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2019 iPhones Could Have Smaller Notch as Apple 'Looking Into' Combining Face ID and Front Camera
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He didn't foil anything. He just broke his pen on purpose. Anyone can do that with anything.
Exactly. I call "fake news" on this. Why would Apple take time exploring ways to reduce the notch when the notch is fine as it is?
Interesting. How do you know this?
So, you'll wait for the next 5-10 years?
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Why would I stop defending something that allows for such a great design that the X has? I like to defend things that are awesome.
See why they want the notch to be clearly and emphatically visible?
People would not instantly recognize that's the flagship iPhone right there.
Where would the delight be then?
First, it’s not news. It’s my opinion. Thus why I sad imo. So how can it be fake?
And to the second comment. Do you own one? Probably not. Are you complaining, yes.
Point accomplished.
Decisions for a final product are not necessarily "good design decisions".
It's semantics, but I'm arguing that Apple made poor decisions with the camera bump and notch. (I'll take out "design" here for clarity.) For comparison, the antennae bands in the 4 ,5,5s were elegant design decisions: "how do we have antennae in an aluminum wrapped phone? And make it look good?" That design question was answered elegantly.
A design decision would have been from the beginning: "lets put a notch in there to differentiate it. -or- "lets have a full screen stretch (no notch)."
If Apple didn't want a notch to begin with, then they should have figured out a way to have a full screen. The notch was a concessionary failure by Apple to answer their design question: "how do we differentiate our phones?" (If that even what they were thinking 3 years ago.)
Apple said they've been working on this for 3 years..... that would seem to be enough time to solve their design challenges.
All this doesn't matter if Apple simply did not care to address whether there's a notch or not, or whether there's a camera bump or not. And they MIGHT not have even cared "how to differentiate our phones".
This is exactly what I, and many others using iPhone 7 or earlier, have in mind. Im not switching away from iPhone but the X is ....it can be so much better.
1. The notch, it doesn't have to be there. Even if portrait mode doesn't bother you, you are losing details watching 18:9 in landscape
2. Control center: Apple is so late to the game of gestures. In 2010, Activator from Cydia allowed you to swipe for example, from bottom left for notifications, bottom center for home button, bottom right for control center
Top right for sleep button (bye bye hardware buttons)
As opposed to the inaccessible control center in the top right corner right now
3. I have only 2 issues with the X but theyre significant to the user experience
it's good and bad at the same time. Sure they could have designed it without a notch... but then it would look like all the other phones out there and it wouldn't be Apple. For branding purposes everyone knows when it's an iphone, with the home button and now the notch
Ok, how would you solve it? I don’t want bezels like the ones on Galaxy and I don’t want an asymmetrical design.
Dude, nothing has to be there, everything is a design decision. But some people prefer this design decision to the alternative, which is - with the current state of technology - either bezels or non-symmetry. You don’t have to agree with the choice Apple made - perhaps you prefer bezels - but claiming that the notch doesn’t have to be there, like Apple just put it there by mistake, is very subjective. If you want this design decision, one that I and many others prefer to all alternatives, then yes, the notch has to be there. If you don’t, well just say that you don’t like this design and deal with it.
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It's actually not. Check out the example below:
The top image is the original one I posted earlier. The bottom image is using a screen capture of a video I was playing back on my phone.
Keep in mind that this is for 16:9 video, which is the aspect ratio that the iPhone captures, as well as all of the HD television standards. If you happened to see thinner bars on the side, then my guess is that you were watching a movie that had a wider aspect ratio (there are a handful of different film aspect ratios, including 16:9). With a wider ratio you would see thinner bars on the side, however you probably didn't notice that there were now thicker bars on the top and bottom.
I would have provided visual evidence of that, but I've just learned that iOS doesn't allow you to screen capture copyrighted material during playback.
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You can't really declare that unless you provide a better alternative. In the case of the bump, the alternative was likely just making the rest of the casing thicker to match. As someone who didn't use to put my phone in a case, I probably would have preferred that. However, for the notch, what is your alternative?
How, if the technology doesn't allow for it?
Key word highlighted. That's pure speculation on your part without any evidence to substantiate it. I realize that's what we do on these type of forums, but you can't just arbitrarily say it seems like something should have happened "just because."
I already adressed that, that is a mistake. I can say it again, if you want...
We already have in-screen home button and in-screen fingerprint sensor. It's just a matter of time until all the other sensors are in-screen then we'll realize how ugly and primitive the notch is. Bigger notch looks like receding hairline while smaller notch looks like pee pee.
This is perfect, queue a whole new round of Jony saying "Its the thinnest notch we've ever designed!".
lol good one... "the first ever"... "The thinnest ever". I see them doing that with the iMac this year... thinnest iMac yet, with no bezels... That would be a slap in the face. Cash in on 2017 models and give people a reason to buy in 2018, I hope not
So, what's that supposed to mean.
I said they still are, wether or not they have their 'roots' in Steve jobs era is irrelevant.
Totally relevant. Look at what they design now: humps on iPhones cases, lightning ports badly located in iPencils and mouses / keyboards, gimmicky touchbars on MacBook Pros, opposing buttons that cause you to accidentally turn off your iPhone, no earphone jacks, no ports but loads of dongles, and $1400 iPhones with notches. Not to mention glitchy software and Throttlegate.
Don't forget,here were plenty of turds in jobs era.
Software and throttle gate is not design.
Keyboard has the same design, but it works differently.
No problem with switching off my iPhone.
You can still use a wired headphone.
I don't really need many ports, mostly wireless.
The hump doesn't bother me, but I agree, make it a bit thicker without the hump.
Apple sells more and more every year, so all those people are wrong, design wise they are still better than
others.
Can't say you are wrong in most cases.
But, I do tend to believe Mac users are overall better educated/less like followers, mind you, this statement doesn't include iGadgets.
That’s just it - the hoards are following us original Mac users who helped establish Apple because we paid top dollar for quality products. But we’re left stranded with no alternative but to hope Apple will deign to waste its time and money providing us with actual useable, powerful computers. Methinks that game is coming to some sort of end. But maybe they’ll come out with a good modular Mac Pro - they said they would... ?
Yes it can "because"It's actually not. Check out the example below:
The top image is the original one I posted earlier. The bottom image is using a screen capture of a video I was playing back on my phone.
Keep in mind that this is for 16:9 video, which is the aspect ratio that the iPhone captures, as well as all of the HD television standards. If you happened to see thinner bars on the side, then my guess is that you were watching a movie that had a wider aspect ratio (there are a handful of different film aspect ratios, including 16:9). With a wider ratio you would see thinner bars on the side, however you probably didn't notice that there were now thicker bars on the top and bottom.
I would have provided visual evidence of that, but I've just learned that iOS doesn't allow you to screen capture copyrighted material during playback.
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You can't really declare that unless you provide a better alternative. In the case of the bump, the alternative was likely just making the rest of the casing thicker to match. As someone who didn't use to put my phone in a case, I probably would have preferred that. However, for the notch, what is your alternative?
How, if the technology doesn't allow for it?
Key word highlighted. That's pure speculation on your part without any evidence to substantiate it. I realize that's what we do on these type of forums, but you can't just arbitrarily say it seems like something should have happened "just because."
(no I get it)A thicker phone could have taken care of the camera bump. But thinness overrode the bump, so there we have it (I remember that patent/product for the side by side lense that could get he same focusing as current cameras but in a thinner envelope. That would have been good to see.)
The notch could have disappeared with a matching band at the bottom of the phone ( a la galaxy 8). Or a matching notch for the gesture area at the bottom. Or that really nice render from a few months ago that hid the notch with software dark part of screen.
I don't mind the notch. It does disappear with use. I just don't think that Apple wanted it to be there if they're going to shrink it this coming year. It would be an admission of technology limitations marring the design... instead of the technology limitations being hidden away by elegant design. (Which the camera bump is not an elegant solution, nor is the notch.)
I refer again to the antennae bands of the 4-5s as elegant design solution: nobody ever talks about them because they are a seamless part of the overall design. The challenge was to get reception with aluminum wrap, which they succeeded splendidly well.
The choice of material in the jet black 7 was a pretty good design success with the choice of material. It hid the antennae bands quite well. Challenge: "how to hide the bands". Elegant solution: choice of that jet black material.
Call me beta tester all day if you wish. I am fully enjoying my iPhone X and the Face ID at the moment. And no, I don't spend my life waiting for stuff to get perfect (they never do) as 2 years from now there would be another new technology first presented same as Face ID this year, meaning your so called "beta testing" all over again.
But you feel free to wait several decades for the perfect device and watch us enjoy using the current ones.
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Bingo.
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The problem with your example is that Apple was, in fact, heavily criticized over the antenna lines on the iPhone 4. Steve Jobs even references this in his keynote because an iPhone 4 was leaked early. He referred to people who said “this doesn’t seem like Apple.” Go back and watch it. And by marking the antennas so obviously helped fuel the ridiculous antenna attenuation debacle during the iPhone 4’s early days. What was missing from the iPhone X unveiling was a Jobs-style pitch as to why the notch is, in fact, brilliant design. Absolutely every available space on the front of the phone contains display rather than compromising with bezels or having ridiculous embedded speakers and sensors.
I appreciate a good debate, but aesthetics are purely a personal opinion, not fact. Time is the great decider on aesthetics, as is the case with the iPhone 4. And aesthetics are only one tiny part of design.
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But Apple DID want a notch. When did they say otherwise? The shipped product is evidence that this was what they wanted to do.
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Amen. In what world does technology stand still and not change? Even iPhones and computers from years ago receive software updates. Does that mean the device and software is only out of beta once Apple stops supporting it?