It really would, but I don't think that will happen this year. Would love to be proved wrong.
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2019 Apple Watch: New Ceramic Casing, ECG Support for More Countries
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It really would, but I don't think that will happen this year. Would love to be proved wrong.
Tim cancelled ECG in other countries as he learned it would cost some money to make the applications
Apple isn't submitting the approvals. (see: Canada, Australia) So yes, we have the right to be angry at Apple for advertising a feature that doesn't exist. I'm surprised there hasn't been any lawsuits yet.
Apple hasn’t advertised ECG as being a feature anywhere besides the US afaik. I’m not sure there’s anything to file suit about.
My mistake, I misread your comment as a generalization that no consumer would get a ceramic Apple Watch. I agree, the vast majority of consumers go for the aluminum one.
Remember iPad (3rd gen), the first iPad with Retina display? Its cellular versions were dubbed iPad WiFi+4G because they supported LTE connectivity on select few bands used by AT&T and Verizon. Well I bought and used this model in the UK, it had the same "4G" marking on the box, but I was never told that even when LTE would get a roll-out in the UK it would not use those North American bands at all. To me this was quite misleading but I don't remember hearing about any kind of official complaint being made. Why I mention this - I see parallels to what you are saying but I don't think it is possible to hold Apple legally responsible unless they directly promised this feature in ads and in their stores in your country.
Here's an odd thing. I sprang for a ceramic Watch 3 and never really liked it because its high gloss finish made it look like it was a piece of cheap plastic. Now I have a Watch 4 with a space grey aluminum case and I like it a lot because its matte surface makes it look expensive. What's the point in owning a luxury product if it doesn't look luxurious?
I don't understand why they are not using Liquid Metal on Apple Watch. Yes Ceramics has its own set of issues, such as scratches and brittle. But it has much better Radio property than Aluminium. Stainless Steel keeps it clean and hard, but is awful at Radio, comparatively speaking. Aluminium Sits in between of both, while Liquid Metal gives you best of both world.
They could put some sort of layer on top of Ceramics to further protect it from Scratches and breaking. It could be Enhanced Sapphire coating.
They could put some sort of layer on top of Ceramics to further protect it from Scratches and breaking. It could be Enhanced Sapphire coating.
I still use the first generation Apple Watch (Generation 0 I guess), I'm thinking to upgrade a newer one, if ECG will take years available outside the US I wonder should I get Series 4 or Series 3?
Are there significant differences between those two generations, besides ECG?
Are there significant differences between those two generations, besides ECG?
Scratches on the ceramic?? Ceramic doesn't scratch easily at all, hence why I got one.
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I disagree. The grey ceramic looks great in sunlight, a bit like titanium because it's so polished.
Yes the screen size is much larger on the S4 and makes the device much more useable, sadly this seems to have come at the expense of battery life but I just charge it daily with 40% remaining.
Medical Device Regulatory Submissions are not as trivial as some would think and does depend on each country. There are often specific clinical trials that must be conducted, and the exact requirements are often not the same.
Having said that, the lack of an application is not the same as lack of effort. Often there are years of meetings prior to any application submission. Meetings to clarify what steps must be taken, what trials must be done, and to share data so as to get feedback prior to submitting any application. These meetings are confidential. Likewise, even after an application is submitted it is often confidential until either approved or rejected. This will vary by country, but many do not require regulatory agencies to comment on applications filed, just applications processed. Two different things.
So I highly doubt an official would disclose such information to an individual without specific right to know.
The white ceramic does show sweat marks a lot less. I had the white ceramic in Series 2 (there was no grey) and I had the grey ceramic Series 3. Definitely more noticeable sweat marks. Like grime and stuff a little more effort to clean especially after a workout.
I agree I love that the ceramic is basically indestructible.
I did try pricing less than 50%. Even then it’s still more expensive that a new Series 4 SS making it a hard sell. The cleaning problem is not really a negative experience. Just more effort on a daily basis since I workout everyday and I do sweat throughout the day so it tends to look disgusting after a day of use. But the hard to resell part is really a negative to me. Even the current Series 4 I have right now there is the ceramic part that is in the bottom. It’s disgusting after a day of wearing.
I probably have different sweat composition than you. Then I’d say you’re lucky. Mine really is oily and grimy after a day.
For me the Hermès comes with special faces and bands therefore more value. The Ceramic doesn’t looks that special to the regular person so the resell is tougher. In fact I’ve had people tell me mine looks like plastic.
So... what's your point? My point is that ECG is not a feature on phones sold overseas. It never was. And probably won't be for series 4.
Well my point, on this, is that you are wrong..... ECG is "a feature on phones sold overseas" if you buy your paired series 4 apple watch in the US.
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What? Read your own statement again... By overseas, I mean every country other than the US.
So do I. Can you please read my statement again and just accept it. I have a iPhone bought out of the US and a S4 apple watch bought in the US. I am, at the moment, out of the US and the ECG "feature" works just fine.
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Now you're just playing word games. You know that's not my point. Even if you didn't know that before and somehow misunderstood, you know now. Do you have any substantive to reply to my argument? I don't really care if your apple watch works or not and have no interest in continuing (or even starting) a conversation about that.
My experience is that my iPhone (bought overseas/out of the US) shows my Sinus Rhythm and tells me I do not have Atrial Fib. I can also send the chart to my Dr as a PDF if I choose. Is that substantive enough for you?
Again, as I have said, I don't care about your watch. That was not what I wanted to say in any of my posts. You're purposely ignoring my point and trying to divert the argument to something I have no interesting in talking about or even disagree about. So no, this is not a substantive reply to my argument.
We know that your watch has ECG. That's great. Now stop. Lots of people's watches have that, including mine. That's not what I'm trying to say. If you don't understand my argument, that's your problem.
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