it anyway though :oops:

    I wonder if ceramic would allow for some texture and color while providing improved roughness over the aluminum cases.
  5. Pepe4life macrumors 6502


    Nov 15, 2018
    If they only allow ECG in other countries on series 5, that would be the ultimate d!ck move
  6. Icaras macrumors 603


    Mar 18, 2008
    California, United States
  7. dragicon macrumors member

    Jan 12, 2014
    I really wish they would go to a round dial face instead of the square.
  8. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    After owning two ceramic Apple Watches and how they’re basically impossible to resell I don’t think I want another. I had so much trouble selling my Series 3 ceramic that I gave it to my dad instead. The ceramic finish was also very difficult to keep clean. Seemed that a simple wipe didn’t remove sweat marks instead require firm rubbing whereas now with the stainless steel Series 4 it’s very easy to clean with a cloth or sometimes a shirt.
  9. chabig macrumors 603

    Sep 6, 2002
    You can put a round face on the current Watches.
  10. Ricebucket macrumors member

    Jul 30, 2004
    I don't think there was any promise made to support ECG on series 4 outside the US. If you go to the foreign Apple websites, there's no mention of ECG. Zero. So I wouldn't be surprised if only series 5 has ECG support outside US.
    Plus, given the amount of time that has passed, might as well wait for a series 5.
  11. Nozuka macrumors 68020

    Jul 3, 2012
    Even apple can't be that stupid... the required hardware is clearly present.

    On the other hand.... with apple nothing is impossible.
  12. Applebot1 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 4, 2014
    When ECG gets through each countries regulations, then it will be activated.

    If the rumours about non-evasive glucose monitoring becomes reality; will be a game changer.
  13. Patriks7 macrumors 65816


    Oct 26, 2008
    But a totally expected move with the way things are going lately.
  14. Pragati55 macrumors member


    Dec 10, 2018
    Apple will release ECG app for other contries before the END of the april ✌️
  15. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    It won't happen. The reason why ECG is not approved outside the US has nothing to do with the technology used but rather to do with different rules and regulations on other countries. It is similar to Apple Pay. Apple needs to work with these countries to approve ECG.
  16. johnyslats macrumors 65816


    Mar 14, 2012
    Leeds, UK
    I fully expect to see ECG to be available to more countries in the coming months. The end of March marks 6 months post launch. If this functionality doesn’t extend beyond the US by then I’d argue that Apple isn’t working hard enough. Even with the ‘US only’ launch, the expectation was there that functionality would soon be coming to other markets
  17. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    Interesting if Apple reintroduces the ceramic edition, especially since it was discontinued with the Series 4. But starting at $1250 with for the ceramic model for the Series 3, it’s just generally too much for the consumer to want to spend _that_ much on a smart watch, and not when they all can complete the same watchOS capabilities, when most want to opt for the aluminum. If Apple does reintroduce the ceramic, I would like to see it at a lower price to make it more attractive, but I doubt that would happen.
  18. jezbd1997 macrumors 6502


    Jul 8, 2015
    Melbourne Australia
    They wouldn't do that. They announced it as a feature that can be opened up basically when/if regulations allow in different countries. I'm in Australia and would return my S4 straight away if they did this, but they wouldn't. Hoping Australia will be one of the next countries approved
  19. SethBoy macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2007
    I checked with my country's regulator which confirmed that no application was made by Apple.

    Same situation as Canada: https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/11/apple-watch-ecg-canada/

    It is all on Apple if they haven't even bothered applying
  20. KarimLeVallois macrumors 68020


    Feb 22, 2014
    I'd like to see the ceramic come back, it's a great material for a watch.
  21. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    It’s a great material, but is it practical at the price point that it once was? No, it wasn’t. Apple would have to re-strategize the ceramic if they wanted to be a higher seller, rather than starting at $1250, isn’t attractive. Although I do like the properties that ceramic offers in terms of scratch resistance, it’s more likely for a niche demographic.
  22. Kabeyun, Feb 18, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 18, 2019

    Kabeyun macrumors 68020


    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    It’s so easy to take pot shots at Apple, isn’t it? Way easier than, say, reading the article, where you’ll be reminded of this:
    It’s not Apple dis“allowing” anything. It’s the approval process in other countries that’s taking time. Let’s not get too indignant that an American company first rolled out a new feature to the American market.
  23. KarimLeVallois macrumors 68020


    Feb 22, 2014
    Totally agree! Apple have to revisit the whole pricing structure of the three materials to include this in the lineup in order to even be considered by most people. I personally would pick ceramic again over steel, but it would be hard justifying that price point and the depreciation once owned.
  24. triton100 macrumors 6502

    Dec 15, 2010
    How comes this min kuo guy has not been ‘taken out’ yet. He seems to be a hub of leaks for many years, yet nothing has been done to ‘keep him quiet’, even though he must be obtaining all of his info illegally from insider leaks.
  25. mrex macrumors 68040


    Jul 16, 2014
    The reason is that apple has done nothing to make it work. If there are no application left, it wont hapoen by itself.

    And that has nothing similar with apple pay. Many countries has their own nfc thing already - been years before apple pay - and banks are not interested in paying apple for apple pay.

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