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2019 iMac when?
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Apple doesn't have a deep need to launch iMacs during WWDC. At this point Apple has four operating systems to cover at WWDC ( macOS , iOS , tvOS , watchOS ). If there is absolutely nothing substantive to say about four operating system then there is something colossaly wrong with their implementation strategies. When there was only one or two OS then sure fill something of the rest of the keynote with some hadware if had to flush out the time. That isn't a problem at this point. If anything the large dog pony show they do is actually too long.
In past, there has been some new hardware component drops to the market not because of WWDC but far more due to CompuTex ( which is a big major general PC hardware focused convention. ). In years past Intel (with little competition) would queue up their desktop / laptop releases for late May/ early June so that there was fresh, 'bleeding edge' stuff to show at Computex. They could afford to sit and squat to relatively arbitrary (to the hardware development process ) deadline of a annual conference so to make a bigge marketing splash. WWDC typically follows a week or so after Computex (it is more so a secondary indicator if coupled to hardware introductions. )
At this point there is more competition and their fab timelines aren't as regular. Intel has a logjam now on their 14nm process that should start to clear in March-April timeframe (adding new capacity and should be online by then). There is little upside to Intel waiting if fab is ready to go. Neither for AMD ( waiting around for Intel fab act together is kind of looney. The lead they have for 2019 product is going to close over time. )
Furthermore, June-Sept is a highly dubious time for Apple to release new hardware ( which typically needs new OS additions to be complete). From June-Aug Apple should be far more focused on getting the bugs identified in their beta release of the yearly OS for late Sept-Early October. Not chasing down new hardware quirks but far more focused on the hardware they got for the new OS they are getting ready to release ( and wrapping up any 'loose ends' on the OS they are about to push into the "no new substantive features" status. ). New hardware and new software means have two moving targets to track. That is generally not going to lead to better stability for either subsystem. ( The increasing flakey releases by Apple over the last couple of years isn't particularly surprising. )
If the hardware just happens to finish at the same time (e.g., the major component suppliers are pushing them into that corner) then fine. they should try take measures to step out of that. But for Apple to "seek out" to deliberately push hardware into the next macOS beta window is at the very least dubious and probably a bad practice. November-April would be a better place to put more Mac product releases (and to do more of them. Not hit the snooze button for 3-6 years at a time. )
Picking WWDC as a release point is like a "broken analog clock". It is 'correct' about twice a day. On these forums from January to May it is increasingly throw out as something to attach just about anything non iPhone to as a 'safe bet' . Product xyz is important to Apple will attach it to WWDC because that is where important stuff goes... ... all the while completely ignoring that WWDC is a developers convention and the yearly OS updates are previewed there. (and now that there are many more of them. )
Apple built a multimillion dollar theater. They can do a dog and pony product intro with a major Internet broadcast any month they want to with a simple short stroll from their executive offices.
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Very well articulated. Agree 100%.
The notion of WWDC being a likely hardware release point is an outdated notion from a time gone by.
I find you one of the most insightful commentators on this site, but for the love of dog can you please stop using the expression 'dog and pony' show when talking about those events.... please, I beg you.
Rest assured, Apple will hold their own event. Whether its in April, September, or some other time.
Its precisely the reason they built that giant auditorium on their own campus.
I think we'll see the iMac refresh at WWDC available for purchase a few weeks later, and a preview of the so-called modular Mac Pro that will be set for pre-order around the same time but will begin shipping in the falls. If Apple is serious and they believe it'll great mass hype and if the drones are willing to bite on the typical Apple fodder, then Apple will need to begin manufacturing ahead of time to meet demand. Provided it isn't a DoA product.
Argg, why do people keep talking about WWDC? Apple has their own giant hi tech auditorium for announcing hardware now.
WWDC is a software event. They only announced hardware there for years because it was a convenient space. Now they have their own (better) space.
I’ll bet anyone here $100 they wont release major hardware at WWDC anymore.
That auditorium is for the small events, under 1000 seats, not for WWDC where they need over 5000
So Steve jobs Theater is for eventually March and September/October events
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"Apple has their own giant hi tech auditorium for announcing hardware now."
You are contradict yourself in the same comment , that is saying a lot that you dont believe in your own believing
‘major hardware’ = computers.
And, given the low priority traditional computers now have at apple, I would guess they would feel a 1000 person auditorium is just fine for any mac annoucements.
Dear, you said "Apple has their own giant hi tech auditorium for announcing hardware now."
So any hardware, than after few sentences you said major hardware...maybe tomorrow you will come around
macs are still loved by people that goes to WWDC...developers coders etc
And to present new imacs and the new mac pro is too low for an event even for the Steve Theatre
I hate 1 hour event, and i bet everyone who is going there hate it too...but WWDC soft+hardware for 2-2.5h is about love
So any hardware, than after few sentences you said major hardware...maybe tomorrow you will come around
macs are still loved by people that goes to WWDC...developers coders etc
And to present new imacs and the new mac pro is too low for an event even for the Steve Theatre
I hate 1 hour event, and i bet everyone who is going there hate it too...but WWDC soft+hardware for 2-2.5h is about love
Thats all great, my love. I just dont think they’ll use wwdc to announce macs anymore. Just my belief. So dont worry your pretty little head about it.
The good thing is, unlike so many other silly back-and-forth debates here on macrumors, we'll find out in the next 5 months or so if I'm right. If I'm wrong, you can rain down all the 'I told you so's' you want on me and I'll just have to take it
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My guess is they want to release it as soon as it's ready. They'll send them out to reviewers with an embargo.
Hey guys, I really want to buy an Mac this year.
Do you guys really think they will add a i9 9900k to the iMac? I doubt it, but that CPU would be perfect for my needs.
I use Cubase 10 alot with many sample libaries. I think any kind of iMac Pro or Mac Pro 7,1 would be an overkill for audio. Best would be the 2019 iMac.
Do you guys really think they will add a i9 9900k to the iMac? I doubt it, but that CPU would be perfect for my needs.
I use Cubase 10 alot with many sample libaries. I think any kind of iMac Pro or Mac Pro 7,1 would be an overkill for audio. Best would be the 2019 iMac.
depends. if you needed it then its fine, keep it. If you could wait then its better to wait as you can then decide if you want the new one or get the old one discounted.
But you might be waiting a while so it really is up to you.
I'm waiting but some people don't. The saying is - if you need it then get it, if you don't then wait. IT really IS that simple