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Apple will change one end of the cable at a time.. baby steps! Possibly the 2020 iPhone and iPad models will have USB-C.
However, there is big $ in the lightning cable so they probably will never get rid of lightning.
 
I guess Tim Cook finally ran out of his stockpile of 5W chargers!

You can see the correlation between leftover inventory parts and using up different combinations Tim decides on to cook up the next line of product upgrades down the line. Smart supply chain control is Tim’s forte but smart customers that know Tim’s game understand the value of patience in waiting for inventory to run out so he is forced to used next gen parts that give us more bang for buck for the exorbitant prices charged.

I will chill a bottle of nice Chardonnay waiting for the day to open it when even entry level iMacs come standard with SSD drives not as upgrade options.

Game on!
 
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The most important part of this new port and cable port is that it gets an update to the data transfer speeds to syncing photos,music,calendars,Notes and contacts With the MacBook Computers. For iPhones that cost over $1000 these current data transfer speeds are unacceptable from Apple. Especially where a company usually brags about performance speeds while it has one of the slowest performing data transfer speeds between iPhones and MacBook computers.
 
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News flash: Apple's iPhone refresh, due for release in September, is rumored to come with a 36-pin parallel printer port. Tim Cook explained, "We've had so many people complain because we removed these ports, and there is no Lightning to parallel adapter available, so we felt it was necessary to bring it back. We're also investigating an external floppy drive, and a 110 baud modem, to allow legacy accessories to be connected. Our stance on innovation is, we provide what the customer demands, whether we think they need it or not. Sorry, headphone jacks went the way of the dinosaur, er, iPad."
 
Switching iphones to USB-C would be tragic in a world full of USB-A charging ports, cables and accessories. I don’t want to have to replace a dozen Lightning cables and accessories when I don’t even own one USB-C device. The vast majority of Apple customers own Lightning and USB-A products. USB-C only applies to a small minority of Apple customers worldwide. When I finally upgrade my iPhone it will be to Qi charging which is available at far more locations than USB-C

Well clinging with Lightning means you have to deal with 3 kind of ports instead: USB-A, USB-C and Lightning and the combos in between. If you happen to buy any modern Macs, or iPad Pros , they will have USB-C. I assume more and more iPads are going to have USB-C, along with its brick. Are you not going to buy one someday? Yet iPhone still sticking with the old, proprietary standard. I'd rather deal only with USB-C and USB-A.

That's fragmentation at its best. Wireless charging is great, but again my iPad Pro doesn't have one. I only use wireless charging for quick top ups because for me it's too slow and rather finicky. Would rather plug cables whenever possible. And the cable situation that Apple has now, is terrible.
 
I don't like these fat oval new chargers like the one that came with my iPad Pro 11.
 
$30 for the charger and $20 more for the cable. Or $49.99 if bought together. Will not be included with any ios device. Just an educated guess.
 
Apple owns Lightning, and can sell more adapters.

The only reason the iPad Pro got a usb port is because selling an iPad with Lightning and attempting to call it a computer would be false advertising. iPhones are not computers, so it's just silly by Apple logic to bring it down to a regular standard that would make everyone else's lives easier
iPhones, or rather smartphones in general, are the ONLY computer hundreds of millions (billions?) of people in the world have.

When you can facebook/tweet/insta, email, text, watch Netflix, do your banking, pay your bills, FaceTime/Skype/WhatsApp your friends and relatives, read books, search the google machine, shop on Amazon or any other website and do hundreds/thousands of other things with it, guess what: it’s a computer. It doesn’t need USB-C—the iPhone will never use that fragile of a connector—and it doesn’t need a mouse either. Get with the times gramps lol.

iPhone, iPad or Mac, buy the best tool you can afford that does what you need it to do. Don’t be afraid of new technology, embrace it. It’s coming whether you like it or not.
 
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If this is the case, I would most definitely upgrade from my iPhone XS Max. Although I do have Jump! on Demand by T-Mobile, I was considering not upgrading this year but this would put that thought to rest.

Switching iphones to USB-C would be tragic in a world full of USB-A charging ports, cables and accessories. I don’t want to have to replace a dozen Lightning cables and accessories when I don’t even own one USB-C device. The vast majority of Apple customers own Lightning and USB-A products. USB-C only applies to a small minority of Apple customers worldwide. When I finally upgrade my iPhone it will be to Qi charging which is available at far more locations than USB-C

Yes, it will hurt at first, more for people and businesses who have wall adapters with integrated USB A ports, like cars that require it for CarPlay, but it could come with an adapter. It's time to move on and the transition needs to come sooner rather than later. Also, you would likely still be able to use your old chargers and keep living in the dark ages, if that will make you happy.
 
iPhones, or rather smartphones in general, are the ONLY computer hundreds of millions (billions?) of people in the world have.

When you can facebook/tweet/insta, email, text, watch Netflix, do your banking, pay your bills, FaceTime/Skype/WhatsApp your friends and relatives, read books, search the google machine, shop on Amazon or any other website and do hundreds/thousands of other things with it, guess what: it’s a computer. It doesn’t need USB-C—the iPhone will never use that fragile of a connector—and it doesn’t need a mouse either. Get with the times gramps lol.

iPhone, iPad or Mac, buy the best tool you can afford that does what you need it to do. Don’t be afraid of new technology, embrace it. It’s coming whether you like it or not.

Well iPad Pros use USB-C. It is as much as iOS device as iPhone does, probably needs charging just as much. Doesn't require a mouse either, although using it with a keyboard is ten times better. Does it mean iPad Pro is a lesser quality of Apple lineups?

Does it warrant the use of such fragile of a connector (as you claimed it to be)? iPad Pro is just as premium as the latest iPhones are, you know? It's not about which port is stronger in the long run, it's about compatibility and uniformity between Apple products. Right now I can buy iPad Pro and One Plus phones which uses the same port, I can charge it with the same cable, or plug in a USB-C accessories and they both will work just fine. It actually feels more uniform instead of me buying the new iPad Pro and iPhone XS? Don't you think that's ironic?

Get with the times actually means you shouldn't be afraid or upset if Lightning will be replaced by USB-C, eventually. Instead, you should urge Apple to complete the transition, ASAP.
 
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Switching iphones to USB-C would be tragic in a world full of USB-A charging ports, cables and accessories. I don’t want to have to replace a dozen Lightning cables and accessories when I don’t even own one USB-C device. The vast majority of Apple customers own Lightning and USB-A products. USB-C only applies to a small minority of Apple customers worldwide. When I finally upgrade my iPhone it will be to Qi charging which is available at far more locations than USB-C

USB-C is quickly becoming the global standard, and is already the standard for new non Apple devices. I haven't had one USB-C cable fail or break on me yet. I can't count how many times I replaced a Lightning cable. Lightning cable is simply inferior to USB-C and Apple needs to get rid of it.
 
If this is the case, I would most definitely upgrade from my iPhone XS Max. Although I do have Jump! on Demand by T-Mobile, I was considering not upgrading this year but this would put that thought to rest.



Yes, it will hurt at first, more for people and businesses who have wall adapters with integrated USB A ports, like cars that require it for CarPlay, but it could come with an adapter. It's time to move on and the transition needs to come sooner rather than later. Also, you would likely still be able to use your old chargers and keep living in the dark ages, if that will make you happy.

Agreed!! No need to prolong unnecessary pains, a quick kill would be best in this situation. The transition from 30 pin to Lightning was a great example!! No fuss, no muss just a quick shot in the head, started with iPhone 5, iPad 4th gen and then everything else, all was done in less than 12 months.

Now? Apple is clinging into the old standard, while embracing the new one, very very slowly. It is painful and confusing in the long term. I have to deal with 3 kind of ports, and that comes from products that comes from ONE company!!
 
Well iPad Pros use USB-C. It is as much as iOS device as iPhone does, probably needs charging just as much. Doesn't require a mouse either, although using it with a keyboard is ten times better. Does it mean iPad Pro is a lesser quality of Apple lineups?

Does it warrant a use of such fragile of a connector (as you claimed it to be?). iPad Pro isn't exactly cheap , you know? It's not about which port is stronger in the long run, it's about compatibility and uniformity between Apple products. Right now I can buy iPad Pro and One Plus phones which uses the same port, I can charge it with the same cable, or plug in a USB-C headphones and they both will work just fine. It actually feels more uniform instead of me buying the new iPad Pro and iPhone XS? Isn't that ironic?

Get with the times actually means you shouldn't be afraid or upset if Lightning will be replaced by USB-C, eventually.
iPad Pro has reasons to switch to USB-C; 10 Gbps bandwidth allows several devices to be connected. For instance you can use a hub and have Gigabit Ethernet, a 4K/5K display, a USB hard disk, a USB keyboard, a camera, and a SD card reader. That type of requirement is uncommon and it’s firmly in the realm of iPad Pro, not even less expensive iPads—and certainly not iPhone.

There are well over a billion lightning iOS devices, with billions more chargers and cables currently in use, and there’s no reason to obsolete them.
 
iPad Pro has reasons to switch to USB-C; 10 Gbps bandwidth allows several devices to be connected. For instance you can use a hub and have Gigabit Ethernet, a 4K/5K display, a USB hard disk, a USB keyboard, a camera, and a SD card reader. That type of requirement is uncommon and it’s firmly in the realm of iPad Pro, not even less expensive iPads—and certainly not iPhone.

There are well over a billion lightning iOS devices, with billions more chargers and cables currently in use, and there’s no reason to obsolete them.

And yet, newer and faster chips will allow future iPhones to have those specs. All in a tiny package that fits in your pocket instead of huge iPads. You know that right? And again, having USB-C doesn't warrant the device to be capable of gigabit LAN or 4K output or anything.

Having the same port is the key. Apple is all about control and seamless integration. This is not the integration I have in mind, this is fragmentation.

Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about USB-C exactly? At one point you said it is a bad connector (more fragile and worn out faster), but then you claim it to have a higher specification to support all the features that Lightning couldn't have.

Yes you are correct, I probably wouldn't care if my iPhone could or should do 4K video, or USB accessories. But again, I'd rather my iPhone and iPad Pro to share the same connection.
 
I bought that 18w USB C charger and the Apple 2 meter USB C to Lightning cable for my iPhone XS. I can't tell if it's fast charging. I thought it was supposed to chime twice when you plugged in a fast charger. No indication like that. Does not seem to charge substantially faster than the 12w charger that came with my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9. I am a little irked that the 12w charger cannot keep my iPad from gradually draining the batteries when I'm watching videos, it can't charge fast enough to keep up with the power drain. But the 18w charger can keep up (barely).

My understanding is that there are three types of charging
1. 5w standard "slow" charging
2. 16w and under, "fastER charging" but not actually Fast Charging which requires USB C power-capable cables.
3 18w and up, Fast Charging.
At some point, the charger can provide more power than the iPhone or iPad can accept, even through fast charging. I'm not sure what the max power is, for these devices. I considered getting a 60w USB C charger just to see, but this is already too expensive for a marginal upgrade.

Now don't get me started on Qi "fast charging."
 
That means this fall will be another ******** non-update (same case, same board, same lightning). All my devices are USB-C now (camera, wireless charger, iPad Pro, Macbook Pro). The only stupid Lightning cables I carry around are for the iPhone. I sure won't upgrade if they keep that alive for nothing.
 
And yet, newer and faster chips will allow future iPhones to have those specs. All in a tiny package that fits in your pocket instead of huge iPads. You know that right? And again, having USB-C doesn't warrant the device to be capable of gigabit LAN or 4K output or anything.

Having the same port is the key. Apple is all about control and seamless integration. This is not the integration I have in mind, this is fragmentation.

Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about USB-C exactly? At one point you said it is a bad connector (more fragile and worn out faster), but then you claim it to have a higher specification to support all the features that Lightning couldn't have.

Yes you are correct, I probably wouldn't care if my iPhone could or should do 4K video, or USB accessories. But again, I'd rather my iPhone and iPad Pro to share the same connection.
I thought my opinion was pretty clear: there’s a good reason to move to USB-C on iPad Pro (even though the connector is not as robust as Lightning) while there is no reason at all for iPhone to switch to it. iPhone already supports fast charging with USB-PD capability using a USB-C charger. (That’s what this article is about.)

There is no integration or fragmentation issue, no one is left stranded since there is a USB-C to Lightning cable. The relatively few customers who have a 3rd gen iPad Pro or a USB-C MB/MBP can afford to buy a cable. The other billion iOS users are better off if Apple retains Lightning.
 
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I thought my opinion was pretty clear: there’s a good reason to move to USB-C on iPad Pro (even though the connector is not as robust as Lightning) while there is no reason at all for iPhone to switch to it. iPhone already supports fast charging with USB-PD capability using a USB-C charger. (That’s what this article is about.)

There is no integration or fragmentation issue, no one is left stranded since there is a USB-C to Lightning cable. The relatively few customers who have a 3rd gen iPad Pro or a USB-C MB/MBP can afford to buy a cable. The other billion iOS users are better off if Apple retains Lightning.

Well everyone can stick with their own opinion. I stand by mine, that Apple should do the transition to USB-C as quick as possible. iPhone is the best place to start, just like the iPhone 5 introduced the Lightning port. In my opinion, the next iPhone should also make USB-C official.

I thought back in 2012, billions of Apple users also own a bunch of 30 pin cables laying around the house? Didn't stop Apple to make the switch, I see no reason to do the same now? It's not the end of the world, because Lightning would still work with older devices. And you do know Apple still sells the 30-pin until today, right? So it's not really a sudden death, just a stop gap that Apple should put a distinct line in between.

This may sound silly to you, but to me who happens to travel quite often, and own the new Macbook Air, with 11" iPad Pro and iPhone 8+ , then maybe you'll understand. Everything else is on USB-C except for this tiny little iPhone that requires one specific cable to charge.
 
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Well everyone can stick with their own opinion. I stand by mine, that Apple should do the transition to USB-C as quick as possible. iPhone is the best place to start, just like the iPhone 5 introduced the Lightning port. In my opinion, the next iPhone should also make USB-C official.

I thought back in 2012, billions of Apple users also own a bunch of 30 pin cables laying around the house? Didn't stop Apple to make the switch, I see no reason to do the same now? It's not the end of the world, because Lightning would still work with older devices. And you do know Apple still sells the 30-pin until today, right? So it's not really a sudden death, just a stop gap that Apple should put a distinct line in between.

This may sound silly to you, but to me who happens to travel quite often, and own the new Macbook Air, with 11" iPad Pro and iPhone 8+ , then maybe you'll understand. Everything else is on USB-C except for this tiny little iPhone that requires one specific cable to charge.

I think Apple should continue to stick with lightning on iPhones to test how much patience people have with their "seamless integration" when using wires. Perhaps this is one gigantic social experiment by behavioral scientists to see how far puppet masters can bend their puppets.

Aside, I'm all for uniformity, but we'll see what happens. I personally think Apple can continue to not use USB-C here for the iPhone. The 30 pin connector was proprietary, so they switched from one proprietary connector to another. I don't see why they would switch to something that was more ubiquitous since it would cause them to lose some residuals from connector sales.
 
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