What kind of logic is that? Is there a rule that prevents one from quoting first page posts if the thread has a certain number of pages? Ridiculous. If don't want to be quoted then don't post in an open forum.
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2019 iPhones Could Have Smaller Notch as Apple 'Looking Into' Combining Face ID and Front Camera
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What kind of logic is that? Is there a rule that prevents one from quoting first page posts if the thread has a certain number of pages? Ridiculous. If don't want to be quoted then don't post in an open forum.
I don't mind being quoted. However, here are reasons why:
1. User has explained his/her point previously. Quoting will just be a repeat of already done discussion
2. User might not be in the land of the living (forum wise)
3. Most active discussions are always at the end of the thread.
Now, this will be my last post regarding this as we have derailed enough.
What’s puzzling is if the hardware was designed like that pic essentially killing the notch the bezel is still smaller than anything Apple has down before in the iPhone.
Mentioning Bezel in the special event presentation would not be needed.
Screen real estate is determined by resolution not physical size. And considering the much needed boost giving in the iPhone X there is hardly any resolution lost at all by ridding the notch. So what are you going on about?
4mm in physical size is barely noticeable at all.
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Bravo!!
Can anyone with an iPhone X please confirm any specific Accessibility options or features that utilize the TrueDepth camera system please?!!
I think a better enaolgy would be: I have a two storey house and a one storey garage yet I have 2 cars. I could implement a rising two storey garage on an elevator but I don’t have one. Does that make me less resourceful vs parking one car in the driveway? Less efficient? Bleh nvm.
Well you can't get to the better version without getting through the first version. People are getting the benefit of the facial recognition now. I use it everyday all the time.
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Ha you think Apple didn't consider this and that you are smarter than all those other people who have spent years building this stuff and designing actual hardware and software.It's always great to work with know-it-alls.
No, I think Apple nailed the design. That's why this thread exists.... and the dozens before it... all saying how great the notch is and how smart and elegant a design choice it was. We can only hope "improving my sarcasm detection" was a 2018 new years resolution for you.
Ah, yes. The tick-tock cycle that came to an end in 2015? After the 6S, we got another tick with the 7, and a tick and a tock with the iPhone 8 and iPhone X. Apple is becoming unpredictable.
Problem is Apple is still using USB 2 speeds on Lighting Cable and I have no idea why. iPhone X at the very least should’ve supported USB-C 3.1 speeds allowing for power management and cable charging as well. There is hardly any noticeable benefit using wireless charging vs cable in terms of speed of charge. This was featured two months ago on macrumors front page. It’s attrocious. Is Apple saying the future to come is still going to use USB A cable to lightning cables?!
Apple internally your teams need to communicate more and get with the F program. Ports and data speeds should be in line with one another across your devices.
To you, maybe.
Guess what?
Different people are bothered by different things.
For example, I'm bothered when someone arrogantly claims that someone they don't know and have never met did or didn't do something without one shred of evidence to back up that claim. Other people may not be bothered by such a thing.
I'm a visual person so I can block it out partially but I can still see it. It becomes super obvious when you are multitasking with light background because the cutout makes it so awful. Dark pages/apps get away with it better.
So yeah, that is why I am not getting it, it just bothers me there and I'm not paying that much for a product that I'm not happy with and I will certainly not pay that amount to "get used to it" kinda thing. Apple missed a train on this one for me.
In the past I used to chase the technology more but now I just don't care and I buy when it makes sense. iPhone X doesn't make any sense to me right now. I do hope that they will solve these design flaws as I can't hold onto my iPhone 6 for too long. Probably 2 years max I guess
Umm. Your second sentence of point one assumes that all potential ideas to rebuttal are exhaustive by everyone.
Point 3 assumes that new rebuttals or conversations haven’t changed course entirely different from the first few pages.
No reply required but just some food for thought.
First you say you're never buying a phone with a notch, then in the next sentence you say that you KNOWINGLY bought a phone with a notch and returned it the next day. I'm going to call you out as being untruthful here. You've probably never even held the phone.
The longer I own the iPhone X, the more I “get” the choices Apple made here. The “notch” is not so much about cutting out the screen, but rather extending the screen into the corners and filling all available space on either side of the sensors and speaker. This is while lifting the status bar information out of the main part of the display to make room for more content.
The various mockups that attempt to create a full-width bar across the top either through software or hardware, ignore how asymmetrical this make the display relative to the bottom of the display. Having four rounded corners equidistant from the edge of the hardware looks much more balanced than every mock-up I have seen that, essentially, makes the device appear to have a larger bezel on the top. It is an ugly choice akin to the bizarre LG displays that Apple has been selling since the discontinuation of the Thunderbolt Display.
I think where the notch is perceived as cutting in to the display is when it is compared directly to the iPhone plus models, but a better comparison is to the regular non-plus variants. Price is the only reason to make the comparison to the plus models, but I think doing so misses the point that this is a new, standalone model that strikes out in a new direction.
The various mockups that attempt to create a full-width bar across the top either through software or hardware, ignore how asymmetrical this make the display relative to the bottom of the display. Having four rounded corners equidistant from the edge of the hardware looks much more balanced than every mock-up I have seen that, essentially, makes the device appear to have a larger bezel on the top. It is an ugly choice akin to the bizarre LG displays that Apple has been selling since the discontinuation of the Thunderbolt Display.
I think where the notch is perceived as cutting in to the display is when it is compared directly to the iPhone plus models, but a better comparison is to the regular non-plus variants. Price is the only reason to make the comparison to the plus models, but I think doing so misses the point that this is a new, standalone model that strikes out in a new direction.
Every time Apple comes with something new.... every time.... no matter how good it is, how it works - there is always someone with “beta testers” comment.
Nothing.... nothing about X is beta. This is just envy or spite.
For consideration:
EXACTLY. Set an iphone 8 next to an iphone X, and see how much more display is added by not only removing the home button and the bezel around it, but also creating a partial, rather than full bezel, for the camera/speaker etc. Apple has created more screen space, not less, by extending the screen into the corners around the cameras, sensors and speakers.
What in particular needs to be fixed? FaceID may be slightly slower than TouchID, but so far it hasn’t failed me once. I’m pretty used to the notch now, it’s not ideal, but I can definitely live with it. I’m happy with my X. In the past I always waited for the ‘S’ model, but I knew plenty of people who were very happy with their iPhone 4, 5 and 6 while I waited to the following year for the “improved” version. In 2011, I waited for the 4s with Siri which I rarely use today. I liked the camera upgrade to 1080p. In 2013, I waited for the 5s with TouchID, which wasn’t as reliable/fast as version 2 of TouchID on my 6s. Actually, I bought it in March 2014. I was considering waiting for the iPhone 6 and it’s rumored larger display. I decided not to wait just in case it was “buggy”. LOL. In 2015, I waited for the 6s which had the improved TouchID as well as 3D Touch which just like Siri I rarely use. Only time is with Shazam.
My point is the X is a fine smartphone, maybe not worth the price, but nonetheless a fine smartphone. The release/launch of the X was definitely less “eventful” than the 4 (antennagate), 5 (scratchgate) and 6 (bendgate). Okay, maybe slowsalesgate, but that’s just a byproduct of the high prices that may be corrected by Apple by the next release.
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It really isn't. Stop assuming people are lying--and worse, accusing them of it--because they don't agree with you.
It's not hard to be a decent, open-minded person. Really.
There is a lot of people here that have spread a lot of hate of the X that clearly have never used one, or haven't used one for any length of time. It has nothing to do with being open minded. Moving to a new phone and phone design requires being open to new things. Willing to be open to change ironically requires being open mined...
But have you ever said “I’m so happy I have to the extra screen space around the notch”?
That's a cute platitude, but it quite literally (and conveniently) ignores everything I already said.
I have no reason to justify my purchase because I buy every iPhone.Which is exactly what someone would say who has an iPhone X (justification for the purchase)
Apple release iPhone with notch - those bought it say you can't even notice the notch is there. What notch, said one guy.
Apple releases iPhone without notch - Same guy says, that notch was so noticeable. I am glad apple got rid of it. Insert random text about Jony Ive is back and the notch wouldn't have happened under Steve Jobs!
That out of the way, I only notice it in landscape, which is only a fraction of the time. But most of the time in landscape I don’t notice it because I’m watching a video. And for a lot of video that isn’t 21:9 or whatever (like some movies), I don’t like making it full screen. Why? It’s not the notch—it’s the fact that the top and bottom of 16:9 video gets cut off, so for most video it’s basically the same or maybe slightly bigger than the 4.7” size.
I think I tried watching Wonder Woman or something on it that fit better and the notch was only mildly annoying. The thing about wide aspect ratio movies is that they rarely place something important to the scene at the edge so that it can be scaled down for safe zones on older devices. You notice it more once you switch to that zoom mode, but it eventually blurs out like a blind spot. Only on smash cuts from darker to lighter backgrounds does it come back into my mind.
Fortunately I rarely watch movies on my iPhone, but use YouTube and for that aspect ratio it’s outside the margin and invisible. I will say that it feels really weird when browsing websites in landscape but I don’t think this aspect ratio works well for that anyway because most CSS breakpoints pull it too wide which leaves a slim content area for photos and text. It’s not something I do unless a website is being weird with their scaling or something is going off the side because their webdev is a CSS idiot. Landscape web is much better on a Plus or even better, an iPad. It’s one of the very few things I liked about my old Plus and something that should be better on this rumored Plus X or whatever.
