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I wasn't born yesterday so yes I am. It's external then internal, external, internal. The notch is clearly an either year upgrade. It's an internal component that is almost yearly upgraded (camera's) yet does have an external aspect to it. Most recent example of fixing an undesirable aspect would be the 2016 to 2017 MBP keyboard.
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Kind of goes to show that even in their own app design, the ears are an undesirable design aspect.
Wasn’t that the point I just made? Not sure what you mean by “goes to show”.
 
I'm never buying a phone with a notch. Come on Apple, you can do better than this!! (Or can they?!)

Glad I saved the receipt for my X, that went back to the store the next day.

Yet you DID buy a phone with a notch. Returned after one day. Couldn't have SEEN that notch instore before buying it? Methinks you protest too much, or NEVER had one but felt the need to chime in
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Personally I never notice the notch, but I thought it would be interesting if they moved the notch to the bottom and double it up as a home button.

Then the top of your screen would be edgeless

Turn the phone upside down then, same result
 
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It's not the same as before when apple removed Firewall or Floppy drives. They were virtually dead anyway.

USB ports are in everything with virtually everything now having a USB connector. The iPhone is a perfect example. If they were that drive all the iPhones would be USB-C. The Apple Watch would charge via USB-C. They don't, they use normal USB. Apple should have used USB-C and USB on their MacBook Pro's. 2 USB, 1 USB-C. Then slowly reduce the USB ports. 1 USB 2 USB-C then eventually just USB-C. Instead they annoyed the hell out of the Pro users!

No, if they keep even 1 normal usb port, it will sliw down development of usb-c hardware. Apple should have shipped the iphone x with a usb-c lightning cable. But i still agree on them going all-in on usb-c with the mac. In 1 year time, you will not miss the regular usb on the mac anymore. For now, i agree it is inconvenient, but necessary for transformation to the usb-c standard. If they made one with just one regular usb port, transformation would be delayed, and there would be demand for 2 regular usb ports instead of 1, hmm why not 3? why even support usb-c anyway? There are just a few products that support it available, etc, etc.
The other brands for pc’ s en laptop, are just waiting for enough usb-c support, and will drop regular usb ports, when there are enough products that use usb-c. Which will be plenty in the future, because of the choice apple made.
So in other words : let apple do the dirty work.
 
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Samsung with no notch and an edgeless design beats this notch-and-edge crap Apple is apparently doubling-down on.
 
No, if they keep even 1 normal usb port, it will sliw down development of usb-c hardware. Apple should have shipped the iphone x with a usb-c lightning cable. But i still agree on them going all-in on usb-c with the mac. In 1 year time, you will not miss the regular usb on the mac anymore. For now, i agree it is inconvenient, but necessary for transformation to the usb-c standard. If they made one with just one regular usb port, transformation would be delayed, and there would be demand for 2 regular usb ports instead of 1, hmm why not 3? why even support usb-c anyway? There are just a few products that support it available, etc, etc.
The other brands for pc’ s en laptop, are just waiting for enough usb-c support, and will drop regular usb ports, when there are enough products that use usb-c. Which will be plenty in the future, because of the choice apple made.
So in other words : let apple do the dirty work.

Yes, Apple are that confident, USB-C will take over the world. Their iPhone X. The pinnacle of phone technology, the infamous notch feature, sensors, FaceID, it's got everything.

Including a standard USB cable! To match the dongle for the latest Macbook Pro you purchased!
 
Oooh, I not only accept but fully embrace The Notch - I just want it to grow.
It is such a specific, outstanding Apple-characteristic - now that they copied every design from their imitators. Distracting all attention from the protruding camera...
 
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The notch is such a non issue. The phone looks better than the rest of the competition imo.

Those that are still complaining about the notch either don’t own the phone or never even used one.

I agree, but still smaller notch > notch.
 
The notch will go down in history with the following Apple designs.
Whoever approved the notch must have had some involvement with these designs.

- A mouse which has to be charged upside down
- A iPhone case with a built in battery
- A pen that has to be charged via a lightning connector
- An iPhone 5C case with holes which looks ridiculous
- A mouse that looks like a hockey puck

Apple do some great designs but when they get it wrong, they get it seriously wrong!

Fast forward a few years when the iPhone X3 is out and everyone will go on about how bad that bloomin notch was on the iPhone X.

Quote this in 3 years time if you must :)

I am not a designer but I have designed things in the past. Here is one example.

True story.
I had a Nintendo Gameboy which I absolutely loved. I also had a game and watch as well. I drew a side, top and bottom drawing of a device like the gameboy, so it had the joypad and 2 buttons, start and select on the other side, which folded in half like the game and watch. I sent it about 1988/89. I also drew another design which turned the gameboy joypad into a joystick. That was about the same time.

I have the letter from Nintendo acknowledging and thanking me for the design. I must have been about 12 at the time.

Fast forward a few years and they release a Nintendo DS! I always wondered if my drawing inspired them in some way. Or if my design just ended up in a bin somewhere. Either way, true story :)
 
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The notch will go down in history with the following Apple designs.
Whoever approved the notch must have had some involvement with these designs.

- A mouse which has to be charged upside down
- A iPhone case with a built in battery
- A pen that has to be charged via a lightning connector
- An iPhone 5C case with holes which looks ridiculous
- A mouse that looks like a hockey puck

Apple do some great designs but when they get it wrong, they get it seriously wrong!

Fast forward a few years when the iPhone X3 is out and everyone will go on about how bad that bloomin notch was on the iPhone X.

Quote this in 3 years time if you must :)

- A mouse which has to be charged upside down

Charging it once a month makes this a non-issue. Even if you forget, it's 2 minutes charging for 9 hours usage. Complete non issue.

- A iPhone case with a built in battery

What's wrong with that?

- A pen that has to be charged via a lightning connector

Again, what's wrong with that?

- An iPhone 5C case with holes which looks ridiculous

I think they were kinda quirky. Looked horrible in photos but not so bad in the flesh.

- A mouse that looks like a hockey puck

Now that's a valid point but still, you had to go back 20 years for that one.
 
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- A mouse which has to be charged upside down

Charging it once a month makes this a non-issue. Even if you forget, it's 2 minutes charging for 9 hours usage. Complete non issue.

You forget to charge it. You need to use the mouse. Oh, you can't while it's charging. Because it charges via the bottom! That is not a great design!

- A iPhone case with a built in battery

What's wrong with that? It's a case with a lump! Hunchback would have loved it!

- A pen that has to be charged via a lightning connector

Again, what's wrong with that? How would you use the iPad with the pen sticking out the bottom? You would end up puncturing your groin area!

- An iPhone 5C case with holes which looks ridiculous

I think they were kinda quirky. Looked horrible in photos but not so bad in the flesh. They showed bits of text and logo. A very poor design!

- A mouse that looks like a hockey puck

Now that's a valid point but still, you had to go back 20 years for that one.
 
The notch will go down in history with the following Apple designs.
Whoever approved the notch must have had some involvement with these designs.
- A mouse which has to be charged upside down
- A iPhone case with a built in battery
- A pen that has to be charged via a lightning connector
- An iPhone 5C case with holes which looks ridiculous
- A mouse that looks like a hockey puck
Quote this in 3 years time if you must :)
+ bothering MacBook users with multiple incompatible MagSafe standards (with associated mini-dongle converting metallic plugs) before the magic transition to non-MagSafe at all.
 
You forget to charge it. You need to use the mouse. Oh, you can't while it's charging. Because it charges via the bottom! That is not a great design!

You don't have to use it while it's charging, because it only needs charging once a month. And if you forget, can't you wait literally 2 minutes?

It's a case with a lump! Hunchback would have loved it!

Right, and? Have you actually seen one? They don't look bad at all IRL.

How would you use the iPad with the pen sticking out the bottom? You would end up puncturing your groin area!

You don't have to charge it via the iPad, but if you're on the go and don't have your charging cable, it's a good backup.

They showed bits of text and logo. A very poor design!

Fair enough.
 
+ bothering MacBook users with multiple incompatible MagSafe standards (with associated mini-dongle converting metallic plugs) before the magic transition to non-MagSafe at all.
I worked repairing laptops for a few years before at Europe's largest laptop repair centre and the most common faults were either cracked screens or damaged DC sockets. MagSafe was a superb design. It was brilliant!

Removing it was the dumbest thing!
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You forget to charge it. You need to use the mouse. Oh, you can't while it's charging. Because it charges via the bottom! That is not a great design!

You don't have to use it while it's charging, because it only needs charging once a month. And if you forget, can't you wait literally 2 minutes?

It's a case with a lump! Hunchback would have loved it!

Right, and? Have you actually seen one? They don't look bad at all IRL.

How would you use the iPad with the pen sticking out the bottom? You would end up puncturing your groin area!

You don't have to charge it via the iPad, but if you're on the go and don't have your charging cable, it's a good backup.

They showed bits of text and logo. A very poor design!

Fair enough.

My boss wants the project done now! Not 2 mins later! Now! Sorry, I have to wait till my battery charges!

Yes, it's even worse than the photos!

Yes, so you just puncture your groin while on the go! Great design! :)
 
I worked repairing laptops for a few years before at Europe's largest laptop repair centre and the most common faults were either cracked screens or damaged DC sockets. MagSafe was a superb design. It was brilliant!

Removing it was the dumbest thing!
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My boss wants the project done now! Not 2 mins later! Now! Sorry, I have to wait till my battery charges!

Yes, it's even worse than the photos!

Yes, so you just puncture your groin while on the go! Great design!

"My boss wants the project done now! Not 2 mins later! Now! Sorry, I have to wait till my battery charges!"

Your fault for not charging the mouse when you got the many reminders of a low battery. And I'm sure your boss will wait 2 minutes, you're really pushing the boat out with your 'real world' scenario..

"Yes, it's even worse than the photos!"

Not in my opinion. It looks and feels quite nice.

"Yes, so you just puncture your groin while on the go! Great design!"

Did you even read what I wrote? Seemingly not.
 
Thank God Jonny is back at the helm. I’ve got no doubt he hates this stupid notch as much as the rest of us.

Do you seriously believe that Ive somehow wasn't involved in or leading the discussion/decision making of the X's design?
 
"My boss wants the project done now! Not 2 mins later! Now! Sorry, I have to wait till my battery charges!"

Your fault for not charging the mouse when you got the many reminders of a low battery. And I'm sure your boss will wait 2 minutes, you're really pushing the boat out with your 'real world' scenario..

"Yes, it's even worse than the photos!"

Not in my opinion. It looks and feels quite nice.

"Yes, so you just puncture your groin while on the go! Great design!"

Did you even read what I wrote? Seemingly not.

I never got a reminder. I must have a dodgy battery. Same tech as the iPhone 6S. My boss isn't happen now!

Look online, lots of posts about how bad it looks. Do you have one by any chance?

I am on the go, I have an iPad and a pen. How else do I charge it. Damn it! I got punctured again!
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Do you seriously believe that Ive somehow wasn't involved in or leading the discussion/decision making of the X's design?
I suspect there are two design teams.

The really poor designs I mention were done by Design Team B (no Ive input).

The good designs were done by Design Team A (Ive has input).
 
I am on the go, I have an iPad and a pen. How else do I charge it. Damn it! I got punctured again!

Plug into the iPad.

You know, the only power source you have on you when travelling with an iPad. How would you charge it if it didn't have a lightning plug? Oh you wouldn't be able to. See, this is why it's a good design, not a bad one.

"Look online, lots of posts about how bad it looks."

Hashtag AppealToPopularity
 
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Actually, it doesn't zoom in the standard setting. If you look at the reference image I originally posted, the top one shows how 16:9 video (iphone and tv standard aspect ratio) looks when played regularly. The white area on the sides of the red rectangle (video) are the black areas you're talking about. And yes, they do blend in with the notch nicely, almost making the display look like a non "X" iPhone.

It's when you use the zoom feature in order to get the video to take up the entire screen (the middle image in my reference) where you ultimately end up losing roughly 21% of the video (areas cut off at top/bottom and notch).

No, the side bars are much smaller, something like this:
 

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What puzzles me is the (software) design choice Apple have made, to amplify the appearance of the notch, rather than disguise it.

For me, this is a far more attractive screen implementation:

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..but I know Apple disagree, and have actively advised developers not to design like this, but to preserve the notch appearance. Puzzling.

Amazing. With a simple black bar the X can look like just another Android phone. Bland, boring and forgettable.
 
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Plug into the iPad.

You know, the only power source you have on you when travelling with an iPad. How would you charge it if it didn't have a lightning plug? Oh you wouldn't be able to. See, this is why it's a good design, not a bad one.

"Look online, lots of posts about how bad it looks."

Hashtag AppealToPopularity

We'll have to agree to disagree!

One reason why it it's a bad design! The world is full of idiots! 1 idiot can foil years of R+D.
http://appleapple.top/american-apple-pencil-broke-while-charging-checking-it-for-strength-video/
 
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